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>>250

Shortly after posting the pic above. I realized I made her right leg too short than her left. So here's the pic after the fix.

x_x Sorry about that.

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>>251

I know, I know. I'm not messing with the line art anymore after this. I fixed that leg one last time and I swear this time I'm done. >.>

Next time I post I'll have color in it, promise.

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I have to admit, I liked the leg how it was before you 'fixed' it. It was a little small, but it appeared much more comfortable and natural.

Head is a bit big, proportionally. Should be shrunk a little.

The blowing coat is kind of confusing. It doesn't seem to match between her sleeves and the back. Either the sleeves should show direction, or the back should be down a significant amount.

Now the thing that stands out the most in this, at least for what feels off, is the hand work. The far one is too small, even for the perspective (it feels absolutely tiny next to her breast, and even if she's pulling something more than C her hands would still be of comparable size to them - speaking of the breast, the far one goes up too far atop the pec, making it look larger than the one close to us), and the near one is at a rather bad angle. There is no pressure from her hand on that staff and the wrist would have to be twisted to a breaking point to achieve that particular angle.

Perspective of the tip of the spearthing feels off too, at least at the portions where we're seeing more than one side of it.

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And I just noticed her navel is way low.

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>>206
Ha-ha, you should draw porn or penises to get criticized here fast. ;)

On a serious note, you could use a good anatomy book to learn how legs and pelvis interact in different positions. Plus, I see you've hidden her fingers in the mittens. I suppose it's cold in the picture, but don't avoid drawing fingers, this way you'll learn it faster.

Regarding cloth, the only way is to watch how it folds in real life. Just go outside and watch it on people noticing how light is arranged, i's not so easy, but its worth it.

Everything else seems to be okay, except minor errors: her head looks too wide, or too low, I dunno, her hair doesn't look good enough. And there's no shading on the picture. :(

Hope, it helps.

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>Ha-ha, you should draw porn or penises to get criticized here fast. ;)

Haha! No.

We'd only tell him/her off faster.

And I just haven't bothered here much recently.

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Still looking for help on this?

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>>257

Learn the cardinal rule.
Do not draw explicit nudes or porn until you've mastered clean art.

This fandom has enough shittily drawn cock and ass as it is, don't add to the disease anymore than, or Deatzh will strike you down like the eternal nub that you are.

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where's the neck?
why does it have no neck?

Why did you steal bolt's face and beat it up?

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It wasn't intended as an explicit nude really. The fact that he is naked came mostly from the fact that I just can't draw clothes. At all. The folds just throw me so bad I didn't feel like posting my attempt.

Also, if his face resembles Bolt's (who?) at all, it is purely coincidental.

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>>261

And you somehow justified adding the shitty penis... why?

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First and foremost, I apologize in any case that I am terribly unclear, come off as bitchy (more than normal?), if I use too many commas and/or verbs. Prose has not had a front seat in my recent dealings, so it's... out of practice.

ABLOO

On with this trash.
As mentioned by Anon, the head is a bit big. I'm a little bothered by the muzzle shape. Do a google image-search on whatever species you're most strongly basing this from, there should be something there to reference. Or if you have a larger dog (I get the feeling it's something somewhat similar to a large canine head), reference from his/her face.
The outer edges around the eyes seem rather round too, and the forehead seems a tad on the small side. Ultimately, it's not stylistically unappealing, but you should stick with the grounds of realism right now.

I don't really have any gripes about the shoulders. You referenced from a photo of yourself? Did a fairly decent job of following the form and contour with it, supposing you didn't throw any tracing in there (and even if you did I can't say I really give a damn, as you've stated you have and if it's a photo of you it's not using anyone else's work anyway).

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Hoping im on better way now :P.

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>>209>>210

K, then just stick with this:

quick checklist:
Step 1) Draw your gestures to make sure you like the pose.
Step 2) 80% of the 'boring thinking' gets done here. Draw a see-through character with only essential foundation details.
Step 3) Fun time with more solid finished lines. Continue to correct proportional mistakes by comparing body parts' sizes, angles, weights, and negative space to the entire picture.
Step 4) Cleaned-up linework. With practice, this step will be practically mindless.

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>>210
Ok done with this one....
Hope it's better.
Maybe i'll add enviorment later.

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>>213

This lacks impact and dynamism.

It feels like some prankster in a fursuit went and stole a church's lawn ornament. It's expressing a severe case of chameleon eyes and the digitigrade legs look like ankles joined at the knees.

I'll see if I can rework this but honestly, your drawing ain't showing enough OOMPH.

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>>213

The character is carrying what appears to be a heavy object with extremely strong leverage. This would normally cause someone to turn and bend, to lean in more than a few directions, in an attempt to help support the weight better.

You can find refs for this all over the place, or ask a friend to pick up something heavy and watch how their posture changes.

The only other thing I have to say, well their right arm appears to be violating spacetime. I'm sure you've noticed that the right wrist appears a little strange - then fix it. Instead of putting their arm in bodybuilder-showoff pose, put the elbow down more, and turn the arm more toward the front of the body. This is a more natural position for someone to hold something, and the wrist will look a little more natural if their palm is pressed against the base of the cross.

Hope it helps!

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For the sake of clarity, I'm fixing your grammatical and spelling errors while quoting you, because it's borderline unreadable in some cases. Chill the hell out so you don't spew shit all over the place, seriously.

>What the hell is your problem?

Good question. Also, it's not really my problem, as you have obviously overreacted to what I said, because I guarantee you it's nothing to get wholly upset over.

>I'm just trying to design an art piece in the correct manner.

You have a lot of work to do, then, considering how inconsistent the lines are. Some of them seem appropriate for a sketching phase, some do not.

>This is not the finished piece.

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>>160 hmm im angry with your responce toward me but im hearing what your saying

alright ill chill but i would have prefered if i just got help without any problems

i may not have decent grammer or puctuation but im at least trying

anyway thanks for responding i think ill post this on furr affinity and work on my art

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>>159

You also cannot select who views your shit either. Once you post it to a public place, it's a free-for-all and you're helpless to stop it.

deal with it.
/crit/ has had enough of you porn noob types polluting this board everyday.

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I'm not even going to bother red lining this. The OP's attitude as a whole just doesn't make me want to help out at all.

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Now now lets all play nice, Equinox if you are still visiting this thread my advice to you is chill, true dedicated Sonic artist are a rare breed nowadays, specially ones that can take bull from others who simply don't tolerate our side of the fandom, considering some of those who criticize you started finding their furry either with Sonic chars or heck even Sonic Porn they found on Google...(v___v)

now...as for your pic, the angles are well done, don't forget center of gravity and as for Rouge proportions relax, making Rouge huge on both departments is not really the main objective, since you are working on a two character plane, still keep working on this pic and never give up no matter how much bull you get, remember the old internet proverb

~Do not feed the Trolls - It means they win...

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>>245

she looks off balance mainly because of the way her arms are fluttering around her left leg has disappeared and her right leg is a little odd, look for a center of gravity (make it so the weight of the body falls on the right leg and it should start to get into place

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>>177
Good work on cleanup, just try to focus on the process more. You appear to be in a rush to draw your favorite part(s) of the character; the chest and thighs.

Ground your character. In the initial sketch, plant the character onto a solid structure or ground. Keep weight, and the most appropriate and expressive pose, in mind. Use the least time consuming method for this as you should need to erase and redraw; stick figures or your preference, just try to hold off on the instant gratification of solidifying bits and pieces rather than the whole, it'll come together eventually.

Once you have a strong pose, rough in the structure. Ungrounded characters will usually result in weightlessness and skewed proportions. Though you're doing a good job of keeping the torso from being skewed, you have the predicament of having to figure out what the limbs will have to do to make the picture believable... and given that you've spent so much time cleaning what you have already; you probably aren't likely to sacrifice your time and effort to draw in limbs that cover or compromise what you initially focused on.

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>>196

I only wanted to cleanup to clearly see what I wanted his pose in; I've since been in a rough sketch.

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>>177

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Feels to me like the abs in the original sketch you posted are better than the ones in the latest. Hinting works for abs a lot more than absurd definition, since they're generally not that deep and defined anyway, especially if a character is sitting/relaxing and not simultaneously sucking in and flexing his stomach.

Subtlety is delicious.

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and some armor concept I'm working on. It's very basic at this point, but I'm hoping to pump it up with some more detail.

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The legs have too many joints in them.
They seem to be something more like a raptor, at least in the leg, so you should look up images of those to see how their legs work.

Jackals totally need to be punched in the face by the way. Recently played through Halo 3 again, finally on Heroic because I was a wuss prior. Hadn't realized how absurdly easy the game was in comparison with like every other FPS ever, but those fucking jackals with their sniping skills just pissed me off.

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Alright cool, I'll rework the legs a bit. Thanks for taking the time to crit.

And yeah I hear you, but without a doubt jackal snipers in Halo 2 were the worst. on Legendary, one hit kills regardless of a headshot or not, and THEY DO NOT MISS.

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Hey it's me again. Got a new picture I'd like to get crit on. I'm pretty much done with it, but I'd like to know what mistakes I made.

I can point out a few looking at it now. The wrist is fucked up, the sword's at a strange angle, and the ass is tilted at a weird angle. Shading was quick so it's a bit sloppy. Aside from that though, I wouldn't know what's wrong.

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>>227 love your shit on FA dude.

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Nice is relative. By not being mean, I consider myself nice. People consider my general bluntness as mean, apparently.
Lols
Anyway

You've got some anatomy studying to do before really worrying about colors. The fellow that's sitting down looks okay in some areas, but his far buttcheek is absurdly large compared to the near one, and the arm he has on the other fellow's head is lacking an upper portion completely. Feels like you reference a photo and had absolutely no clue what everything was, and/or why things looked defined in a certain way.
That's where understanding underlying structure is important. Some links above will aid on that (with Figure Drawing Basics having some decent... well... basics. I don't suggest the Loomis pack unless you're serious about art and don't have any other way to learn), and there are always medical diagrams you should be able to find with google images.

As for your methods.
Pick a way to line your picture and stick with it. You've got like three different pen tool methods going on as well as plain wiggly going-hella-slow regular brush and leftover pencil lines.
Also be careful with your layers. If you want solid visible lineart, you have to keep it above the colors.

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>>202 thanks man, some good tips there...there's a lot of stuff wrong with it I couldn't put my finger on and now it seems pretty obvious!

I'll take those to heart and do some more research; honestly, drawing on PC with a graphics pad and Photoshop feels totally unnatural to me, but I'll have to learn.

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1)
-You've got some rough spots. I'd suggest going over and brushing up on anatomy again. If you're having difficulty with anything that is not on your own body, google images isn't too far away. There are all sorts of winged and scaled creatures there with which to gather inspiration. A lot of the body on this seems like you drew symbols, things to represent a part, rather than that actual part. The head, the clavicles, hands, breasts, stomach, buttocks, knees and feet all seem to be the aforementioned symbols.
-The pose is pretty stiff and unnatural. I am not quite sure why she would bother to bend down like that. It's not particularly comfortable. Legs are way too far apart, back is too straight.
-Light and flexible should have smaller breasts. Having giant breasts is no good on a light and flexible frame. They move a lot, big ones weigh a lot, and having them bounce all over the place is terribly uncomfortable.

2)
-Seems like you're using a rather textured paper. It's never good for ink pens, and oftentimes the paper will tear and get lodged in the ball. Find something smoother (ie bristol, or better quality paper like in these overpriced sketchbooks).
-You'll want to work with the pen itself for a while, or a marker. Learn to not be bothered by potentially messing up, and suddenly your hand will be much steadier while inking something that you generally would worry about. It's all a matter of confidence, and you need to be wholly comfortable in the catches of the media to be confident in them. I suggest pages of sketchbooks filled with varying sorts of pen or marker drawings.

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