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It sounds like this particular girl is still in high school.  Either that, or she seriously needs to grow the fuck up.  Adult women generally don't behave in such a manner.

>>2
I haven't dealt with women in quite a while because my experience with them from age 10-20 was so negative that I decided my time was better spent trying to improve upon myself, learn more about the world and work toward my dreams rather than waste all my time trying to impress and keep some girl happy.

So yeah, I can't really disagree with you and i'm sure you are right about adult women being less insane but i'm sure there is plenty of nutcases still out there who didn't grow up especially with the latest generation being so fucked up.

>>5
You won't feel that way once the house starts turning into a huge fucking mess, your work becomes more demanding and you come home only to have to clean up her mess in addition to cooking dinner and doing all the chores just to get a bit of sex. Good luck having the energy to fuck her after working for 12-15+ hours a day, lolz.

Trust me, once you actually are in a relationship like you are describing for a few years you will get tired of it pretty quick. I've known a lot of friends who marry into relationships like that and they got divorced within 6-12 months.

aw...I thought quoting would function like a normal chan. :(

Anyway my biggest pet peeve has to be unrealistic body image, because it drives so much of the other idiocy. It's like the unseen 800-foot elephant in the room. Happens to guys too. My last boyfriend was always comparing himself to guys that have personal trainers and strict diets. Then he started taking Creatine and bulking out, didn't work out evenly, and wound up a misshapen Strongman, and I was just like "...you idiot, I liked the skinny goth kid I first hooked up with, not Half-Thor."

two words...  ugg boots. nothing pisses me off like a blonde girl walking around in a mini skirt and uggs

There's really only one peeve that I have with women in general.  That is that they constantly insist upon talking, even when they have nothing really to talk about.  That gets really old.  I don't know; maybe that's just the kind of women I gravitate to.

You know, there is a simple tool for dealing with most of the above complaints, and it is the only one that I have found to be effective--ballsy indifference.  Nothing else can put a stop to common relationship bullshit.  If she doesn't want to risk breaking her nails, you just go on and do what you want to do and leave her behind.  She'll catch up if she really wants to!  If she talks on the phone all day, ignore her after she gets off until you feel like talking to her.  If she wants to talk about something you don't care to hear about, say "Yeah, whatever" and leave.  Sure, you may lose one or two girlfriends this way.  But think of it this way--if all they wanted from you was worship, then you didn't really lose anything of value.

A common mistake men make when dealing with women is to try so hard to satisfy them that they sacrifice their own egos.  Straight women like guys for a reason, and it's not because we're pretty.  Failure to occasionally put your balls on display costs you their respect and esteem which you need for a decent and mutual relationship.  Remember, if you can't challenge her, she'll find someone who can.

One thing you brought up that I wanted to address separately is the issue with girls who get defensive with other girls.  Jealous people are completely and utterly worthless.  This applies to guys too.  A jealous person can never be any good for anybody, because they aren't even good enough for themselves.  If you're with someone who starts getting jealous, tell them straight up that that is not acceptable.  Tell them once and only once.  After that, any further infraction earns their ass a ticket to the curb.

Men:
- Who think they have to be all buff and tough to get a girl. Not everyone likes testosterone!

- Who think I'm not worth their time because I'm not some big-chested blonde bimbo. Yeah, screw talent, creativity and brains. Why not have someone who can't think at all?!

- Who think that just because I have boobs and a babymaker, I'm just like every other girl. Uh, no. I'm not selfish (In fact, I feel really guilty when people get me things), I like to give presents alot (99% of them being things I made, because I'm an artsy person), I like being equal and refuse to have the guy pay for dates (I want to pay at least half, and if I don't have money, I'll pay him back later.)

- Who think I should get whatever I want, just because I'm a girl. No. We are both human, and should both be treated equally.  You're not being nice by giving me what I want, you're being a prick for ignoring me when I tell you to STOP IT!

- Who think I'm a guy at first (And I don't mind that, since I'm transgender), treat me really nice, and then when they find out I'm a girl, they start calling me "miss/ma'am", ignoring my thoughts/opinions, ignoring ME, and pretty much being an asshole. Some of 'em keep saying sorry and acting like they owe me everything just because I have boobs and stuff, but I still hate it. (I mean, what the hell? I like video games and porn just like you, how am I inferior just because I'm a girl? And if I didn't mind you calling me he/him ten thousand times, then maybe I don't friggin' care about what you did! Stop being sorry!)

Women:
- Who think porn is gross, and if you look at it you're disgusting, a pervert, a filthy virgin, etc. There's nothing wrong with having a little sexuality.

- Who think they can make out/fuck every guy they know and it being okay, but if their boyfriend just looks at a girl, he's a filthy pervert and a horrible boyfriend.

- Who think talent is meaningless, and that you can only get a boyfriend if you're a whore, stupid and spoiled.

- Who think gifts that were just bought from the store are better than ones made with love. I have made too many gifts for cute boys and had too many girls criticize me, and it is so friggin' annoying.

- Who think I should wear make-up, whether I like it or not, or else I'll die a lonely virgin. If I wanna be "ugly", let me. Now stay the hell away from me, especially with your disgusting make-up.

Ugh. I hate so many people. This post is so long...

>>14
:D

I agree with most of this.


I don't have anything against either sex, since everything that I have against people can be shared by both.  Problems are not sex specific, and... really... you have to learn to accept some flaws.
In my case, I'm a bit insecure, which makes me a tad jealous.  I haven't yet learned how to not to have these be a problem... Not that it makes me a bad person, it's just something that I may need help getting through.  That's all.

Equality is nice, by the way.  I don't want to be with a male or female who thinks that they need to treat me like a goddess.  Fuck that.  Nor do I want to be with someone who thinks I need to be their damn slave.  Not happening.

Oh!  One big one: Males or females who continually think that, because of their maleness or femaleness, they need to BE some specific way, or the reason they have THIS problem is because they ARE male or female.  No no, it goes both ways and usually quite equally... Usually.

Someone who spends too much time working on some specific part of their body, or wasting money to try to make it look better.  No, you don't need a fuckton of makeup on your face.  I don't want it on mine, get it off yours.  No, you don't need to make your nails shiny as hell, nor go to some parlor and waste a lot of money making them shiny.  You don't need to wax your chest (gawd, no) or shine your BIG BUFF MUSCLES OMFUGUH.

My friend is attracting my attention, I will stop with thee long, weird post.

>>14
Yeah, I hate that too. Just because you're a girl, doesn't mean you have to wear dresses and make-up and be obsessed with shopping. And just because you're a guy, doesn't mean you have to love sports, be an emotionless drone and fight everything with a dick.

>>17
It's still pretty annoying. All but two of the guys I've ever liked only wanted bimbos, and treated me like shit. (One even flirted with me, got a bimbo girlfriend and never told me, and then yelled at me for flirting with him!)

Hmm...I can't help but doubt that thing about the "ZOMG IM SO SORRYYYY ;~; " guys. A few of the guys I know a little bit have mothers (and fathers, for some of them) who could care less what they do and neglect them and crap.

I'd try if I didn't already. The majority of people I know that aren't "goth" or "punky" or "emo" hate me and think I'm weird, just because I like pants and not wearing make-up. At least I'll be out of high school soon...Hopefully there won't be that many idiots at the art institute I'm going to~

>>19
"yet they always end up looking right past guys like me and shacking up with the rude, pushy, controlling types."

They can't fight their DNA and insticts which tell them to go with the 'strongest' mate in order to give birth to the strongest possible children. Rude, pushy and aggressive is strong in terms of 'nature', so that's why they gravitate that way.

>>20
Only because the mags tell them that's what they should go after. Used ta be they went after the truly powerful, fast, intelligent, good stamina and endurance, strong moral code, etc.
Now only basic physical strength and aggression matter. We've come full circle, and are now cavepeople with computers.

>>23
Few DECADES?
I feel like I should brain you with a holy sprinkler. But the resulting stupid escaping from the perforated void would swallow my existence into its inky black nothingness and spit me out the other side as a congealed unintelligible goo.
These last few decades have been among some of the worst since the Crusades, post-Caesar reign, and the Mongol Expansion.

It sounds to me like most of the peeves here apply primarily to girls and guys who are still in high school.  Seriously... relationships aren't even worth it until you get to college.  Even the first few years there can be iffy, but after you get further along, the people remaining, in general, are the ones who actually have stable personalities and know what they want.  It only gets better after you're out and into the professional world.

Re: girls don't like nice guys
No, girls don't like guys who are pushovers.  It doesn't matter how nice you are if you're a milquetoast sop.  Being nice, confident, and assertive are not mutually exclusive.

Re: These last few decades have been among some of the worst since the Crusades, post-Caesar reign, and the Mongol Expansion.
Yes, the last few decades have been horrible, because things like equality between sexes, races, and beliefs were so much better back in the 50's.  Just like how people could communicate so much more easily and were so much more informed before the advent of the internet.  Seriously, though, stop paying attention to the propaganda and look objectively at how the average quality of life is compared to even fifty years ago.

>>27
Even if you were to seek genetic perfection, definitions of perfection varies. Some prefer tallness. Some prefer shortness. You may be able to root out common defects, but no more than that.

Mental disorders are a tricky subject: they are but merely a different way of thinking, and has been shown that in specific instances, having a "mental defect" actually increases chances of survival.

Your proposal, abeit just, ignores the whole concept of humanity, to care for others, and is too easily abused. Do remember that in some traditional communities, being female was actually considered a defect. You have to first definitively define such in such a way that it may not be abused, nor prevent positive evolution.

Which comes another point: we can never tell for sure whether any "defect" is actually a positive evolution until it has occured. For example, Sickle-cell anemia was actually a positive evolution (in the past) which helped to resist malaria.

Last point: you assert that genetic perfection would lead to stopping wars and conflicts. I claim that the majority of wars/conflicts has never been about genetics, but merely (sometimes) used genetics as an excuse/rationale. Hitler used genetics as an excuse to genocide the Jews, but the main reason has always been restoring power to the native german population. Whites used genetics as an excuse to deem themselves superior to blacks, but the true reason has always been cultural superiority.

>>29
I'll use analogies so long as they fit into discussion. And besides, with the exception of genocide and contry invasion, Hitler actually managed some miracles, such as the complete revitalization of the German economy right after a war.

You know, the Nazi concept also included them being the perfect race. It actually fits into this discussion more than you think.

Why Nice Guys Can't Get Girls (Written by a guy)
http://briankim.net/blog/2006/08/why-nice-guys-cant-get-girls/

And the same thing, written by a woman
http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml

>>33
a) A socialist system by itself wouldn't have that much revitalization. There's a lot of factors and fiscal manipulation involved.
b) To completely convert a nation to such a system within such a short timeframe would require something similar.

Either way, you're nitpicking my points in >>28 and >>30.