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Art critique and advice; beginner artists are welcome to post here; includes an oekaki. (NO FLAMES)

Artists, read before posting!

Before you post your art to ask for critique, please read these tutorials. They explain the basic principles of drawing and figure drawing. Most posts where these basics are missing will never get a response, as people are quite frankly sick and bored of explaining over and over that you would have to pretty much learn how to draw first, before you could improve.

Courtesy of Arne Niklas Jansson: Basic and comprehensive drawing and painting tutorial
Courtesy of Bakaneko: Figure Drawing Basics, Further Anatomy, Hands

These were brought to my attention by Aeresque#Artist. Courtesy of Scribd: Drawing the Human head, Drawing Dynamic Hands, Dynamic Figure Drawing
And for those of you who want it a bit easier, we also have the whole thing as one neat rar with all three books in pdf form.

NEW! These were brought to my attention by MajorTom in #fchan. Courtesy of Andrew Loomis: Creative Illustration, Drawing the Head and Hands, Eye Of The Painter, Figure drawing for all it's worth, Fun with a Pencil, Successful Drawing, Drawing Dynamic Hands.

If you think you know a good basic tutorial that would fit in here, feel free to contact me under Xenofur in IRC and I will add the link.





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[-] [+] No.1721
ok, lets give this a try 
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Source: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/arkanumzilong/

alright... gonna give this place a try

I just started drawing last year, but have been coloring for a little longer
and I would like to know what you all think of my art so far
and also if my coloring works are worth commission services (according to some of my friends they are, but others say I am not good enough)

more pictures still to be uploaded, btw

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Source: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/fydbac

and the final image
NOT drawn by me but by artist fydbac ( http://www.furaffinity.net/user/fydbac ) but that was colored by me
an image I commissioned from them from one of my characters

its one of the most recent coloring works I have done on images not drawn by me.

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>>1726 why was this deleted?
its an alternate version of the image it was originally under
drawn by me, and I am sure I am not in the dnp list since all my other pictures are still around



[-] [+] No.1713
Would you Commission Me? 
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Source: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/jackiethekitten/

I'm just asking for an opinion. I want to know if my work, to you, is acceptable to be bought. I'm not trying to force anybody or 'tectnically' advertise my work. I am just curious and wanting to know what other people think and their opinions ^^
I put the basic prices beside them so if I am asking for to much or to less you guys can tell me~

I also take advise/Criticism! I love to improve ^///^

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Yus. It iz gud! Very gud :3



[-] [+] No.1617
The process of making furry art? 
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I really need to know how furry art is made. I'm generally new to doing this and very amateur when it comes to making it even in the most professional way. My example would be my first and so far only art I've made. http://www.furaffinity.net/full/9209540/

So this is what I need to know :
The average time it takes to make furry art
What programs are used to make it
The optimal size to make one

P.S. If this isn't the right place to post such a thread, please point me to the right place. Thanks.

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Are you interested in actually becoming a proficient artist, or are you just looking to doodle animal-people that get your rocks off?

If the former, the following are things you do not need to concern yourself with right now:
-The average time it takes to make ANY art
-Programs
-Optimal size of a digital work

I'd like to bring out the programs point a little more.
YOUR TOOLS WILL NEVER MAKE YOU A GOOD ARTIST.
They will never magically make you better, nor more accepted, nor make your work more or less appealing. Tools are tools, all the programs people use are just tools.
There is a good tool to start with though: pencil and paper. You know how to write already, you know how to use that tool to translate what is in your mind efficiently to paper. While some people can pull out amazing pieces with a mouse, it's physically unhealthy to use one. Until you get a tablet, stick with traditional means. Pencil and paper.

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Thanks for the info. I already have a tablet and such which I should of mentioned in my original post. I am using Photoshop for now. It has been doing fine except that I can't really do smooth shading. It always has to be a brush that seems sharp even with hardness at 0. If you know a good program that does just about what I need, please tell me about this. Or if you just know a way to make those smooth shadows in Photoshop, inform me of that instead.

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>>1622
Pic related should help with making smooth shadows. In short, don't use a hard brush. And don't abuse the blend tool (that's a common mistake for beginners). Make your shading as smooth as possible, and then and only then should you use the blend tool.

The way I paint in photoshop most resembles oil painting, since that's my background. Like the first guy said, just learn to sketch traditionally. Your knowledge of anatomy is absolute shit, and before you can shade you need to understand value. Learn the fundamentals first. Read the sticky here, or the one on 4chan's /ic/ board.

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I think you're mostly asking the wrong questions in terms of moving forward with your art. Any answers you get on here may be good things to try out but it's up to you which methods you're most comfortable with. You are in the right place though, this is a good thread to have in general.

Doesn't matter how long it takes. Take as long as you need to make something you're comfortable with calling finished. Could be 10 minutes, could be days, whatever.

Doesn't matter what program you use either. Anything that lets you draw in any way is fine. I even cut my teeth in Flash to begin with even though it's far from you'd consider an illustrating program. Try out as many programs as you want, it's all free to pirate.

Now, it can kind of matter what size it is though. The best advice I've ever received is to make a gigantic canvas (larger than 2000x2000) and sketch wth it fit to your screen. That way when you ink you can zoom all the way in till the one single line you want to draw next covers your whole screen. Do it in one long sweeping motion, undo, repeat, undo, repeat, etc. until you end up with one individual line that fits that part of your sketch. Zoom out periodically to see how it looks but you'll find you don't really need to very often.

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[-] [+] No.1699
Litzy 
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I like know you opinion about her design.
Its for a fighting comic.
In Clean you have more pics of her.

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>>1703
The design is decent. It's simplistic. The blue could be broken up a tad with something as simple as a couple lines, but the belt works fine in that regard. Now, of all you went on a tangent about you neglected to mention how the belt was hanging far too loosely from the hips to actually sustain it's current location. Your opinion is indeed negative, but you failed to show you knew how to do anything besides say it was bad.
Considering this is a fighter, the outfit is viable. The belt and pouch seems to be an extremely reasonable way to carry things. The only thing is, for realism, it could be a tad tighter around the waist. The colors are a tad jarring, a good idea is to mute them a tad.

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>>1705

It's not like I have to hold their hand through every step of the design process. Someone says the belt is hanging too low. First thought to come to mind? Make it tighter so that it's reasonably supported. If someone can't figure that out on their own, then maybe they shouldn't be drawing.

Art isn't always about handholding. :p

And my critique was mostly negative because, in my opinion, it's a bad character design, and that's reflected in how I write. They also didn't mention whether or not this character was an important character or not, so how are we to determine whether or not the design is simplistic enough to the character's relevance in the story? If they were important, maybe then would the ear hair actually make some viable sense, as it adds to the clarity of the silhouette of a character. However, if they aren't going to have much of a role in the story, then it would be distracting to have those on there, as it would make them more distinguishable and more of a focus than anything else.

Major characters vs Minor characters 101, the major characters usually have more recognizable features than minor characters, and the ear tuffs are going to be distracting.

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>>1707
Sorry, it looks like you don't know what you're talking about. Sorry for bothering you.

OP, please ignore this guy's posts

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>>1709

Really? How can you go about discrediting my opinion? I accepted your critique with gusto. I believed that it was better than mine in that it offered more positive criticism, and ways to improve it, whereas mine simply pointed out the flaws. I can't change what I've already posted. However, it does not mean that what I have said is WRONG, or that I don't know what I'm talking about. Because I do. That's why I graduated with an art major. I guess I just never learned the skills to be a good judge. :p

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Guys, calm down.

In first time, if I request critiques, all people are free of say everything that he/she have in the mind.
Ones can be bad others good, but all the points of view I must read. You can do disscuss about the critiques but always with the respect to the opinion/critiques of others persons.

And now the more important: Litzy.
>>1703:
I test differents colors in the design, the red its impossible of change because I see like the ideal color of the character and for the name. And later dark blue its for give her a form of view that she no is very female. Anyway, Ill test more colors.
And the bag its only an accessory of travel, in the nexts pics (you can see the Clean section of Fchan) you can see that she dont have the bag.
And the tails, you dont believe it, it can be give her more agility like the ailerons of a F1.

>>1705
Thank you so much for the fanart. This is great!! =)

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[-] [+] No.1571
Feedback please! 
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The waist is intentionally skinny.

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Just because.

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Ah, are what are you trying to do with that chair?
>>1685
And you stop, that's hardly any better



[-] [+] No.1696
Help? 
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I've recently gotten into drawing adult anthro art, including bondage pics. I'm still having trouble with rope and how breasts/etc are suppose to act to being binded. I've looked up references but I still think my art is missing something. Help?

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Well, it's simple enough to do rope and breasts, you have to remember the shapes and volume of both. It tends to be that in bondage, the rope will press firmly into the skin. This creates little rises of skin on either side of the rope. Now, the breasts, their being bound will be similar to being in a bra. They'll be pushed on any side that's bound by rope, if all four sides are bound then they'll normally become more spherical. Essentially you just have to think of a water balloon pinched at a certain point.

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>>1704 Thank you very much! C=



[-] [+] No.1517
Ponies! 
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I started this last year. Due other projects, I never finished it. Should I even bother?

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I like the style,I think Twilight though should show just a little bit of tooth. It may look less cute,but would seem like she is actually gripping the sword.

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Your hair is amazing. How'd you make that?

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i like it so far, the tooth, idk, maybe a bit of it, as for the rest... mmh, i'll like to see the bg to see how it goes!

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>>1655

holy crap, this is still here. Um okay I'll see if i can draw up a small step by step tut on how I did the hair

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This is amazing! the eyes are gorgeous. I see no issue with the twilight sparkle.



[-] [+] No.1678
My attempts 
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Hello, I started my "adventure" with tablet few weeks ago and this is my latest work.
I drew it in paint, got photoshop but I cant get used to it. And I have some nasty habits from using pencils and only sketching.
Could I ask you to critique and maybe some advices how to make my works more visable and clear? Even as an author I have problems to see details sometimes.

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Don't know about photoshop, but sai is an incredibly easy and intuitive tool for sketching and linearting. Check it out and draw something with pressure sensitivity, you'll see the difference.
Also, stop with the chicken scratching, man. I think you know very well yourself that's the main reason your sketches don't look as clear as they could. You'll have to get used to drawing with longer and smoother lines eventually. Have more confidence in your drawing!

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OP here, thanks about sai annon, pretty nice program. I gave it a try and made this art "recently", unfortunetly I dont have time to finish (alot of welding courses in this and next month...) , and its not furry related - still its made by same person and hopefully shows something more.



[-] [+] No.1626
Kittenz--- 
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Source: me

What do u think about it?
clothes, hair, face
also:
Lines, anatomy,...
I will add some details to her clothes/jewelry when i start colorin
Started as a "learning-doodle" so I didnt finish the legs.

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i like it! i loved her ears, so cute! here's my advice, the hair: needs practice, movement, it needs to be flowy! that's all i'll say... there's plenty of tutorials in deviantart, try to look at them if you want!

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>Started as a "learning-doodle" so I didnt finish the legs.

Yep I'm gonna learn how to draw a thing by avoiding drawing a part of the thing
that'll totally work.

Read that thing at the top.

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>>1672

You don't know what you're talking about.

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Raise the clothes at the sleeves; make sure that one side of the chin mirrors the other; round the hands(disclaimer that I only know what it should start to resemble*no ref); define the characters contours from shapes that angle away from the viewer like the abs; same with the crotch area, don't forget the leg has a but, so that thigh gap ,unfortunately does not receive negative space; The anterior muscles of the leg should be round, or this will make it harder to see the angle of the leg; the jeans pocket on their right side should not really show up; shorten their left eye, it doesn't seem to match the length of the one on their right.
That's as best I can suggest. This is just what I would do though. Good luck!



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Anatomy Help 
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This is one of my first anthro picture's I've done that I have actually liked, could someone critique and/or red line it? I would love to learn my strengths and weaknesses. Thanks ^^

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The hands should be larger,especially the males. His arm also seems short. You can't really tell her neck from her chest. His pants also look furry.
Look at and reference from human anatomy guides,and study people which includes yourself and then apply it to anthro characters.

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so cute! i like it so far, well, the rest has been said, i'll add something about the shoulders... agh i dunno how to explain it without image tutorials, but you need to draw it like more looking down... arms looks stiff too! but it can be easily resolved by using curvy lines
action lines, don't be afraid on using them, it always helps!!
of course study anything about constructing anatomy first to know how to apply action lines later
remember folds are important too, always take references! don't be afraid

about the shading... contrast, use alot of colors to make it more fun, but also make a balance between lights n' stuff, something long to study too, but slowly you'll be getting it!



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