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peppermint rhino at 24 Dec 2006: 00:09

for those of you that came in here looking for propoganda material or an insane idea, sorry.  I came across a picture by gideon (who i kno is DNP but that doenst mean his name is off limits.) and it made me wonder if some of the art we see here is capable of changing the way people in the world think. whats especailly scarey is that it was a pic of a gay male couple and im straight as an arrow. i just looked at it and i saw the deep emotion radiating off of the couple and i couldnt help but think that something like this could change the way people see things wether they be homosexual or not. the fandom has some aspects in its art that ive yet to see in ne thing mainstream or that woudl show up in a museum. the feelings that appear to be put into some of these pictures is just dumbfounding and outright moving. i tend to see deeper into things than most but id like to see what the rest of the board thinks.

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at 24 Dec 2006: 00:55

i dont know about changing the way the entire world thinks..

but if its any comfort im the same as you. in reality im straight, but for furries im gay. its all in the emotions theyre expressing. atleast thats a major part of it for me.

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at 24 Dec 2006: 02:04

I look at porn for their ability to assist my fappage.

So I doubt they'll change my perspective anytime soon. :P

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at 24 Dec 2006: 05:32

>>1 If Gideon's art is able to change your sexual status, I feel for you. There's much, much better artists to have you turn gay.

"the fandom has some aspects in its art that ive yet to see in ne thing mainstream or that woudl show up in a museum. the feelings that appear to be put into some of these pictures is just dumbfounding and outright moving. i tend to see deeper into things than most but id like to see what the rest of the board thinks."

Your someone who not look at a wide range of art are you? I mean..wow..

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peppermint rhino at 24 Dec 2006: 18:25

>>2

not really looking for comfort at all. im perfectly secure knwong that im the only one who thinks what i do. i couldnt care less about approval from unseen faces in the cyber community. however it is nice to see that someone else picks up on some of the same things i do so i thank you for expressing that. im not at all worried that seeing that art and feeling something will make me gay or alter my sexuality in any way shape or form. im more than secure with myself and have no need to ask the questions that some have with regards to the strange phenomenon of finding M/M art intriguiing for one reason or the other.


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I was reffering to the clean art rather than the adult material. If uv'e seen some of my posts across the board i tend to applaud stuff that is clean and sentimental rather than raunchy and kinky. that is not to say i can not appreciate those pictures as well but i find more appealing aspects in what requires the artist to dive into their own emotions and thoguhts rather than produce an adult piece.



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hardly. been to the simthsonian and modenr art museum in D.C. more than a few times and i enjoy perusing the local indy art shops. im dead serious when i say that i havent seen ne thing that would be comporable. perhps that initial statement was too endearing to those pieces and too exclusive to traditioal art that woudl find a home in an upstanding institution of appreciation for fine art. I tend to have a rather prothetic and or high-and-mighty tone as i write these posts but se la vie. your right. Please believe me when i say that i have seen a lot of art besides what graces the pages of fchan. I dont like to limit myself to exposure of ne thing so i certainly wouldnt do it with this topic.

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at 24 Dec 2006: 20:33

>>5

Oh, well yeah, there's plenty of furry art that is well done artistically that holds a lot of deep pathos.

It's just that when you said "the art found around here" I figured porn. Since 7 of the 9 image boards here on Fchan are for porn.

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peppermint rhino at 24 Dec 2006: 21:08

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dear god isnt that the truth. if u read the vcl rules they clearly state that this is not for pornographic material becuase it requires no talent what-so-ever while what is posted on the VCL is art becuase by its very definetion it requires talent. but no. a lot of the clean art found within the fandom is very moving and heartfilled. I do honestly believe that some of the art that is capable of changing the way people see things.

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at 24 Dec 2006: 22:48

"It requires no talent what-so-ever"

Uh...okay. I think I have to disagree. Posting art on Fchan and Posting art on VCL doesn't require different amounts of talent. If anything, VCL's rules are far too restrictive in my opinion.

And by the way, VCL's rules don't say it's not for pornographic material. Because there's...quite a bit of porn ON there.

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at 25 Dec 2006: 01:31

I've been a furry porn artist for the past 8 years or so and i look at a lot of furry art.  I honestly believe that furry art has zero merit artistically.  There are some good artists, that can draw a nice picture, but a good drawing isn't necesarily art with deep meaning, subtlety and social commentary.  The vast majority of furry art is also based around a sexual fetish, and that stuff is pornography which is the opposite of art pretty much.

When i'm looking for real art i hit a museum or gallery.  When i want furry porn or to look at something that caters to my sexual fetish, i look at furry stuff.

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at 25 Dec 2006: 03:25

Well, art's also in the eye of the beholder. There are many pieces in museums where I've questioned just WHY they're there.

Honestly, I know that some pieces are "experimental" and "break the fourth wall" or whatever else the big-shot art critics have proclaimed, but to me? Honestly I can't draw meaning from a human figure drawn in awkward squares. Or from a religious figure painted with feces.

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peppermint rhino at 25 Dec 2006: 14:04

>>8

Uh...okay. I think I have to disagree. Posting art on Fchan and Posting art on VCL doesn't require different amounts of talent. If anything, VCL's rules are far too restrictive in my opinion.

And by the way, VCL's rules don't say it's not for pornographic material. Because there's...quite a bit of porn ON there.

no doubt, i didnt say that now did i?  i told u what their rules say. they may not sya that verbatim but its close enough to that sentiment. and what i said was that vcl will say that RL pornographic material has no artistic merit not what some of the artists there submit.  and yes their rules are extremely restricitve not to mention i have to question some of the criticizms that come from the mods because of the fact they begin to accuse some of my stories as being purely fiction when they clearly are and pointint out the short comings of scifi works in comparison to true science confound me not to mention that i have seen them condem talented artists for their style amazes me.

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I honestly believe that furry art has zero merit artistically

i dont think i could agree with that statement simply becuase of the fact that ive tried my hand at some fan art and various other things and then found my talent with the writen word. so i do believe it takes talent to produce even the porn that shows up here in comparison to the shots of naked women who will drop trou for cash. and yes 9/10 pieces here are porn no questions asked and are based arrond a fetish. i dont think it takes a great deal of social commentary or even emotion to make a great pic, but they certainly do something positive for it.

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i believe i have found my answer. art, like beauty will varry between individuals but i still believe that the pieces that ooze emotion and the soul of the artist have more potentiol than most will accredit but as ive said before thats me and apparently like everything else in my life i stand alone.

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at 25 Dec 2006: 15:23

>>11

Like i said above.  There are many great pics in furry.  It's not art though.  Sure Thomas Kinkade has some talent, he's a pretty good painter, better than anybody i know, but his pictures are kitchy, schlocky trash, not art by any means.  That's the best analogy i can give.  Like furry art, it's just something pretty to look at.

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at 25 Dec 2006: 19:24

I can see what you're saying. I mean, even if it's not clean, some of the pictures have a lot of emotion to them. I don't know what it is about it, maybe we're all just a bit wierd, but there's definatley something about furry art than just makes you not care whether they're male or female. Well, that's my case anyway.

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Dalamin at 26 Dec 2006: 16:11

Again, art is in the eye of the beholder. There are some furry pics out there, even yiffy ones, that can be described as simply heart moving. Yes, there are plenty that make ones heart beat a little faster and your pants get tight, but thats sex.
When I see something that makes me sigh and want to cuddle up with someone I love, THAT is art. Male, female, furry, human, dosnt matter. The method used to convey the emotion is irelivent.

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Xenofur at 26 Dec 2006: 17:33

Guys, stop arguing. Nobody knows what art is, NOBODY, period. (And i'm not talking about our mod.) Some may claim that "for them" xxx is art and yyy not, but that is nothing more than a personal opinion.

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e at 16 Jan 2007: 20:20

deep meaning, subtlety and social commentary have nothing to do with art. stfu & gtfo you philistine armchair-philosopher hippy!!!!!!

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