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Art critique and advice; beginner artists are welcome to post here; includes an oekaki. (NO FLAMES)

Artists, read before posting!

Before you post your art to ask for critique, please read these tutorials. They explain the basic principles of drawing and figure drawing. Most posts where these basics are missing will never get a response, as people are quite frankly sick and bored of explaining over and over that you would have to pretty much learn how to draw first, before you could improve.

Courtesy of Arne Niklas Jansson: Basic and comprehensive drawing and painting tutorial
Courtesy of Bakaneko: Figure Drawing Basics, Further Anatomy, Hands

These were brought to my attention by Aeresque#Artist. Courtesy of Scribd: Drawing the Human head, Drawing Dynamic Hands, Dynamic Figure Drawing
And for those of you who want it a bit easier, we also have the whole thing as one neat rar with all three books in pdf form.

NEW! These were brought to my attention by MajorTom in #fchan. Courtesy of Andrew Loomis: Creative Illustration, Drawing the Head and Hands, Eye Of The Painter, Figure drawing for all it's worth, Fun with a Pencil, Successful Drawing, Drawing Dynamic Hands.

If you think you know a good basic tutorial that would fit in here, feel free to contact me under Xenofur in IRC and I will add the link.





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[-] [+] No.85
are my photoshop skills in need of work? 
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you see being one who works with stepsiles on stepmania I need to make things in photoshop so I may have a visual for my players to enjoy right?
for example -sl-'s song electro food was made into a stepfile by me and you can now play it in stepmania.
how does this song's BG look to you?

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Not quite the God(dess, thx)... I'm only halfway decent about this stuff. :B

What is this thing you've posted? A modified picture?

It's got annoying 1/3 edges on it (see attached picture).
Dunno if you shrunk or enlarged it or what.

I honestly don't have a clue what you're doing, so... uh... can I have clarification please?

Unrelated and unimportant to anything, but I'm totally listening to some Latin Jazz right now, and this song totally has some inspirations from Coconut Champagne.

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>>95

ohh NVM.......XP apperently I must post a picture thats not full on photoshop or graphic design.

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>>101
What
Graphic design is fine to post, I just need to know what you're trying to accomplish.

Or if you're just going along and mutilating previously existing designs.

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>>103

this one is a cmpletely different one bud......it has no corrilation with the peviouspost except that they are backgrounds for songs made in stepmania that I created.

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>>113
I am not your bud.

What is "this one"? Where do you get the assumption that I thought they are somehow correlated, short from being both somehow related to music?



[-] [+] No.57
What's wrong here? 
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Personally, I don't see anything wrong with this, but I know that is a not a good thing because I know I should be able to see something wrong with it. It's a little frustrating that I can't...
See any problems?
Thanks.

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>>68

Probably is a troll. I've googled the book they mentioned and it doesn't exist, and the redline is so mindblowingly bad I refuse to believe it's real.

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>>83
Lol, I wanted to write that in my post, but didn't think anyone would get it.

>>68
I just saw the bulge on the front of that thing's pants.
...is... is that supposed to be a penis?

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>>68
OP- I may have actually taken it as a valid bit of criticism if it wasn't for the weeabo and redline...

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OP here again-
Am I the only one who does sketches with a tablet? It seems that most people only use their tablets for inking after scanning in a sketch they did with pencil...

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>>105
Nope. Most of my digital pieces are completely digital from the sketch point onward.

Occasionally I will draw something traditionally with the intention of finishing it digitally, but that's not all that often.

For some people it's probably just more convenient to sketch traditionally. It's possible they could have a smaller tablet and are just used to throwing their whole arm into the drawing (which is totally better, jo).



[-] [+] No.78
critique 
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Its been a while since I posted here,

Anyway I have trouble with hands gesters and porpotion and it kinda messes up the picture.
also any other redline/critique would be fantastic.

ps. I just noticed the new drawing hands tutorial, going have a look though that.

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Here's the coloured version aswell, Ive took the advice from a while back. to drop digital colouring and use pencils, but I dont know if I like the result or know.

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If you were given advice to drop digital coloring and use pencils, the implication was rather to drop digital media, and don't color at all. "Use pencils" being "use that wood/plastic thing with the lead/graphite in it to work on value."
Had we wanted you to use colored pencils, we would have stated that specifically.

It's certainly something I can add to this anyway.

I am not sure how you are building up your characters, but that process could likely use some work, given the end result. Basic proportions are very helpful.
Her head is a little large, but ignoring that: the upper torso and upper arms seems generally all right, but the lower we get while staying in those regions, the more off it gets.

She's missing part of her abdomen. It's just not long enough, and she really has no waist. It just seems to go from ribcage to love handles, with only a fold of flesh in between to indicate anything. That being said, her hips are too high.

The forearm closest to us is far too thick and short.

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[-] [+] No.70
Perspective and Shading critique 
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Source: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/2857543

Looking for some input on the perspective/shading used in this piece.

Any feedback is welcome. Thanks!

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It doesn't really feel like a very strong perspective, although the background does have a pretty decent one. The far side of the bed seems to be angled parallel to the close side, whereas it should be something in between the close side and the one on the wall. It currently makes Renamon look far too big for that bed.

I find your usage of hatching, crosshatching, and stippling interesting. It is decent. However, it could use more, particularly more definition from one thing to the next. The crosshatching on the far side of the bed seems out of place, and the nearly horizontal lines on the side of the sheet closest to us throw off the angle.

Renamon has some issues, anatomically. Her head seems oddly bulbous, her arms are short, her ribcage and stomach seem shaped weird and lack some definition and... oh...
I just realized she had a condom.
OKAY THEN
I first read it as masturbation. Should work on the placement.
The far leg seems angled oddly, although I admit I like the calf on the leg closest to us. Nice shape and definition.

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[-] [+] No.58
Tail from 'Red Twilight' 
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Source: http://www.myspace.com/439772197
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>>64
It's a 'novel,' number one of his planned five.

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>>65

Great, it's like Kenneth Eng only instead of dragons, bad parodies of hellsing and furries.

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>>64 these were done with coal on construction paper, i decided 10 years ago i would never work with acrylic again. but i think i see why charcoal is a dieing art form. it is taxing not to blind it in unwanted ways.

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You're next on my list but my dinner/coffee break is now.

I didn't get Starbucks, but Caribou is better anyway. Ten percent of their proceeds are going toward curing breast cancer right now too! :>

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All right, here's the fun stuff.

I get the feeling you've had people tell you, "Your stuff is bad and you should feel bad," or something along those lines, but you have chosen to ignore them. Why are you here, what are you expecting to hear? You're likely not going to get what you want. Not from a single person.

I made a slight effort to read "The Perfect Dream 1" but stopped shortly into it because it was, I'm sorry, that bad. Why, even the 1 being immediately after Dream sounds ridiculous.
In the first three paragraphs, you have words capitalized without reason, words lacking correct spacing, incorrect verbs and nouns, spelling errors... There are sentence fragments without reason, and it lacks a flow that is expected in a story.
Following this, it skips around from one character to the next, barely explaining each one, and making me wonder why you're doing it. None of these characters are built up enough for me to care.
You need to realize that, while all these characters are wholly fleshed out in your mind, while your entire world is built up, you cannot present only small portions of it to others and expect them to see it the same way. You cannot give us tiny bits of information in poorly written prose and expect us to want to read more, or care that you've written this, or waste our money on your self-published garbage.

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[-] [+] No.56
Deputy 
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I'd love to get some feedback on this piece. Also, I want to show a little more emotion than it currently does. I'd appreciate any suggestion. If you could let me know that it looks like the characters are thinking, that would help me out, too.

Thanks!
Bral

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>>56 I've made some tweaks and I've added a background

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What do I think the characters are thinking? The one on the left is certainly enjoying the conversation, but is not open more intimately to the one on our right. The one on the right is inviting, going for a more intimate conversation. Just what I get out of how open their postures are. They're both on friendly levels, just one is more open than the other.

I think that the one on our left could use a little more work on his arms. Perhaps a more defined line between the bicep and forearm. Possibly angle his gloves downward a little more, make his forearms slightly longer? or rounding off the top line of the glove a bit.

His legs also feel a little off. The knee closest to us should probably be a little bigger, to indicate its closeness, while the hoof just slightly smaller. Just exaggerate it a bit is the point.
On the leg of his that's on OUR left, shape the knee differently. It's not just a knob. Probably define the thigh as a tapering bit, and then a line on the bottom to give definition to the knee area. Any part of the knee that sticks out a bit should be more on the inside.

I am pretty all right with the character on our right. His forearm might need a little more length, and his hand should have a palm. His breast (the one on our left) seems kind of round for a defined pec, should look like it has more weight and thus the thicker part should be a little lower.

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>>74

Deatzh, thanks! As always, an excellent critique! You've given me a lot to work with. I'll make the adjustments you suggested before coloring the picture. And I'm very pleased with how you 'read' the characters; It's exactly the kind of emotion I had hoped to convey.

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:)



[-] [+] No.54
Rusty 
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It's been a while since I did some drawing. Went looking for a kitten and just had the urge to draw, its a doodle I spose.

It's also one of my few attempts at Anthro. Being to shy to post it on my DA page, I came here.

I would love to know what needs improvement.

Dankie's!!!

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Colloquial definitions of 'doodle' lead to the idea that it's not something you want critique on.
Although, I understand what it is you mean. Just that you may need to be careful in using it.

Few attempts at anthro? So I imagine you typically draw anime then? While I think the quality of your work seems better than the average person drawing anime, it seems to me that you've based your anatomical studies off of various anime/manga characters, rather than real life. The particular style is based off of bastardizations/exaggerations/stylizations/whatever-you-want-to-call-it of human anatomy, which is essential to learn the basics of first. Check up on the underlying structures of anatomy, and learn to use the accepted 'head' heights of characters (realistically, it varies, but humans and humanoid creatures are actually around 6/6.5 heads high. Model and hero varieties are exaggerations, up to about eight heads high. Much more than that and you have some beastly character on your hands.)
The above link, "Figure Drawing Basics" mentions it. However, it seems to not be working right now... The site is down, according to DownForEveryoneOrJustMe. I am not sure if this is permanent or not, and will search for something else that describes proportions short and sweetly in the case that it is.

So all that put frankly: underlying anatomy, proportions, GO. Also facial proportions of humans, and study photos of animals (assuming you cannot have access to at least the skull of that animal).

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>>54

Look, if you really want to get better at furry art, you'll have to sit down and spend some time reading books on the subject of drawing.
And don't complain about not being able to find any, they have tons of free PDFs (including every book mentioned in the list at the top of /crit/) at http://tr.im/artbooks .



[-] [+] No.20
Shyla Salve Critique 
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Source: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/2667233

Well, I think I have her basic body structure and features down.. I don't think there is anything particularly 'wrong' with it, but it just feels Generic y'know? What do you think of this and what could I do to try and add some "umph" to the style?

*Oh..Well I guess this may not exactly be furry, but meh-

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There is a general indifference in this particular part of the board on whether or not the material posted is really furry, as well as a lack of bias toward any particular media.

-It feels generic:
This is true. Why? It's not particularly exciting. There is a giant lack of dynamic in the overall composition. Having something interesting is more than simply putting a character in a pose other than standing around.

In general, your art lacks this and will until you study some basics. The elements of art and the principles of design are necessary to understand.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elements_of_Art
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principles_of_Design
Primarily, knowing and understanding the seven elements, also these particular principles: unity, repetition, variety, emphasis, proportion, balance, contrast (Ugly Red Vampires Eat Peanut Butter Cookies, if you need a mnemonic device).

Now comes the fun things that I am going to put in ways that you don't want to hear.

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Baron Humbug von Redline returns! And this board has been cleaned out? Ahh, fresh air.

To add oomph, you want to emphasize more on the action. The way you draw it is like a snap from Street Fighter, you can fix the pose as much as you want but it'd still be a sideways view. Not very exciting.

Now imagine you're the opponent, you're looking at the character face on, about to get AIRBENDING SLICED. Like you're about to get your face rearranged. Now THAT is a more exciting angle and view.

And everything else deatzh said.
Your lines are so scraggled and there's so much scraplines it looks like she's propelling herself with a ginormous fart.



[-] [+] No.16
Little help needed 
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It's just a doodle for someone, but i dont really find it correct. Can anyone help me find out what exactly is wrong with it? First off though, im no good at hands, their supposed to be behind his back. Does anything else look a bit off to you? And does anything really stick out bad, like..scream FIX ME?

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The fact that even you can see that it's not perfect is good. Some people refuse to see their own errors, and end up stagnating because aren't willing to see a reason to improve.

Anyway.
It's not that bad was my first thought, then I noticed it was on lined paper.
Don't draw on lined paper. Find something else, especially if you're giving this to someone. Lined paper is for writing.

Anatomy:
Everyone can continue to work on studying the underlying structures (skeleton, musculature) and proportions, you are no exception, so study it.

The head is a bit large and oddly shaped. Should probably be a more fluid combination of a human and an animal head, unless you're going for something that will probably fall into a lot of peoples' uncanny valley.
His nose seems to be in complete profile, the eyes a little closer to a three-fourths view, and the ears even closer to a front view. You need to establish an angle and stick with it, as distorting it would be unnecessary in this piece.

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>>27 Damn your good at criticism , and yes, i completely agree with the whole leg thing. They seem very straight down and skinny, and at the time i was drawing this i had no other paper to draw on. But, i just recently got crap loads of nice white paper! This is also my first attempt at drawing a wolf anthro with a head like that, so thanks for pointing out my mistakes. I had no clue how to draw it and couldnt find a good reference in the short time i had looking for one. My anatomy stinks, i know, and ive been working on it a lot, its rather difficult to remember so many things! The actual picture was just put up on my DA page, i wouldnt give something this crappy to someone unless i was very happy with it...and im not, as you can tell. With the tail, i believe i tried to make it husky looking, but failed bad..Ive also been working on my clothes, but every time i try to draw the wrinkles and legs and such, it comes out funny looking and badly drawn. I typically draw the hands but in this case i was just to tired to bring myself to do it. Now, i do plan on redrawing this later when i feel im up to the task and not horrible. Thank you very much for pointing out my mistakes and stuff!



[-] [+] No.22
Any critique/comments? 
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A little something I did in photoshop. Critique please?

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/sydcol/

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Anatomy:
Basics. The same stuff I tell everyone else. You need to understand the underlying anatomy. Also, proportions. This guy's arms are way out of whack with the length of his torso Or maybe it's the stomach that's out of proportion with the chest and arms.

Also, I don't even know what he's supposed to be. Something canid? A raccoon? I first thought it was a raccoon because the head shape seems to be commonly used in cartoon 'coons.
This is why studying real things is useful. Otherwise you just have a symbol of something, and what you may see as one thing, someone can and will see as something else.

Line quality:
Learn to use long, quick strokes instead of jagged and hairy lines. They don't create the form as well. I would suggest sticking to pencil and non-lined paper first, unless you have a large tablet. While it seems that a lot of people in the fandom/community go more for digital media than traditional, traditional is more ideal for learning the basics in, because it is a 'real' media and you can interact with it more.

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