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Is grammar important? I say yes, it is.

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at 22 May 2008: 12:52

Everyday I see people using improper punctuation, grammar and spelling. If you dare to correct them you are called any number of names from jerk to faggot to elitist. Now I myself make plenty of errors and I don't mind if someone corrects me on them because it's the only way i'm going to learn/evolve as a person. On the other hand most people seem to be proud/content with their laziness and lack of evolution, slapping together random crap and calling it a sentence.

As a society we are discouraged from pointing out anything negative about those around us, we must accept them no matter what. I feel this ideaology is going too far and encompassing too many things, many of which can be agreed are not good habits. The excuse of "that's just who I am" shouldn't be abused and used as some turtle shell defense in all situations. Or if we want to go with bad grammar "WTF dats how i talk why dont u stop bringin up pointless shit damn"

At some point we are going to be incapable of communicating with each other out of an inability to understand the various unnecessary slangs. Many of those who use said slang being incapable of standardized proper english, this will also cause those with understanding of english to look down on others. It's awfully hard to have a society that works together and understands each other when no one can communicate and isn't that the point of political correctness?

Now this argument isn't aimed at those hailing from foreign countries who use english as a secondary language. In fact, it seems that in many cases most of you have a better understand of english than the natives do. I've talked to dozens upon dozens from China, Korea, Japan, Thailand, Russia, Germany and all kinds of other countries who speak/type better english than my fellow Americans.

The real shit kicker for me is when people say that proper english simply doesn't matter. Yes, it does matter. If you are trying to communicate via politics or in the business world, no one will take you seriously if you talk like some thug. Writing congress/senate/local government? They won't read your letter if it's a garbled mess. Just about anything you do in life that MATTERS requires a knowledge of proper english. The only exceptions being internet chat rooms, myspace, instant messaging and talks with friends or family. Of course when my friends and family talk like idiots it annoys me just as much because I have to decipher everything they say like it's some fucking code which makes it frustrating instead of fun to hang around them.

How do the rest of you feel about this issue? I bring it up because I noticed a lot of discussions on this forum tend to end up as bitter arguments due to a lack of reading comprehension/communication skills.

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at 22 May 2008: 13:58

tl;dr

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at 22 May 2008: 14:53

>>2
485 words is too long? Yeah ok. Even if you were to sound out every single word(BAD READER) you could still finish the entire thing in less than 120 seconds. Most average readers could finish it in 60 seconds and most good readers in 30-45 seconds.

I chose to actually back up my argument with a few points rather than just say "you all suck at grammar hurrr" so why don't you fuck off? It's not my fault you are some mouthbreather who thinks reading = uncool and thus spends hours everyday posting "tl;dr" in as many places as possible.

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at 22 May 2008: 15:07

When I come to fchan.me I come to look at thick doggy cocks being stuffed up a foxes cunt. I don't come here to read sub-par English grammar rants and I imagine nobody else does either.

Go back to wikipedia where your level of aspergers hyperfocus will no doubt be more welcome.

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at 22 May 2008: 15:11

>>1

Good points? Yes
Furry related? No
GTFO

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Bizzle at 22 May 2008: 15:41

Old copypasta is old.

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at 22 May 2008: 16:46

>>1
Jesus was an extraterrestrial.

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at 22 May 2008: 19:40

i liek mudkipz

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at 22 May 2008: 19:46

>>1

You come here to bitch about spelling and grammar and then get the first fucking word in your post wrong?

You FAIL as a grammar Nazi.

In any case, informal communication has few rules dealing with grammar and spelling correctness.  Usually it varies from place to place and may even differ based on the context of the situation.  Obviously in the "real world" and in professional environments you should at least try to make sure you express yourself accurately.  That said you're probably not going to be fired because you typed "teh" or "theyre" by accident.

tl;dr: locked thread is locked.

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at 23 May 2008: 09:57

>>9
You apparently missed the point where I said i'm not perfect and you also lack the reading comprehension to realize I was talking about people who make no attempt whatsoever at making sense. Instead they expect others to decipher garbled nonsense and if you mention their piss poor english they say that "that shit dont matter" when it DOES. Even in informal conversation it's important to know what the other person is saying or else you are just pretending to communicate.

All I can say to some people is "lol" or "I see" because I don't even know what they are talking about half the time but when I ask them to repeat it more clearly they get all pissed off, hence why I just pretend to understand and ignore them. As for all the people saying this isn't furry related...no, it isn't BUT it does have to do with the communication problems we have on this discussion board where people aren't comprehending each other.

Silly me for thinking it was worth having a discussion on something that could help solve our inability to communicate clearly with each other. After all - like a retard - I expected communication skills which we lack to solve our communication skills problems. What a terrible idea. I guess there is no way to solve this problem since it's impossible to share an idea without someone ignoring 99% of it, focusing on the 1% they can make a negative comment about then blathering on about how stupid someone else is to make themselves feel better.

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at 23 May 2008: 10:27

>>10

Still rambling?
G.T.F.O!

The people who can and understand you don't give a crap, because they can write properly.
Those of whom you bitch about are taking a crap to your senseless post and are gliding between the image board sections.

Sage for Grammar Nazi who thinks that one averagely written post will change the world of the illiterate.

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at 23 May 2008: 10:36

>>11
Still have a shitty attitude?
P.D.T.Y.A

Apparently you think there is some better discussion currently going on...oh wait, there isn't. Would you rather /dis/ just have zero posts? Why the fuck do you even come on this part of the board if you don't want to fucking talk about something. Oh wait, you just want to have a "Knots are hot" thread right? Then you can type "HELL YES" and call it a day.

If past threads are any indication the people who THINK they can write well still lack reading comprehension because all I see in those 100+ posts topics is a bunch of people ignoring what the prior people said then spouting off their own stupid bullshit in repetition.

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at 23 May 2008: 15:58

>>11
You do know that all a sage does is make your own post not bump the thread, right?

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Shaitan at 23 May 2008: 16:14

>>1 I agree with your sentiment. I've started a similar thread a while ago ( http://fchan.me/read.php/dis/1208579127/l40 ) about just such an issue. You can see that it doesn't do anything to mention it.

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Shadowfox at 23 May 2008: 21:19

I cannot type well And to be honest its because My hands dont work as well since i got Autism. But i can still do this or you.
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                     ~You~

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Shadowfox at 23 May 2008: 21:20

And the damn macro broke.. wow that was a bad idea >< Sry

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*typevores you* at 23 May 2008: 21:40

My border collie typevored your honor student.

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at 24 May 2008: 04:25

>>17
That's hot.

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at 24 May 2008: 09:37

I want that on a t-shirt.

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at 24 May 2008: 12:44

OP you have to consider that perhaps if you make a thread and get overwhelmingly negative replies, then maybe you are the one with the communication problem. Nobody wants to talk to you. Take the hint.

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at 24 May 2008: 14:07

When I go to a porn site, I go for porn, nothing else.  Someone who goes to a porn site to have an intellectual conversation about grammar has some serious problems.

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at 24 May 2008: 18:58

>>20
Or it's the same person posting over and over again trolling. Or it's sheeple following the saging of others without even reading the post. Or it's people being overly defensive about a problem they know they have.

>>21
Then don't go in the discussion forum.

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