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There's a difference between having sex with everybody you meet and having sex with a close friend that you trust.  As long as you're not stupid, STDs are a non-issue.

Actually, funny you mention it... (Keep this in mind this is a one-time post for me) The same thing happened the other day with a close friend of mine whom i've known for well over 4 years... i told him that I actually had the hots for him for awhile and wanted to experiment with another guy.

>>5

god... do we really need to know what we you do in your bedroom?

If you can't have sex with your friends, who's left?  Strangers you just met but want to date in case you might actually get to like them?  :P

No, I'd just be less worried. =) I want my first to be special. =)

>>11
Add: c) social pressure to be sexually active.

>>13

until you realize she's pregnant.

>>10 It can be special with a friend. Sex is only as special as you choose it to be.

Oh, I should add, if you think waiting will make your first time better, it won't. Like any physical activity, you're going to suck ass at it the first time you try it.

Kind of like the first time I ever played golf. I got a 14 on a par 5 hole. Very sad. Lots of mistakes. And just like golf, sex is about more than putting something in a hole.

Raven:Thank you for the reasurance.
16:......You'd be right, BUT i'd still rather wait.
17:I'm a Virgin and I know there real. But most likely you were being funny.

I've had sex or at least sexual relations with a few of my best female friends, and it never became a troublesome issue.  They were all Air Force girls, though, so I don't really know how it would work out in the real world.  As long as the participants are both in it just for fun, it will probably be alright.

As for STDs, there's no reason to be afraid of them.  Remember to carry a condom and a little common sense, and sex is safer than driving on the interstate.

Now, this is just my personal opinion, but the whole "saving yourself" notion is complete bunk.  Nobody's virgin experience is a particularly good one for the virgin or their partner.  Furthermore, every girl likes doing things a different way, so if you get some experience you will gain a broader knowledge of how to please a woman.  You'd be doing your future one-and-only a favor by breaking yourself in earlier.  Now I could get onto the topic of monogamy here, but I think I'll save that for a future rant.

I have an std, it's not a huge deal.  I was intentionally infected by one of the few monogamous relationships i've had (as opposed to one night stand i mean, i'm always monagamous).  So don't think that anything will keep you completely immune from stds even marriage (unless she saved herself too).  Not much is different just every 6 months or so i gotta go 2 weeks without sex.  Plus girls really admire you when you tell them about it BEFORE you sleep with them, never been turned down in that regard.  I've been around the block and had a lot of fun/sex i wouldn't trade it to be clean at all.  Even condoms don't protect against all stds

>>19 >>20

This kind of logic only works when both people are only being selfish and wanting to get off for their own enjoyment. If you have sex because you're in love (which, by the way, is why people get married in the first place), it doesn't matter how "flawless" the activity is the first time or any time.

Besides, believe me.. there is something called "too much of a 'good thing.'" Some people can't handle the kind of intensity you describe. Everyone is different, so leave the guy alone and let him make his own decisions. He wasn't asking to be persuaded to change his own views, he was asking other people why they do what they do.

>>25

I was making a point. Many reasons may be BS, but I think people should be honest about why they make a decision. Making up false reasoning with faulty logic just doesn't cut it. It's also skirting around the issue of responsibility. Then again, people often lie to themselves as often as they do to other people.

But don't listen to me. My words are merely ramblings of an old man with backward opinions from a time long past, when a person's character mattered much more than what they could get away with.

god damn, i swear some of you just like to hear yourselves talk (or.. type).

saving yourself for marriage is retarded IMO. dont go around fucking any random person, but you should be able to trust who youre fucking enough for them to tell you if they have any fucking stds.

long story short, fuck buddies are the best. think about it. its a hot friend who you can fucked/be fucked by whenever you want, but not have to worry about relationship bullshit.

>>28 There is a more polite way of making one's point than insulting and then swearing at your audience.

>>30

meh, i dont come here for the long and pointless debates that go one here all the time anyway. and the truth is a lot of you disturb and irritate me.

oh well, back to the furry porn.

>>22  Herpes?  That's a bitch.  You don't even need to have sex to get that, either.  It's catchy like pink-eye.

>>24  "This kind of logic only works when both people are only being selfish and wanting to get off for their own enjoyment."

Yes, it's recreational sex.  I would hardly call it selfish, though.  It's mutually beneficial, and if a partner doesn't feel like giving then you don't have to go back.  Personally, I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't want to give.  If you don't it's as boring as masturbation.

>>27  Dude, that show kicks ass.

>>30  It amazes me that people who frequent a website featuring furry porno can be offended by naughty words.

>>31  Good.  If you want to pursue abstinence, do it for yourself.  You don't need peer-pressure, religion, or religious peer-pressure to steer you down the path.

>>1
Good for you.  I share similar sentiments (and I've saved myself, too, and not for lack of opportunities).

Now, STDs aside, what do the rest of you do if your "sex friend" finds herself to be pregnant?  (And I do so abhor abortion, because I believe life begins at conception.  I'm not looking to start a debate on the subject or try to convince any of you; that's just my belief so you know where I'm coming from.)

>>36 I concur with >>37. If you're both clean (and get tested if not *absolutely* certain), there are a variety of pills that are equally effective to a condom, if you'd rather not use one.

>>29

I never said I was an old man. I said that's where my words come from. Read carefully.

As for marriage, I still have to disagree with you. Nowadays, people mostly get married because of love. We aren't living in the Victorian erra anymore. But ideal love? Perfect love? That's living in a fantasy world. Some people can achieve this, but they have to make their mind up about it. The reason the divoce rate is high is because people have no intention of sticking with someone through the trouble spots. To the majority of people, love is transitory. That doesn't mean they get married for other reasons, it just means they decide to stop loving when things turn sour.

For eveyone else with the pregnancy thing:

I get the impression that you do not understand how a woman's body works in conjunction with birth control. No form of birth control is 100% effective. No matter what precautions you take, there is always a chance that it won't work. Many of them have a time when they are completely ineffective, too. Condoms might be something you can use all the time, but if not used properly or if an accident occurs (read: KABOOM), you're pretty much screwed (figuratively and literally).

Keep in mind, I am not saying you should or should not stay a virgin. Lord knows I didn't. But like I said, if you're not going to, at least take some responsibility for your decisions, be honest to yourself about it, and be aware of the possible consequences. Because no matter how safe you are, you are never completely safe.