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at 23 Sep 2007: 13:56

My friend told me that there's supposed to be a female character in the upcoming Tail Underground. Is this true or is he just pulling my leg?

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FoxStar at 23 Sep 2007: 17:38

The only 'female' that may appear is Lady Ellysia, the Goddess who created the world that TTU is set in and that may be related to the God-Killer Ale and a very short segment, nothing sexual what so ever. Other then that, Ian has no plans to have females in the bar. It does not fit with the theme of the TTU, or the world it's in currently to have females in TTU.

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at 23 Sep 2007: 19:06

"...wine cellar and even the kitchen, where you'll be able to meet the chef's assistant twins Black and Tan, as well as their "auntie", the head chef Tabetta."
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/480457/

Said Tabetta:
http://www.furaffinity.net/full/679368/

Drawn by Ian in this one:
http://www.furaffinity.net/full/754796/

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FoxStar at 23 Sep 2007: 21:53

Well she's possable, but I wouldn't count on her in any active flash scenes, at least not for some time. More like a background character.

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at 24 Sep 2007: 20:58

>>2
Not consistent with its world to have sex with females? so... it's an entire planet full of gays?

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Foxstar#CB0Eh8ltCY at 24 Sep 2007: 22:18

>>5 The setting of the bar itself, not the planet.

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FoxStar at 24 Sep 2007: 22:24

Above was me, forgot to log in.

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Ian_R_Soulfox at 27 Sep 2007: 05:12

Tabetta Landhyre, a character created by Kitsune Wovstah will appear eventually in the tavern update. Basically she's the resident den mother/chef/ "fag hag" of the tavern. Never having children of her own unfortunately due to the card dealt her by life, she helps out in her own way and tries to do her best to watch out for her "boys" at the Underground when need be. She'll primarily show up in the kitchen area where you can speak with her directly, when she's not chastising the twins Black and Tan over the missing butter that the tavern kitchen is always short on.

It would be nice if more tried to realize that there's more to the world the Underground is based on other than gay sex.. but.. I guess I shouldn't expect anyone to be interested in that sort of thing, let alone some old flash website long overdue a shutdown.

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Nica Nightspots at 28 Sep 2007: 00:34

AW SNAP!

Way to go at them Ian, that's telling them.

It's always funny when people assume that a world is one way by the sum of a few people. They never want to look further. I guess since this is for some, an amusement for wanking- plot or anything else- is meaningless. Of course this isn't ALL who view it, its for those individuals. I actually know someone who read Ian's journals in the flash itself. And thus he became a real fan of the Underground. Which is ironically enough, Wovstah himself.

Now I shall escape from the eventual flaming responses. Excuse my pun. XD

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at 28 Sep 2007: 01:08

I assumed the world was one way due to a certain quote, "It does not fit with the theme of the [...] world it's in currently to have females in TTU."

Which, to me, can only mean that the entire world is homosexual, or at least public sex with females is some kind of taboo.

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at 28 Sep 2007: 06:45

You take "world" to literally.

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at 28 Sep 2007: 09:19

>>10
I'd read right into what Ian has said once again carefully. If the whole thing of TTG isn't about gay sex, then it's not a "world of homosexual". At least that is what I get from context. I think this is Ian's way of proving this point adding female characters. I myself can't wait to see where this will take it all.

I guess there will be opinions. But if the creator tells you otherwise? I think the debate would end there.

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at 28 Sep 2007: 14:07

>>12
They're not arguing with the creator, they're just saying that a quote someone else said gave them the impression.  I must admit, I also got the same impression from the quote in question.

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at 2 Oct 2007: 19:49

Do you guys have a date in mind for the realise of the new flash?

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at 2 Oct 2007: 21:34

>>8

how can we think about nothing but gay sex in your flash, when you fill it with nothing but? all the art and stories lead to gay sex, all the flash leads to gay sex... your site is nothing more than a place for people to whack it to fairly detailed flash animated gay sex! thats it! sorry :P

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at 2 Oct 2007: 22:03

>>15
Hmph!

Just because one expresses themselves in a particular field of erotica does not mean that their life or mentality completely revolves around it.

Take this, for instance, a person who draws elves all the time. Perhaps they have an affinity for the mystical creatures which spreads to a loving energy within their being. Perhaps, they wish people could be more like elves, loving and caring.

Same might go for Ian. It's not that his bar is about gay sex, maybe a deeper reason to express the oppression the gay males go through. Adding this female is a source of support in an otherwise cruel world.

So no, it's not all about gay sex. It's about the suffering of the characters, and a reflection on the creator. Surely, there is a lot of sexual fun in the Tail Underground bar, but there's an entire world outside of it!

Read the journal on Ian's desk! Look at his other art. Again, erotica, but it's not all TU related. Some of it is, and yes, homosexual - but it all has its own story.

I'm not trying to be mean here, just coming from the other side of the fence.

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at 2 Oct 2007: 23:00

You guys take your porn way too seriously.

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at 2 Oct 2007: 23:19

>>17
*shrugs*

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Anon at 3 Oct 2007: 00:19

>>16

lol

>>17

You forget what fandom you're in.

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at 3 Oct 2007: 01:03

>>19
Agreeing. lol

Hence the shrug. ^_^

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at 3 Oct 2007: 16:05

I wanted to know if someone have a idea of a date of the realise?

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at 3 Oct 2007: 16:17

>>21 Ian has it on hold until further notice.


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>>19
No, because I know there's more to the Tail Underground than just porn. It's not my main focus. If you wish to look at it like that, then go ahead. But do try to realize there is something deeper than just smut to it.

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at 3 Oct 2007: 17:47

>>22
Don't get me wrong, I'm thankful for the work Ian's gone through to make the site, and impressed with the depth to which it goes through as far as extra activities, secrets, and interactive scenes and such.

But if all roads lead to porn...it's really just about porn. I'm sure that's not how Ian says it and I don't mean any offense, but that's how it appears to me. I can go to a gallery that has loads of porn. I can go to a listing of pornographic stories and literature. I can get linked to other artists who draw porn, and a great deal of the interactive scenes are sexual in nature.

The only "deeper" part of it that I read was a FAQ on the side where he described the fantasy world this took place in, and the journal on the desk in Ian's room.

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at 3 Oct 2007: 17:48

...and replace the word "says" with "sees" in paragraph 2. I need to be more careful in proofreading methinks. :P

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at 27 Oct 2007: 04:48

Bump

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at 27 Oct 2007: 11:57

Anything new of this flash game?

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FoxStar at 27 Oct 2007: 12:52

On hold till he gets a better and less stressful job. He will likely work out details and stuff, but site work takes hours.

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BunnyLR at 14 Dec 2007: 00:53

I think that if anyone actually took the time to read some of the texts that are posted in TTU, they'd understand more of the inn's setting. There are explanations available, its just that it takes a little effort and will to go past the great animation work.

And by the way, I don't think anyone is putting a lot of effort at being formal and all. Proofreading what I write on a message board is kind of useless. You could leave one letter out of really each word of a sentence and still get the message across. this is suppose to be friendly talk, not some kind of literary argument.
well that's my two cents!

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Crae_Foxx at 28 May 2008: 20:16

Great game and all, but if you put in secrets that the player has to solve some puzzle or something it makes getting to the prize alot better.

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furrielover at 2 Jun 2008: 14:26

all i can say is  i cant wait till the next one comes out TTU is Amazing!!

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wolffy at 25 Jul 2008: 02:52

TTU is incredible cant wait till round 2
i hope theres a shemale in this one to :P

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at 13 Sep 2008: 09:15

You've probably been told this before, but I'd be willing to pay a reasonable amount for a brand new TTU.  I know many would not, but maybe enough would to relieve some of your financial duress?

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at 13 Sep 2008: 21:19

>>32
a) The maker of the flash isn't here.
b) If you actually bothered to search, you'd find his yahoo group, and hence methods of supporting him there.

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at 22 Sep 2008: 07:44

Ian decided not to work on TTU anymore a while back.  Until he gets less stressed, it's just a hassle for him.

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Dragon Fhang at 12 Mar 2009: 22:56

well thats good . so long as he gets a rest and can release it at his leisure. personally myself im not always about furry porn but i enjoy the tail underground flash for the animation itself , partially because im in a college for digital art and annimation. ill be doing stuff like that and ill learn from the best.  (looks at Ian, Zen, and HTH studios)

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