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Art critique and advice; beginner artists are welcome to post here; includes an oekaki. (NO FLAMES)

Artists, read before posting!

Before you post your art to ask for critique, please read these tutorials. They explain the basic principles of drawing and figure drawing. Most posts where these basics are missing will never get a response, as people are quite frankly sick and bored of explaining over and over that you would have to pretty much learn how to draw first, before you could improve.

Courtesy of Arne Niklas Jansson: Basic and comprehensive drawing and painting tutorial
Courtesy of Bakaneko: Figure Drawing Basics, Further Anatomy, Hands

These were brought to my attention by Aeresque#Artist. Courtesy of Scribd: Drawing the Human head, Drawing Dynamic Hands, Dynamic Figure Drawing
And for those of you who want it a bit easier, we also have the whole thing as one neat rar with all three books in pdf form.

NEW! These were brought to my attention by MajorTom in #fchan. Courtesy of Andrew Loomis: Creative Illustration, Drawing the Head and Hands, Eye Of The Painter, Figure drawing for all it's worth, Fun with a Pencil, Successful Drawing, Drawing Dynamic Hands.

If you think you know a good basic tutorial that would fit in here, feel free to contact me under Xenofur in IRC and I will add the link.





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[-] [+] No.1171
Rant: Facial expressions 
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7099 No.1171 1171

This isn't a request for critique, but rather a critique I have for artists (especially up-and-coming ones) that are making explicit art.

Please, please study facial expressions.

It annoys me so much when I see the generic 'amused' expression all over the place, especially during intense sexual/sensual moments. STOP IT!
It comes down to suspension of disbelief - If your subjects' facial expressions do not match what's happening in your scene, the suspension of disbelief is broken, and you lose the interest of your audience.

The most glaring example of this is in O-Face pictures. I can't tell you how many pictures I've seen on this site and others depicting an orgasm, where the characters look as though they've just been told a mildly amusing joke.

TL;DR study faces. Examples to follow.

<-- First example. Excellent.

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121766 No.1172 - Link Reply Report 1172

Whoops, fail thumbnnail. Let's try that again
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483745 No.1173 - Link Reply Report 1173

Negative example. I actually like this picture, but the faces.....ugh...
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259682 No.1174 - Link Reply Report 1174

Positive example #2.

Basically any picture by Blotch is a good example....I just picked the first one that I found.
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279822 No.1175 - Link Reply Report 1175

Negative example #2
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566456 No.1176 - Link Reply Report 1176

Positive example #3 and the last one I'm going to post.....for now.

I'm interested to hear what you guys have to say about all of this. Does it bother you? Have any of you struggled to create dynamic, life-like expressions? And most importantly, does anyone have any resources (tutorials, reference charts etc) on expression drawing that they'd like to share with the fchan community?

Thanks for reading, and

/rant
No.1182 - Link Reply Report 1182

I was actually just thinking this as someone had linked me to an image on FA. Far too many pictures depict one partner smirking like a dumbass while the other one has their tongue sticking out.

There is always a constant attempt on my part to make convincing, fitting facial expressions, but that's just how I work.

Hopefully you can find a means to inform more people on this. I'll consider looking up tutorials tomorrow if I don't forget about fchan for four months again.
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827333 No.1222 - Link Reply Report 1222

I generally do my damned best to avoid this bs, personally.

Pic related.
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186992 No.1394 - Link Reply Report 1394

>>1173

Facial expressions make or break erotica for me. I'd rather see a two-minute sketch with intense emoting from the characters than one like >>1173 where they're all HEH LOLGASM.

Any suggestions for artists to follow who get this? They are few and fucking far between!

(Bump with content: another hot Blotch O-face.)
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1137031 No.1475 - Link Reply Report 1475

I figure this thread would be a good place to ask, since this thread is what kept me on my toes for this picture, but do the expressions read... well?
No.1477 - Link Reply Report 1477

I agree with the idea that it's stupid to just show mild amusement or even indifference when there's an orgasm happening. Though there is the other extreme, where artists draw EVERY face roaring and shrieking with pleasure no matter what's going on.

There may just be an issue with "default face" for artists... I can certainly think of a few famous examples of cookie-cutter faces in popular artists' work.
No.1483 - Link Reply Report 1483

OP's picture is perfect. I'm more attracted to the male but you can tell both are into it and not going "LOL SEX IS FUN"
No.1490 - Link Reply Report 1490

all I read is "hey I´m OP, I dont even try to draw, but guess what, I advice superior persons how to draw!"
No.1491 - Link Reply Report 1491

>>1490
Are you honestly being butthurt just to be butthurt?

I doubt you're Kyma or Adam.
No.1496 - Link Reply Report 1496

>>1490

Stop being an idiot. You don't need to be an artist to know how something should look, and he didn't say he wasn't, anyway. You strike me as a whiner if you think he's being a douche for presenting legitimate critique.

tl;dr stop being dumb
No.1536 - Link Reply Report 1536

I'm surprised to see this thread still around. Although, I suppose /crit/ doesn't get too many submissions compared to the other boards :<

>>1490
Don't get me wrong, I'm absolutely shit at drawing. I'm trying to get better, but fuck it's hard (heh. heh....). Still, pointing out stylistic elements that don't work well doesn't require a good artist. It just takes someone who's willing to look, and speak.

In related news, I've been watching a live streamer recently who does a really amazing job with faces, all the time. Her FA is Jailbird ( http://www.furaffinity.net/gallery/jailbird ). You guys should all go give her some love.
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136163 No.1537 - Link Reply Report 1537

Am i doin it rite?