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Before I actually start with the thread, I have to, at first, reply to the thread in /m/ which was the inspiration for this post.

I became a furry at first, because I was disgusted with Real Life porn. Of all varieties. And beyond that, I needed a shift in my sexuality to avoid doing harm to myself (I was a masochist of the highest caliber). I had fantasies before of anthros before, I just didn't really connect A to B until I began stumbling upon it in the net.

It appealed to me at first, because of the expressions. They were Genuine. The feelings were conveyed through the artwork flawlessly and were heart-felt. sincere. Within styles like that of Ayame Emaya's (she was most responsible for me becoming a furry), the emotions came through clearly. It wasn't the obvious facade in RL porn, nor the overdone bluntness in the Japanese styles like Hentai. It was pure, & affectionate.

Anyway, enough of that. On to the actual thread. My apologies for the poor quality. If you must elaborate

The greatest threat to us (If you could call it that), the community, doesn't come from the occasional undertone of beastiality, such as sheaths (Or more blatant imagery). Nor does it come from the furry-specific fetishes that can be misinterpreted, and even then difficult to accept, once understood. And as destructive as some pervs are, in acting as representatives of our sub-culture, along with the sheer lack of IQ points others yet seem to be afflicted by, even that isn't the real danger.

The greatest threat looming over us all is being pissy little drama-crazed fucks lashing out against each other over the most unnecessary, most mind numbingly stupid little shit imaginable. It is Drama, so easily gotten over, so simple to avoid, that's going to end us. Something, that seemingly noone can avoid on the internet. That is whats going to do us in, if our community really is that fragile.

Pure and simple.

I'd have to say, I agree. I know this is just an image board, but non-furries see things like this and that's what they think of us.

I've cut a handful of people out of my life over this very thing.  Some furries are just more immature than they let on.  I think in most cases, I think its a -LEARNED- behavior.  "Being a whiny bitch that flails about in a hissy fit gets me attention so, here I go!!  WAH."  ..Then their yes-friend fair-weather friends reinforce that behavior with something as simple as a pat on the back, or a FUCKING BLOODTHIRSTY CRUSADE against the 'offending party.'  They're such big jerks!  Assholes!  The scum of the fandom!  They're just jealous!  Most of the 'offending party' that I've gotten to know are much better people than the silly furry grapeviners themselves!  ..The only difference is that they don't kiss ass, and aren't afraid to say 'that's bullshit' and disagree.

How does that saying go.. 'Even infamy is good fame.'?  It certainly does apply in the fandom.

Other fandoms whine, bitch, and argue just as much as furries.

Consider gamers... Gamers argue whether the Playstation or Xbox has the best graphics. Sony fans belittle Nintendo for being "kiddie". Nintendo fans whine about how Nintendo has supposidly abandoned faithful "hardcore gamers" to persue "casual gamers". PC fans berate console gamers for having lesser graphics. The video game fandom is full of "little drama-crazed fucks lashing out against each other".

So, why do people make such a big deal over drama in the furry fandom?

>>7
>>8
Some of the people bitching about anime or consoles can get pretty freaking retarded but I agree that the furry fandom has MUCH worse drama than any other fandom. Chances are the ones who are the biggest drama whores in other fandoms are probably furries too.

The problem with furries is that unlike other fandoms they feel the need to go on actual crusades for whatever the hell reasons they have. Crusades usually end up in defeat because the idea behind most crusades is usually flawed in the first place.

Of course I doubt this drama will "do us in" but it is pretty fucking obnoxious and i'm tired of dealing with it in regards to the fandom. All I really do now is just download art and avoid the community aspect of the fandom(except in these discussion boards on occassion)

>>10
The SNES was the "technically" superior system but it wasn't the "best" overall system if we are talking about games. Some people would argue the Genesis had more "classic" games while the SNES had more technically(graphics/sound) superior games. In the end it all comes down to how much fun you had on each respective system.

Arguing over it is pointless because your preference in which system is better is reliant upon a long list of subjective factors. It could easily be argued that PS2 is better than Gamecube for instance. GC has superior technical specs but PS2 obviously has more games and developer support. It also has more diversity in it's game library while people could easily argue GC is just rehashing franchises over and over.

Point is...there is no winner in the argument, it's all subjective.

>>12
No, you are what the OP was talking about. You are creating further drama by trying to say that others are creating drama, one of which was trying to say the drama is pointless because of the subjective nature of opinions. Congrats.

You know what causes drama, when posts are longer then they need to be, and when it sounds like an essay paper.

>>1 You are naive. The bitching has been around as long as the fandom has, and it's lasted for over two decades.

>>15
Fail.

>>18
Anonymity does cause many problems. For instance, i've ruined people's shit in forums and had everyone else take my side thus chasing out morons. However that's impossible on fchan where the offending party will just keep spouting off bullshit because there is no consequence.

Even though people are still fairly anonymous even on a registered forum...just the prospect of having a name/identity causes people to act with decency out of fear of being hated by their peers.

Fchan has no forced identity and so the drama will ensue because of it.

>>17

I knew I had a right to be paranoid. Pretty much in the instant I had hit the send button I knew I had shot my mouth off. Besides that, I'm not anywhere near eloquent enough in speech to have done justice to what I meant to say.

At least it's nowhere near as bad as I thought it was.

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>>21
Anonymous is a double-edged sword, with more pros than cons, I feel.

The biggest con is, as was stated, that people sometimes act retarded when they aren't going to be held responsible for what they say or do.  There are other things, but that's the largest issue with anonymous posting.

The biggest pro is that people will respond to your words and not your name.  You're going to treat a post differently if the author is not known than you would if it was someone you had positive or negative feelings towards.  If a post is made by someone you know or have great respect for, you're going to more readily accept their views or opinions than someone you don't.  Likewise, you're more likely to simply dismiss a perfectly valid post simply because it was written by someone you don't like.

Anonymous posting has been brought up many times, mostly people asking for it to be removed, but it hasn't yet and probably won't be.  More than a few times I've seen requests for a registration system, and it's always met with laughter.  I've never seen a *chan make this big a deal about it as this one has.  Personally, I think it's because furries, for some reason, HAVE to put their name on everything.  They HAVE to be identified.  It's like some strange complex, and I really don't feel like looking into it.  Besides, it's not like there's FORCED anonymous.  You can a put name in if you like, though if you do, I would recommend using a tripcode.  Helps to somewhat prevent the OH NOES-tastic board identity theft.

Lol long posts? Looks like drama right here to me.

Everybody thinks they're right.

>>30

*Takes a mushroom* OH NO!! IT WAS A POISON MUSHROOM! *loses fire-flower power-up*

I think the fact that loudmouthed furries are... uhh... loud... is the reason why people think that furries don't now how to shut the  philo dough up.  I'll be going now *tip-toes away quietly*

>>32
From one writer to another: pipe down and have a beer!  =D

I agree with what you are saying.  However, I wouldn't blame the written word for expressive restriction, I would blame the impersonal nature of the internet.  Hell, you can express anything in writing depending upon word choice and pacing.  Since the internet is such an expansive and anonymous medium, one may express whatever rude and cruel behavior he/she pleases without risking being ostracized from the group (since "group" in this case is not easily definable).  In addition, we aren't able to receive feedback through facial expression making it difficult to process reactions (...no, emoticons don't work well enough... but nice try).  I'm just throwing in my two cents.  Now I'll go drown myself in some pale ale to ease the pain of trying to thrive in a self-destructive society called humanity.

okay drama on *in the age old tradition of tounge in cheek*
your all idiots.
sheesh drama is perhaps the defining aspect of furry anymore.
tear the community apart? (hardly likely) its what brings new drama loving folks into the folds.
okay tounge out of cheek.
if anyone thinks the drama is that bad, then they are taking the interwebs and furry insults far far far to personally and or think us old timers who wear abestos underware really are spooked by drama.
drama is and drama always be part of the human equation - lots of us just fucking loooove to whine and bitch. its how one reacts that is far more important than the initial whine.
*chuckles and grins*
peace be with ya all.
Couger

Eventually after all the fuss it comes down to one word

 FURRY

Do you dig it ?

>>32 "SIDE NOTE: Technically speaking the fandom goes back several thousand years and is more widespread than most religions. In fact, it was a PART of most religions at the time. The Egyptian gods, tales of fish people on the sea, Native-American legends of the Wendigo as well as every other creature being given human traits; The Japanese Kitsune, supposedly able to change from a nine-tailed fox into a beautiful young woman as well as a combination of the two forms, and the legends of the Werewolf. Hell, even most European Fairy Tales are about, or contain, anthropomorphic animals and furries!"

wut?

I think your one more furry who does not know what the hell they are spewing from their fingertips. No matter how you try to spin it, the 'fandom' does NOT go back more then 35 years really. Use of animals in human settings or having sex does not = omgfurries or even imply the artists and writers or people were 'furries'. Every time someone brings that point up, they always seem quick to claim the fandom is older and has deeper roots then people think. Newsflash - Humans tend to use animals in human roles due to reasons other then you might think.

Just because it's a animal on two legs does not mean you can call it furry. Use of anthropomorphic animals has been going forever and will likely go on now, only now we have a small group of people who tthe use of every walking talking or sometimes sexual animal in writing or in art is automaticaly 'furry'. Someone needs to go take some writing and art history classes me thinks.

This is why people sneer at furries. No other fandom has this level of ego mixed in with misinformation.