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at 18 Jan 2006: 23:24

i think this is kinda weird.. when it comes to furries im bi(if anything on the gay side), but in reality im not the least bit attracted to guys. cock and balls turn me on though, just not the guy attached to them ;p

am i alone here?

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at 19 Jan 2006: 00:48

Wasn't there a thread on this earlier?
Longstoryshort, no you ain't gay, because they don't exist, but if they do someday exist and you still have the urges you'd be bi. But for now, no, not bi. You ever visit the 4chan link on the main page? Liking cock&balls means you're just like, 90% straight instead of 100. They got lots of d-girls and effeminate guys in the d board. Leans more towards girls though, because they're a tad insecure about that appreciation. ;p (seriously, call them on it and it'll become a shootin' war.I wasn't even trolling just asking like you did, and holy wow!)

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at 19 Jan 2006: 02:16

Your early sexual experiences are with your own cock.  You will thus always like cock.  It doesn't mean you like other guys.  But you might try getting your cock sucked by a guy, just for fun.  It's interesting and different.  You will come, and that may even surprise you, but it shouldn't.

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at 19 Jan 2006: 22:34

I'm generally attracked to herms, furry or otherwise, plus good looking trannies, despite being rather rare.  There's a tiny number of male furry pics I find attractive, and if I'm really horny I might even be gay for Bridget.

What does that mean?  I'm a 1 on the McKinsey scale (from 0 to 6), which means slightly bisexual.

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at 19 Jan 2006: 22:38

>>2
Reminds me of the drama on anime boards. Liking lolicon doesn’t make you a pedophile, or that’s what they say.

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Oreo at 20 Jan 2006: 00:51

Yeah, i agree. Your preference of material doesn't really decide your sexuality, as said before, if you like lolicon or herms, it doesn't nessacerly mean your going to go screw a transexual or start being a pedophile.

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me at 19 Jan 2006: 18:08

I'm just like the OP but I like any kind of butthole, too.. male, femme, alien, lol.  In furriness, of course.  Oh, I enjoy my own, too.  Very much.

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at 19 Jan 2006: 23:36

>>5

Why did you have to bring this up...

I'm only really into gay stuff, there are a few exceptions, that's with drawings. In real life, I'm still pretty bisexual, leaning towards gay. I say that because I'm not sexually attracted to any guy, but there are also very few women that I find attractive, and those have to meet very strict things for me to find them attractive. I also happen to enjoy cub art and am not a pedophile....

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at 20 Jan 2006: 01:19

i have similar experiences ... i wouldn't do a guy in real life, but a lot of the male furry art i like, and if those creatures existed in real life, i would probably do something with them.  which then makes me think about experimenting with costumes and such ...

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Wookiee at 21 Jan 2006: 00:13

For me, it's all about fantasy vs reality. I have heard a lot of strait guys say things about them wishing they could suck their own cock and such yet the thought of being with another guy would make them sick.  I think guys have some form of attraction to their own sex even if it is for their 'own' sex.  Furry Fantasy is an outlet for these males to live out those desires.

I like furry butts and have drawn a few furry rimming pics yet I would never do that with a RL person. Fantasy is fantasy and everything is perfect, no smells or emotional baggage or inhibitions. It's just me and my inner conscience experimenting in sexual activities.

Why fantasize about firries then and not about other people and animals?  People and animals are real.  Each have their "real" problems and issues, and one is illegal in most countries and states.  Furries are made up of some of the best qualities of both beings and in most cases none of the problems of either.  They are fantasy and therefore we are no longer scared off by sexual preasures or even the fear of being cought. 

My 2 cents

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at 21 Jan 2006: 00:22

>>10
I love you. <3

... Oh and, I love your art, too.

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at 21 Jan 2006: 00:35

>>10
Only in art my friend, only in art, LOL.
'real' furries are...ehhh, i'll stick to hanging with my cats thanks. eesh. XD

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Wookiee at 21 Jan 2006: 09:38

>>12
I should have been more clear.  I was refering to 'Furries' as the anthropomorphic animal beings in our fantasy (fueled by drawings or writings) and not the people that make up the fandom. :)

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Skoll at 21 Jan 2006: 09:41

How >>10 described, it is just about sexual (mostly unrealisable) fantasies without any real acquisition.
But what I just want to know is, where do this borderlines lie (generally)?
I think the borders between hetero-, bi- and homosexuality are very fluent and very subjective depending on eduacation, social circumstances or personal experiences. Therefore you shouldn't worry about this too much, cause you have to define for yourself, in what you are into.

I like male furry art, but I'm far-off calling me myself bi or homo, cause in my opinion bi- or homosexuality begins, when there is a willingness to start a emotional relationship with a guy beyond 'normal' friendship. And that is something I'm not into and if someone alleges something different, I don't care, because you should never betray yourself, as long as you know, what you want.
But I can understand, why some people are confused, because I think everybody has to deal with this time of personal 'insecurity' and you have to make experiences yourself. 

And just don't pigeonhole yourself too early!

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Skol at 21 Jan 2006: 09:47

>>13
'lol' Why do I have the parodies of Shawn Keller in my mind now?

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at 21 Jan 2006: 13:54

>>14
Yes, it's very important to do some self-examination (the soul searching kind...) before jumping to conclusions.

For a short while, I thought I was gay or... something.  This came about because I found out that I liked herm hentai pics, and this was before I got into furry art.  After a few weeks of thinking about it, by comparing feelings about guys and girls in my head, I came to the conclusion that I'm not gay, or even borderline bi.

I found that my fantasy world of sex didn't carry over to the real world.  And not only didn't it carry over, I highly doubt that it could... unless of course I went psycho or something lol. Heck, most of the 'kinky' pics that I liked would look weird. if not disturbing, in real life.  That world was made for one thing, and because of that suspension of disbelief was high and realistic thoughts were low, for purposes of enjoyment of course lol.  Just because a pic was stupidly obscene or impossible didn't detract from the idea of what it was really meant for.

When I was finished with this 'soul searching,' I noticed I was a bit more secure about my preferences.  Since then, weird thoughts or 'mistaken' attractions never really bothered me as badly as they used to.  Sure I admit that there are times, all thou rare, that I find a male only pic 'hot.'  Most of the time, it's because I didn't recognize right a way that they were highly effeminize drawings >.< (“Wait, there's no boobs on her, and no... DUH! *sigh* and it looked so good too :/”).

However, I think it's odd that just recently found an interest in male furry tentacle pics.  Maybe it's because I'm empathizing for them on a cretin level lol.  But there are rarely any good ones I like!  Most are drawn kinda badly or they have something about them that turns me off.  LOL, like I said... weird...

>>4
btw, were on the net is that scale at?  I did a Google search and got some 1-12 business scale thing.

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at 21 Jan 2006: 14:11

If bisexuality is cyclical (most bisexuals will tell you their preferences wax and wane) then it's probable that all sexuality is cyclical, or cresting, to some degree.  I would suggest not pigeonholing yourself, ever.

Some people even find that they are not attracted to anyone of a particular sex, except this one person, whom they feel close to in a way that transcends gender.  e.g. you may not be gay or bi, but one day you fall in love with Bob and have many cozy evenings in front of the fireplace and many satisfying buttsecksings beneath the sheets.

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at 21 Jan 2006: 14:21

>>16
It's the "Kinsey scale" not the "McKinsey scale".  I don't know if there's a reliable way on the net to test yourself though.  You may just find it useful to look at the scale and place yourself on it subjectively.

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at 21 Jan 2006: 19:20

So if your into /m/ and other furries and scalies and dragons or whatever on the male side yet in reality you are nothing close to homosexual does that make you bi? or still straight?

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Fatal_glory_128 at 22 Jan 2006: 00:03

>>19
In the end, It doesn't affect what you're defined as at all.  You could be gay, you could be straight, or you could be bi, but until you find out in real life, you'll never really know.

What we're talking about here is how all you're fantasies and suspended disbeliefs define you.  Fantasy almost never transitions into the real world.  An example being tv shows or movies.  You suspend disbelief in order to become part of this "fatasy world", but once the movie is over, and disregarding the morals, how has it affected you?  Very little.

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at 22 Jan 2006: 00:16

that said, it's a nice noncommittal experiment to get your dick sucked by a guy once just to try it

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at 22 Jan 2006: 12:01

If I recall, the Kinsey scale has no "test" to take, it IS a completely sunjective thing, "Where do YOU feel you lay on here?"

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ROYGBIV at 22 Jan 2006: 12:30

Cold hard slate. Sex is hardwired into our functions. It is IMPOSSIBLE to resist it once someone experiences the power of it. Males have a more open range when turned on, even if some wouldn't admit it. Yeah they'd get sucked by another guy, maybe even more... Being turned on, makes all those petty understatements of "I will only do girls." Go away. The reason why is because of estrogen. When a guy gets turned on, estrogren begins to function in the brain. Making the guy more ceceptible to emotion, the territory aggressiveness stops for a moment. It's all about chemical function now. Gotta let loose.. gotta fire. That is all that goes through his mind.

The irony of furry is it has nothing to do with furry whatsoever. It is all self image of what someone rather be. No test is gonna prove anything. Test are there to prove yourself, make you have more confidence about yourself for the time being.
 

 Experience with masturbation, sex.. or whatever your into at that puberty stage determine your final makeout. It is a hardwire and will not go away so easily. Being gay starts at this stage of live, so do your final stages of yourself. 
  It is not a coincidence guys most men will be attracted to male anatomy, there is a same link of mental state comparing ourselves with it. Wanting to have a big wang that shoots out loads of seed. That is how it goes in the male mind. Somethings never change. Probabally best to accept it and turn the page. It is there now. How far will you go with it. Not much you can do except masturbate or have sex. Sex-addicts aren't quite a fashion statement either.


 


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at 15 Feb 2006: 18:10

*blinks repeatedly*

We're talking about this on a board where the nekid people have tails, fangs and fur?

Sage for absurdity.

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at 20 Jun 2006: 19:06

(Maybe a little sidetracked .. or then not !)

After reading for a while these threads(for the first time) furry people seem seem to be smarter and think things more thoroughly than "average" people.

Only the "stereotypes" and those that are labelled as bad, ugly and/or disgusting do strike the eye (people remember bad things way better than the good ones)

And ehh. Why do everyone want to put people into categories like straight, bi or gay? If you happen to like whoever, what gender ever, it's not more weirder than "normal" man/woman attraction.. At least it shouldn't be (in a perfect world).. Hmm.. What made such words to be linked with such negative feelings in people :(

(I have vague memory that someone somewhere said that in ancient greek sex with women was done merely for reproduction - and one that hadn't man/man relationships for joy was weird. Correction anyone if I'm wrong?)

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Sezza at 20 Jun 2006: 21:34

Well, RL I'm a lesbian, but in terms of furs I find some herms and a few males really attractive too. I'm fur-straight for Ashley the horse. =P

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straydog#3pCIhha3Cw at 20 Jun 2006: 23:06

>>27

I'd say having a 'thing' for Ashley the horse doesn't really make you fur-straight, considering Ashley is very feminine, cross-dresses, appears to be [exclusively] a bottom, and could, in some way, pass as being transgendered.

...that'd be like me saying I'm fur-straight for [insert uber masculine lesbian fur character here].

As for the discussion... I find labeling yourself as gay, straight, bi, whatever, is very superficial and placing far too much emphasis on one's genitalia. Someone's sex organs do not make them. If you fall in love with someone, and they suddenly decided to get a sex change, or lose their genitalia in war, or some other BS like that, would you stop loving them as a result?

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straydog#3pCIhha3Cw at 20 Jun 2006: 23:08

>>27

I'd say having a 'thing' for Ashley the horse doesn't really make you fur-straight, considering Ashley is very feminine, cross-dresses, appears to be [exclusively] a bottom, and could, in some way, pass as being transgendered.

...that'd be like me saying I'm fur-straight for [insert uber masculine lesbian fur character here].

As for the discussion... I find labeling yourself as gay, straight, bi, whatever, is very superficial and placing far too much emphasis on one's genitalia. Someone's sex organs do not make them. If you fall in love with someone, and they suddenly decided to get a sex change, or lose their genitalia in war, or some other BS like that, would you stop loving them as a result?

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straydog#3pCIhha3Cw at 20 Jun 2006: 23:08

>>27

I'd say having a 'thing' for Ashley the horse doesn't really make you fur-straight, considering Ashley is very feminine, cross-dresses, appears to be [exclusively] a bottom, and could, in some way, pass as being transgendered.

...that'd be like me saying I'm fur-straight for [insert uber masculine lesbian fur character here].

As for the discussion... I find labeling yourself as gay, straight, bi, whatever, is very superficial and placing far too much emphasis on one's genitalia. Someone's sex organs do not make them. If you fall in love with someone, and they suddenly decided to get a sex change, or lose their genitalia in war, or some other BS like that, would you stop loving them as a result?

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at 20 Jun 2006: 23:30

I'm straight IRL and straight in furry fantasy. Sorry for being boring.

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at 20 Jun 2006: 23:47

I'm totally bisexual both in real life and on the net. In real life if I find someone of my same sex attractive, I'll gladly make a comment to my friends, but unless I know the person I'd enver tell him that I think so. I'm also totally secure with my sexuality and make all sorts of jokes that make my friends uncomfortable to say the least, most people that meet me for the first time would say I was 100% gay until I told them otherwise.

For furries, I find everything attractive if it grabs me. I like M/M, M/F, and F/F. I really don't have any feelings towards herms, dickgirls, macro, micro, etc, infact I find them rather digusting. I do tend to go mostly gay in my preferences, though, because for some reason I find the concept of 2 males being together a lot cuter than a male and a female or two females.

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Dahgrow at 20 Jun 2006: 23:47

See, this is a good conversation. This is something that has bugged me as well. I am in a really confusing point in my life on sexuality... I mean, when it comes to furries, I'm pretty much gay, but in real life, well, I really don't know. It is all awfully confusing right now, it's been a bad... well, a bad entire year the sexual confusion sense. Funny, because I came here to see the plausibility of making a topic like this, and it was the top one. Wierd.

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chao16 at 21 Jun 2006: 13:09

I'm Bi curious in RL and Bi-Furry.

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Guan at 21 Jun 2006: 13:39

>>31 It's okay; I'm most of the time 70/30 gay/straight in both aspects, so I can be boring too.  YAY!!  I mean, blah.  v..v

Of course, this is just going by Western standards and categories of sexuality, which are pretty amusing inventions if you ask me.  I'd have to agree with all three of straydog's posts up there.  ;}

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Dahgrow at 21 Jun 2006: 13:48

People always refer to being straight as "boring"... I wouldn't nescesarilly say it is inherently more boring than any other sexuality. I mean, I guess there is the whole gay stereotype thing, but I honestly can't stand it and can say that that isn't me. Homosexuality=turned on by the same sex. I don't believe that because I like men like a girl would means I should start acting like a girl to. Although I am very indiviualist, so maybe that's just me...

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Guan at 21 Jun 2006: 14:04

>>36 Well, the whole "act like a girl" thing is another fun way of the West (if not the world) in perpetuating gender stereotyping.  Where do you think the feminist movements came from?

But getting back to how homosexuals should behave...isn't that as moot as asking how left-handed people should behave?  From what I see, one of the higher faults of at least this society is to put identity as something to judge one's behavior and status upon rather then their accomplishments.  For some reason, stereotypes happen no matter what society or subculture you belong to, especially in communities that put emphasis on identity.  Like the idea that all hairy gay men must be massive butch bears into leather and bondage gear, or in our community that all foxes are hyperactive sluts willing to raise their tails for anything and anyone.  This is not to say that accomplishment-based cultures are much better: The music industry is a HUGE example of this.  But that's enough topic off-roading for now.  ;}

Frankly, I think sexuality is going to need a major overhaul in definition and explanation before any significant change in thought will occur.  I'd offer a pseudo-Marxist solution, but I'd rather not get buried alive today, thanks.  o..o

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at 21 Jun 2006: 16:04

Stereotypes aren't really just pulled out of nowhere 'for some reason.' They exist because people notice common threads and consistencies between people of certain groups. The only point where sterotypes become >wrong< is when someone applies them to the ENTIRE group without being open to the notion that members of that group CAN and DO deviate from the stereotypes.

For example, I do know a few hairy gay men who are normal/average or even big fat sissies. But MOST of the hairy gay men I've ever met have managed to fall somewhere in the general Bear stereotypes.

And most foxes ARE hyperactive sluts willing to raise tail for anyone ;P

The main point is whether someone is saying "ALL x are y" or just "a great deal of x are y." Stereotypes aren't true by default for any member of a group, but that also doesn't mean that they're false by default either. I have known people who will deny applying a sterotype even when it is valid JUST because it is a stereotype.

Sexuality stereotypes are weird though. In my experience, people seem more able to handle a stereotypical 'fag' than a perfectly 'normal' seeming person who turns out to be homosexual (Will & Grace homos vs. Brokeback Mountain cowboys). As stupid as it sounds, I've heard some people feel that 'straight-acting' gays are like, trying to 'sneak past them' or something while the flamers are advertising it openly 'like they should' so they can be avoided easily, or at least be on-gaurd against them trying to subtly make them gay. Silly insecure straight people.

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at 21 Jun 2006: 16:58

Personally, I've always found it quite hot to watch lesbians.  I also deeply appreciate the female form.  It can turn me on, too.

And somehow, that's where it stops.  I don't generally want to do anything with my own sex and if I try, I'm uncomfortable.

I'm thoroughly bisexual if you judge by my preferences as regards furs.  I'm thoroughly straight if you judge by my preferences as far as actually doing something.

I've tried being bisexual and still usually call myself that...  but somehow, it just isn't fun in practice.  o.o;

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Bizzle at 21 Jun 2006: 17:44

Straight in porn, straight in life.  I don't even usually like to see a dick in my porn.  That must be unhealthy for some reason.

>>21  Remember George Carlin's bit from Jay and Silent Bob?  That just reminded me of that.  Hell, this whole thread reminds me of that exchange.

>>38  That's an excellent point about stereotypes that a lot of folks tend to forget.

Now I can't speak for all, or probably even most, straight folks, but I tend to be more at ease around the less flamboyant homosexual dudes.  Maybe it's just my perception, but they seem to have more common interests, like they can appreciate an old-school muscle car, they follow sports, and stuff like that.  I also don't feel so wierd swearing around them, as I am oft want to do. 

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