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>>97
The Anime fandom has even more people with repressed sexualities - pedophiles with a lolicon fetish, weirdos who like tentacle rape, etc. And there is a ton of pornographic doujin produced every year, and there are many popular anime internet forums with rampant posting of hentai. But, there is so much clean and professional anime and manga that it's entirely possible to be an anime fan and avoid the porn and perverts if you want to. There is so much clean and professional anime and manga that the public image of the anime fandom is generally thought of as harmless geeks who watch girly Japanese cartoons, not the pedophiles and rapists who inhabit that fandom.

Even the Harry Potter fandom conceals a ton of perverts and porn. Most Harry Potter fan fiction is gay "shipping" (Harry+Snape, Harry+Ron, Snape+Dumbledore). I bet you didn't know that because you think of it by the professional works (the books and movie) and not the fan works. But if people saw that side of their fandom first, instead of the books and movies, then Harry Potter would probably be considered just as dirty and perverted as furries.

A problem is that furry is the only fandom that rejects professionally produced material - the "Disney movies aren't furry because a fan didn't make them" attitude. That's BS. Sci-fi fans don't say "Star Trek movies aren't really science fiction because Paramount made them". Most anime fans don't say "Naruto isn't real anime because Cartoon Network shows it". Therefore, unlike almost every other fandom, the furry fandom doesn't have a proverbial rug to sweep the dirt under.

>>94

Telling people that the furry fandom isn't mainly about porn is a lie, and so is saying "a few of us like yiff but they're a really small minority." 

It's the overwhelming majority and the furry fandom wouldn't even exist if it weren't centered around porn.

As of 2010.04.29, of all the submissions to FA, 76% were clean, 11% mature and 13% adult. That's almost 2.2 million clean submissions to bit over 300 thousand of each type of mature.

Source: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3782954

And the ratio has been improving. 2009.01.27, that was 65% clean, 16% mature and 19% adult. ( http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1932796#cid:14580554 )


And finally, someone made some charts based on the data (note the percentages are different because they count deleted submissions as well): http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3890306/

>>102

Seeing as how FA doesn't even allow actual porn, I don't see how that counts.

I have to say, Blotch's Nordguard project, which seems to be a CLEAN trilogy of graphic novels looks promising. Who says good clean art isn't dead? I always think that they (Kenket and BlackTeagan, for those who don't know Blotch is two people) enjoy clean art more than yiff but were pressured in to get more popularity.

106 umn yah sure and if you buy that i have a bridge to sell you.

If all the porn in the fandom vanished tomorrow, there would be no fandom. Sorry, but no one gives a rat fuck about a drawing of a furry in a full set of clothing doing mundane everyday things. Hell, most people don't give a damn about a drawing of a HUMAN in clothes doing mundane shit. Novels, comic books,  and "graphic novels" won't do anything about it. More people would see it if you just put it on YouTube. So the fandom's nothing but a fethis, so what? Who the hell wants to sit around and talk about Balto when you could be looking at Balto porn? We're not an internet joke because of our fetish, we're a joke because 99.9% of furry artists think their shit is gold and that they could shit on paper and make it an artistic milestone. THAT is the "problem" we need to do something about.

>>111

Fans of those things are just fans of "cartoons."

Except Sabrina Online, but they all wanted porn of her and they got what they wanted so it doesn't count.

If they're not into porn there's no reason for them to call themselves furries- they're just cartoon or fantasy fans. The term furry only exists because it denotes the pornographic aspects as opposed to the aspects that are already part of the mainstream and have been forever.

I sort of skimmed over this whole thing. There seems to be a lot of controversy on both sides of the fence.

Personally, I find both the pornographic and spiritual (yes, spiritual) aspect of being furry enjoyable. I've been a part of the fandom for almost ten years, and the reason I made the decision to associate myself personally with a type of animal wasn't because I wanted to boink it, but because I felt a spiritual connection with that animal, hence why I chose my fur-type. I have friends (real people who I spend time with) who are of the same mind. It honestly wasn't until probably two or three years into my involvement with the furry fandom that I really got into the pornographic aspect, and though I enjoy it, it's not the primary reason for my participation in the fandom. If it all evaporated one day, I'd be fine. Porn is porn, I can get it anywhere.

While I do agree that a lot of people join the fandom for the porn, I also believe that most people in the fandom aren't actually furry. They're just fans, who like porn, and can be really, really mentally disturbed o_o...

Anyway, nobody has to believe me, or care, but there are true furries out there that have a spiritual connection to their animal side, and choose to be furry for that connection, and not because they like to watch anthropomorphic creatures screwing, and I'm one of them.

There are also alot of people who join for the 'community', realize what bullshit it is and get burnt out by it, and just hang around for the porn.

>>115

About 15 minutes on the internet

>>116

You can believe anything you want, but no belief has the right to be respected on its own. That being said, you can worship animals all you want and call it being furry, while I'll fap to the art that turns me on and not give a damn if anyone considers it furry or not.

>>123

It's mainly because some individuals misrepresent what the furry fandom is about. When people find out that there actually isn't really anything to it after you get bored of the porn and murrsona commissions they get pissed.

>>117

I said spiritual, not religious. You can have a spiritual connection with something and not believe in god or religion.

What it means is that there are people who feel an honest connection with the animal they associate with, and there are those who are only in the fandom for the purpose of fapping to furry porn. Those who are true furries are not so for porn, but because of this connection.

>>112
No one says you have to look at hentai to call yourself an anime fan. No one says you have to read Harry+Snape slash-fiction to call yourself a Harry Potter fan. Why should the standard be any different for furry fans?

>>123

"Why is this a controversy? If all the yiff on the internet dissapeared and everyone in the world had their minds wiped clean of furries, within ten minutes someone out there would say 'I bet Krystal would look hot naked' and start fapping."

And Tails, you can't forget about him. I was pretty young when I had my first naughty thoughts about that lil fox. Hell, anything cute enough and aesthetically pleasing to people is bound to arouse them.

>>131

...actually, I think I understand you better. At first I thought you meant that things like coprophilia and necrophilia were somehow natural.

>>133

Now we're thinking like animals ^_^

>>133

Actually I would say that survival is the driving force of life. It is the root of food (eating to survive) and reproduction (the species / my DNA survives)

Survival has been proven to be the main instinct that shapes all others.