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1 Report	Luminoth at 18 Dec 2006: 20:37 What do you think is the best art program? Me I usually stick with Microsoft Paint though I can't find better(I'm on a budget).
2 Report	itoril#e0pMofP/AM at 18 Dec 2006: 21:58 The shareware version of Graphics Gale is excellent. http://www.humanbalance.net/gale/us/ Most of the features that are in the full version you can get for free, and it has no 30 day countdown.
3 Report	Havoc at 19 Dec 2006: 00:26 >>1 I use Photoshop 7. That's pretty much the best version. Subsequent versions were pretty pointless.
4 Report	Negative Ion at 19 Dec 2006: 01:19 Corel Painter. Hands down. Or if you want to emulate real life tools (paint, pencil, marker, etc) You want to go for Artrage 2 although I find that a bit complicated for simple colouring. It's still great to experiment with.
5 Report	at 19 Dec 2006: 07:14 >>3 photoshop cs/cs2 have very nice tools for photo manipulation. i would never go back to 7. but from an illustrator/financial point of view, i can sort of see your point.
6 Report	HexicDASH#4LtKWtcpsI at 19 Dec 2006: 09:04 I have become keen to openCanvas4 Plus over the past few months, personally.
7 Report	at 19 Dec 2006: 10:38 Paint Shop Pro 6/7 is good for older Computer. (really fast, slim an has all the general effects) And GIMP is feeware and really excellent, only its a bit wierd to handle.
8 Report	Luminoth at 19 Dec 2006: 18:46 Well^^^^ my computer is like 4yrs old. Yeh, so sue me, but I don't really have photo scanner I try to draw them on Paint directly. Its really hard. How do you get the art to look so real like Karabiners and Furball's?
9 Report	Havoc at 19 Dec 2006: 21:18 >>8 Karabiner, Furball, and all the other great artists use Photoshop and the like to get their art looking that good. If you want to draw art that well, you either need Photoshop and an ungodly steady hand, or you need Photoshop (or GIMP, OC, or Artrage) and a drawing tablet for drawing directly on the computer, or a scanner. It's extremely hard to make good art using Paint and a mouse.
10 Report	shadow1w2 at 20 Dec 2006: 01:50 The G.I.M.P. Is a great opensource Adobe photoshop alternitive. It has some quirks though and doenst like simple lines being made, but with some time it can be a good powerfull tool. I think they need to work on making it a bit more refined though, it feels like an old version of photoshop. Still, its pretty damn good for free :3 Oh and opencanvas, the older versions. They can go online for multiplayer art drawing! Total awsomeness.
11 Report	ClanTaker at 20 Dec 2006: 02:31 I use painter IX.5 for coloring/painting, Sketchbook Pro 2 for drawing, and manga studio and illustrator for inking. If you're interested in digital drawing and color/painting, you should get a wacom tablet. With it will come photoshop elements and corel painter essentials. Both programs will easy serve your need and if you want to buy the big versions of the programs the lighter versions will give you a good idea of which program best suits your working style.
12 Report	auric at 20 Dec 2006: 05:19 Imo it's not a matter of what program you use, what's the best one and so forth, only thing that matters is that you know how to use that prog to get what you want. That being said, I use gimp. Just because it's pretty much the only alternative for linux. Pain to learn but still really powerful. You can use it to emulate oils, pencil, watercolor, airbrush and probably more but you have to work with it and get to know what kind of settings create what kind of effect. If you just want to use traditional medias asap then go for Corel Painter, it has separate tools for oils, pencils etc. In comparison in the gimp or photoshop you select the brush size and paint tool and adjust it's parameters to emulate paints or pencils etc. Also note that you probably _really_ do want to get a tablet. Tho, monty/poju said in some interview that he/she uses just mouse... soo.. yeah o_o Whatever works I guess :)
13 Report	Sylern at 20 Dec 2006: 20:37 The main thing that matter, in my opinion, when it comes to programs is simply how comfortable you are with the tools available. I personally can't stand to use photoshop..I've tried it. G.I.M.P. I've used some but not enough to get used to. My main thing to toy around with is PaintShop Pro 7, wonderful little program..has alot of abilities photoshop has...it misses some..but has some things only it can do as well. I've found it to be an excelent program for my needs..which really center more on alterations of pictures..or doing more impressionistic landscapes if I actually draw (horrible with figure art). I find it enjoyable..and it allows me to do alot of things useful to me.
14 Report	at 21 Dec 2006: 10:40 Anything you feel good working with.
15 Report	Hellf[i]re at 22 Dec 2006: 16:16 >>10 "doesn't like simple lines being made" Define "simple lines"? I've never had a single problem. If you know photoshop well, and want to try GiMP, you might try: http://plasticbugs.com/?page_id=294 / http://www.gimpshop.net/ Gimpshop is a hack of Gimp for photoshop users. Tools are renamed, layout is a bit changed, to make it more like photoshop. Try it :) Both Gimp and Gimpshop are also multiplatform. They run just as well on Windows as Linux. You might also try looking into Inkscape - http://sourceforge.net/projects/inkscape/ It all depends on what program you like the most and what best fits your needs. Try a few and use what you like most :)
16 Report	Luminoth at 25 Dec 2006: 21:25 The GIMP i'm interested but its confusing. What do I click it looks as if I may press something then BOOM something bad happens.
17 Report	Luminoth at 25 Dec 2006: 21:30 http://chameleonboy.livedigital.com/content/1341432/ This is what I made using PRINT. On a scale from 1-10 how much better would it look if I used Photoshop/GIMP?
18 Report	at 26 Dec 2006: 00:51 at 17 Your artistic ability is the deciding factor, not the program you use.
19 Report	at 26 Dec 2006: 08:52 It's important to start out with a good program. For most artists, the software becomes second nature. Therefore, most artists stick to what they are used to. Changing programs would reduce an artist's productivity, so it's usually not worth it to change.
20 Report	Luminoth at 26 Dec 2006: 09:57 Well I'm not really familiar with Print. I actually just started using it.
21 Report	Pseudonymous#etKsoAmNPI at 26 Dec 2006: 18:28 I'm using Paint Shop Pro 7 and a mouse... first I do a rough sketch of what I'd like to draw with the paintbrush tool, and then I start to draw clear lines using bezier curves...it may take longer than with a tablet, but at least it looks the way I want it to look
22 Report	Luminoth at 26 Dec 2006: 19:44 Any examples?
23 Report	Luminoth at 26 Dec 2006: 20:05 Okay so I just tried out GIMPshop for windows, but it keeps saying theres a pronlem and it needs to close. What could be wrong?
24 Report	at 26 Dec 2006: 22:24 My guess is it's some problem with GTK+ libraries. That's what it usually was in mine. But if you used the usual installers, it should have taken care of that dependency. sigh, if only there was an emerge for windows.
25 Report	Luminoth at 27 Dec 2006: 11:22 The usually problem for me is the path tool for gimp. When you stroke it.
26 Report	at 27 Dec 2006: 14:47 >>25 You have problems stroking your gimp?
27 Report	Luminoth at 27 Dec 2006: 16:42 Ha, ha very funny. Serously though it has a Problem in GIMP>>26 with the path tool
28 Report	at 27 Dec 2006: 17:23 >>27 So it's a problem with a gimped tool?
29 Report	Luminoth at 27 Dec 2006: 17:32 Yeah, the path tool. It really ticks me off because I can't form shapes well with a mouse. Where do you report the problem?
30 Report	Hellf[i]re at 28 Dec 2006: 00:47 >>24 emerge for windows? It'd be horrid. Imagine the just the python dependancies. That's about as good an idea as using Microsoft's Automated Express Virus Delivery System. ...I mean, Outlook Express... :D >>29 http://bugs.gimp.org/
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