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>>22

One, it's a valid point, as it suffers from the faults of MUCK and web-chat e-sexing.

Two, it's not IRC e-sexing; the send buffer is too small for RPing like that. (Thank gods.)

>>25

Well, that has nothing to do with the definitions, per se, of either 'furry' or 'anthropomorphic', but have to do with the quality of the writer.  Bad writing is bad writing, period, and is rife throughout all fandoms, and even throughout the mainstream.  It isn't that furry = bad writing, but that bad furry writing = bad writing.  There are a ton of examples of good writing throughout furry fandom, but you're not going to find them if you automatically reject them out of hand because they happen to be furry.

Go through the examples given in >>23 for a smapling of some good stories.  Paul Kidd's work all by itself meets the simple requirement that you're demanding for good writing -- and he's not alone.

>>27

No, can't agree.  It's a matter of quality, not of fandom.  I can agree that the less professional one is (as a matter of practice and mindset) then the poorer the quality of the work will be.  But that's a fact in every existing fandom, nor is it entirely contained solely within the fandom itself.

Frankly, it sounds more like you're trying to split hairs entirely for the sake of your own comfort level.

>>29

Thank you.

>>31

FAIL.

>>31

WTF. >>1 asked for _good_ writing, not some crap comic that glorifies biological failure.

>>27

Furry = any furry culture. Stop pretending the crazy faggots from the 90's were more sophisticated, better at writing, or less faggoty than the crazy faggots from the o's.

"Anthro" would refer to something unassociated with the fandom, or something which predates the fandom, even if it is idolized by the fandom. In essence, it's furry that isn't created by furfags.
Star Fox is an anthro game. Second Life is a furry game.

>>1
Well, you say you're annoyed with the whole medieval trope, but you also asked for the best.

http://www.longpatrolclub.com/images/bookshelf/redwall/redwall_anni.jpg

>>36

No, that's not the difference between 'furry' and 'anthro'... not unless the definitions have further mutated from their original intent.  The only difference between the two was that the coining of 'anthro' was to refer to furry works and interests that were more G and PG.  A lot of furry fans were becoming irked that the fandom was not only becoming heavier with sexual content and becoming a haven for every sexual kink and fetish under the sun, but that there were more and more newcomers were even INSISTING that Furry contained ANY tangential interest so long as THEY thought it was furry.  (Bowling, to use a temer subject for instance, was a furry interest if a furry went bowling.) 'Furry' was starting to become synonomous with Sex, and not everybody involved in the fandom wanted that association.  So several started to call themselves 'anthros' in an attempt to differentiate themselves as those interested in 'cleaner' furry works.

And I'll agree with >>37; REDWALL is NOT the best, not as a medieval age story, and not even as a piece of fiction.  It is entirely overrated and I'm personally tired of people holding it up as some sort of paragon.  It is shallow and predictable, and layered with a thin veneer of racism.  Enough said about REDWALL... please.

>>38

"Anthro" just means "Animal with human features". It is different from "furry" in that "furry" has cultural conotations now (good or bad).

If something containing anthropomorphic animals stands alone, unassociated with the rest of the fandom for anthropomorphic animals, it could be called "anthro". Whereas if you are associated with that fandom, you're furry. Like it or not.

Also, I linked to the cover of Redwall (i.e, one book), not the rest of the books set in that world that basically do the same thing less effectively.

Of course, when I said it was "the best" I was just being smug, and didn't expect everyone to agree with me. But some ten or twelve years after first reading it it's still one of my favorite books.

It's simple but beautiful, as any fairytale should be.

>>41

What you just said nulls the "no" at the beginning of your post.

"Anthro" is short for "anthropomorphic animal". Hence, an "anthro" is an animal with human features, and something is "anthro" if it contains such characters. We seem to be in agreement.

However, this does not make it a synonym for "furry" because "furry" has uses beyond this; those associated with the fandom ("furry culture", or "jim is a furry").

Hence, the only time it is correct to use "anthro" and incorrect (or less preferable) to use "furry" is when something involves anthropomorphic animal characters but does not involve any of the other conotations of the word.

For example, I could say "Star Fox is an anthro video game, not a furry video game.

If you're talking about old-school furry culture though, that qualifies as furry. Saying "We are anthro fans, not furries" in that particular context is wrong.
And saying "We are anthro, not furry" doesn't make sense in any context.

Umm than whats the diffrence between furry and anthro?

What cutural connotations?

I thought they where the same thing.

>>42

Never mind the semantics, or the 'correct' dictionary definitions of the words; I'm telling you what the words mean in terms of the fandom, and, as is the case in any fandom, the words take on a new life of their own with only the thinest of connections to any real life lexicons.  In other words, it's 'fanspeak'.

I'm well aware that 'furry' has come to mean many things beyond just anthropomorphic arts; you're telling me nothing new.  In fact, the very fact that it's come to mean so many things beyond its original application has been the source for many headaches in the fandom for the past ten to fifteen years now.  I'm explaining to you why a segment of the fandom decided to use the word 'anthro' as a means of distancing themselves from the unfortunate sexual connotations the word 'furry' also grew to convey.  Believe me, there was a whole big argument about the whole thing when it first came up a decade ago, and it was further agitated by a few individuals who tried to point out that there really wasn't any difference and tried to further blur the distinctions by calling it 'anthrofurry'.

You can easily apply the word 'furry' to any anthropomorphic animal work you want, and you'd be essentially correct; but understand that those who call themselves 'anthros' or use the word 'anthro' when referring to their work, are deliberating distancing themselves from material and practices they find objectionable because they don't want to be associated with the sexual connotations the term 'furry' has accumulated.

So in the general 'furry fandom' fanspeak, 'Furry' tends to mean anything it wants, and in general refers to adult material, while 'Anthro' refers to G and PG furry works and those with an interest in the same.

If you doubt that, try googling up furry' and 'anthro' websites; you'll find that the furry sites will pretty much run the gamut, but the anthro sites will more often than not be family friendly.

(This, of course, completely overlooks those who don't participate in either and retain the original 'funny-animal' or 'bigfoot cartoon' labels.)

>>47

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>>41
No it doesn't. Anthropos means 'man.' Hence anthropo-morphic, anthropo-logy, anthropo-centrism, anthropic principle, etc.

>>49
Nah, I think only furries in denial hate people like that. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, fuck you, I'm a dragon!

>>51
i would have stopped after his first reply.

also, you people seem to be off-topic....

Just to clear up 36's comment... Second Life is NOT a furry game. It started out human. The furries came in later!

>>54
>>55

Yes, but the furry community within the game is pretty well established, and has become one of the hubs of the furry community.

I don't remember the name of it offpaw, but there is a 'serious' minded 'yiffy' (I hate the word but it does describe the sex) scifi warstory involving a fox or wolf named Rafe(there was a love triangle between a fox, a rabbit, and a wolf). The combat isn't all that good actually, bloody version of SatAM cartoons of yore, a little better on the dogfights (as in spaceships) but the furries have the same urges as real animals, and, unable to escape their primal calls even in an age of science, have different ways of dealing with the hormone/pheromone overload.

It was a pretty interesting read, and the largest con against it is I remember it was unfinished, no new updates for 3 years (discovered it in 2004ish). Anyone know what it was? I'd like to read it again, and also submit it as my suggestion. If he would just take some higher english classes to get around the repetition, and maybe play some realistic wargames/fpses/flight sims he could fix all that was wrong with it very easily.

>>58
I have a nagging feeling that you're a troll. Still, the idiocy present in your post is giving me the sort of headache that may end in burst blood vessels, so I'm going to have to ask you to kindly leave the internet.

>>60
*nags*