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Omit your line layer or paint over the lines. Leaving a hint of them there might work, if they look like they were traditionally painted on (usually much easier to do if they're thick and globby).

Try thinking of your tool as a paintbrush. Have you ever painted traditionally? What with?
My experimentation is limited, so I haven't much messed with custom made brushes that attempt to emulate traditional ones. For technique itself, using a higher opacity and a hard brush tends to lead an image to look like it's been done with acrylic... it kind of feels more like using acrylic too, ultimately thicker and not as smooth as oil...

In this picture, the chain in the midground looks very digital, due to the completely solid completely opaque round brush used. The edges are just too crisp. The one in the background has a couple areas like that too.
The one in the front is pretty good but I don't have much of an eye for having blurry acrylic... hyper-tom's really good at it though, but he uses an airbrush. http://hyper-tom.deviantart.com/art/Deja-Vu-89307604

For the character, maybe work on blocking in the area instead of relying on lines to convey the edges. Paint the form from the silhouette.
Always use the biggest possible brush for rendering, and add the sweet details in last, including any useage of black or white.

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>>562

Hello there Deatzh, thank you very much for the input, it's pretty spot on I think.

To answer your question, I have painted traditionally, with just about everything you could think of (watercolor, oil, acrylic, gouache, and some temper paints.) For my character here I didn't really use a round brush, I used a chalk brush set to become more opaque with higher pen pressure. One of the things I have been trying to get a grasp on in my recent work is having that subtle layer of texture there to help it not look digital, at the same time I am not really looking to emulate real world painting...for that I would use painter XI or something.

Your deer painting does look very much like acrylic paint thanks to all the hard edges,

Also, one of my weaknesses in illustration for a long time has been relying on line a little too much :3 So, you are right... I did paint over them to try and make them blend a bit better though, none of the line work is black.

Well, thanks again, I hope some of what I said makes sense :S. If you thin of anything else let me know!

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>>536

forgot one thing... here is the same piece without any linework.

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And inevitably:

Eh, turns out i couldn't leave it alone after all...

Did a lot of skuff on the skin, a bit on the feathers and nothing so far on the horns.

With the skin i'm relatively happy so far, except for one patch on the neck.
The feathers definitely need more work but i'm a bit unsure how to continue.

Request for comments still stands of course (or i wouldn't be posting it here)

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Ummm, I'm not Deatz, but can you make just a character sheet (also in b/w only) and post it here?

It's hard to say something on a race design, with only a 3/4 head view.

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Who are you? You seem familiar.

You really need to get some basics of anatomy down. Search for and study reference material, some of which is provided above. Skeletal structure, muscular structure, fat deposits and then flesh. It sounds more difficult than it is, although it is horribly tedious. It is also horribly enjoyable, and I can't see why one would forego anatomical studies.

Stay away from color, you need to get the basics of value down as well. Plus the white highlighting on the character makes her look like rubber, and in this case it's really not all that appealing.

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>>565
Thanks for the advices deatzh.

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This, too.

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And this guy, of course.

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And to finish, something creepy and anorexic. Huzzah.

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By crit section you mean "Everyone that's not Deatzh" because you still totally came to me for general help with half of these, Lol.

AND I HAVE ALREADY TOLD YOU THINGS SO MY POSTING IN YOUR THREAD IS KIND OF POINTLESS.
oops

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>>563
Actually, yeah, that's pretty accurate. xD
And I am most definitely grateful for it. c:

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I'd rather have you take a look at this picture, since In my opinion it's better in terms of art. Thanks.

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You still looking for help on this?

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>>244 Her breasts are very flat, they should be a bit more round, May I redline?

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Well, what jumps out at me most is how long her legs are. Judging by the size of your character's head, this would make her about...8 1/2, 9, or even 9 1/2 heads high. That is tall. The ideal for realistic proportions for a girl is I think 7 1/2 heads high. So I would shorten the legs considerably. I don't get the pose, though. It's kind of dynamic, but I don't know what makes an archer shoot while striking this pose. Maybe if you brought in the extended leg and set her other foot down on a rock or something, that would make more sense, and it would balance her out. It looks like you know a little anatomy, but the line on her extended shin and the lines that define her torso don't make a lot of sense. I would look for a few references to make sure you're defining those correctly. Also, is the garment she's wearing really tight to make that kind of cleavage? Or is it looser than that? Not getting a clear idea there.

That's about as much as I can pick out, hope that helps.

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Thanks for your notes. It didn't really occur to me that she looked so tall to begin with, but looking at it again I noticed you might be right. I can't help but think that it fits her being so tall though...she's supposed to be amazonian-ish, but for the sake of realism I'll see what I can do to shorter her up and make her anatomy look a bit more correct. I know her pose looks really odd, but I didn't really have a set pose to work from when I started, which might explain a lot...

As for her clothing, yes, she's supposed to be in really tight leather, so her breasts get pressed that close; I really didn't outline her clothing really well in this piece. I'll try and have a more up-to-date piece up as soon as I can.

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Ok, so here's the next outline I have. I posted another work of mine up here earlier, so I thought I keep up the postings. I know beforehand this character looked a little tall, but I decided it wasn't really too much of an issue and kept with her. I followed your advice and changed her footing to be a big ol' boulder, and finally got in her armor and actual clothing. Like before, she;s a amazonish archer, so I mostly clothed her in wood/tree bark and leather, with a few gold fittings and jewels.

I'm really not sure I like her bow all that much. I wanted it to be a bizarre sort of double-bow, but it just looks too plain to me. Since she lives in the forest, I guest it's natural for it to look pieced together and sort of jury-rigged, but it's also supposed to have a violent, war appearance.

There aren't any shades down yet, and as of now I'm working on getting her colored in, so maybe when I finish that she'll look a bit more finished. Right now it gets kind of confusing as to what she's doing, what parts go to what object, and how they relate together. Overall I rather like how she turned out, and I'll hopefully have a finished color version up sometime in the next few days.

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>>430 Sorry, forgot to upload the image with my last post. Here you go. Again, just black on white lines here.

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And now in color.

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Actually you know what?
This shit keeps piling up and it's pretty much overwhelming. If you want help, make a post in your thread about it. Be like, "Help me, PERSON WITH THE D NAME!"

Otherwise I'm just going to ignore stuff beyond a certain point. There's too much, mang. Too much. And I'm damn sick of retyping the same stuff over and over again. Maybe will make something to upload and send people to it when I feel like repeating the same dribble.

XENO I NEED TO TALK TO YOU SOMETIME BUT I KEEP FORGETTING TO GET ON IRC I AM SORRY

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Here's a start.

Fascinating how shrinking it down removes a lot of the artifacts. I guess I'll have to mention it in like two months when I get over to your post.

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The back looks very short and the twist very sudden. It is most likely due to how much of the flat of his back we are seeing as well as that arc across his ribcage.

The back leg, the one with the final portion of the leg facing us, could probably be stretched out more to show the length of the leg and generally make it more appealing. Foreshortening can be epic, but in this case it's somewhat unnecessary. While it may be more plausible for him to angle the leg toward us, it's a rule that you can break for artistic reasons.

In general, the picture looks awkward. I feel that this actually enhances the image, given the content, and you can exaggerate it by giving the image a bit more of a tilt in any one direction, see what makes it more uncomfortable and go with it.

I would like to see whatever your finished or at least most completed version of this, as I like it on an aesthetic level.