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Art critique and advice; beginner artists are welcome to post here; includes an oekaki. (NO FLAMES)

Artists, read before posting!

Before you post your art to ask for critique, please read these tutorials. They explain the basic principles of drawing and figure drawing. Most posts where these basics are missing will never get a response, as people are quite frankly sick and bored of explaining over and over that you would have to pretty much learn how to draw first, before you could improve.

Courtesy of Arne Niklas Jansson: Basic and comprehensive drawing and painting tutorial
Courtesy of Bakaneko: Figure Drawing Basics, Further Anatomy, Hands

These were brought to my attention by Aeresque#Artist. Courtesy of Scribd: Drawing the Human head, Drawing Dynamic Hands, Dynamic Figure Drawing
And for those of you who want it a bit easier, we also have the whole thing as one neat rar with all three books in pdf form.

NEW! These were brought to my attention by MajorTom in #fchan. Courtesy of Andrew Loomis: Creative Illustration, Drawing the Head and Hands, Eye Of The Painter, Figure drawing for all it's worth, Fun with a Pencil, Successful Drawing, Drawing Dynamic Hands.

If you think you know a good basic tutorial that would fit in here, feel free to contact me under Xenofur in IRC and I will add the link.

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[-] [+] No.1617
The process of making furry art? 
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I really need to know how furry art is made. I'm generally new to doing this and very amateur when it comes to making it even in the most professional way. My example would be my first and so far only art I've made. http://www.furaffinity.net/full/9209540/

So this is what I need to know :
The average time it takes to make furry art
What programs are used to make it
The optimal size to make one

P.S. If this isn't the right place to post such a thread, please point me to the right place. Thanks.

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Are you interested in actually becoming a proficient artist, or are you just looking to doodle animal-people that get your rocks off?

If the former, the following are things you do not need to concern yourself with right now:
-The average time it takes to make ANY art
-Optimal size of a digital work

I'd like to bring out the programs point a little more.
They will never magically make you better, nor more accepted, nor make your work more or less appealing. Tools are tools, all the programs people use are just tools.
There is a good tool to start with though: pencil and paper. You know how to write already, you know how to use that tool to translate what is in your mind efficiently to paper. While some people can pull out amazing pieces with a mouse, it's physically unhealthy to use one. Until you get a tablet, stick with traditional means. Pencil and paper.

If you just want to doodle lumpy potato animal people:
-At least five days. The longer you spend on any furry drawing the more value it has, even if it looks terrible.
-Photoshop is what the 'real pros' use, but Sai Paint Tool is widely accepted online, and with the furries.
-Bigger is better. If you go with an enormous canvas you can put in all of the tiny, tiny details, and that's what matters to everyone even if it means overloading your senses because all those tiny, tiny details did not, do not, and will not matter.

No.1622 - Link Reply Report 1622

Thanks for the info. I already have a tablet and such which I should of mentioned in my original post. I am using Photoshop for now. It has been doing fine except that I can't really do smooth shading. It always has to be a brush that seems sharp even with hardness at 0. If you know a good program that does just about what I need, please tell me about this. Or if you just know a way to make those smooth shadows in Photoshop, inform me of that instead.

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Pic related should help with making smooth shadows. In short, don't use a hard brush. And don't abuse the blend tool (that's a common mistake for beginners). Make your shading as smooth as possible, and then and only then should you use the blend tool.

The way I paint in photoshop most resembles oil painting, since that's my background. Like the first guy said, just learn to sketch traditionally. Your knowledge of anatomy is absolute shit, and before you can shade you need to understand value. Learn the fundamentals first. Read the sticky here, or the one on 4chan's /ic/ board.

No.1714 - Link Reply Report 1714

I think you're mostly asking the wrong questions in terms of moving forward with your art. Any answers you get on here may be good things to try out but it's up to you which methods you're most comfortable with. You are in the right place though, this is a good thread to have in general.

Doesn't matter how long it takes. Take as long as you need to make something you're comfortable with calling finished. Could be 10 minutes, could be days, whatever.

Doesn't matter what program you use either. Anything that lets you draw in any way is fine. I even cut my teeth in Flash to begin with even though it's far from you'd consider an illustrating program. Try out as many programs as you want, it's all free to pirate.

Now, it can kind of matter what size it is though. The best advice I've ever received is to make a gigantic canvas (larger than 2000x2000) and sketch wth it fit to your screen. That way when you ink you can zoom all the way in till the one single line you want to draw next covers your whole screen. Do it in one long sweeping motion, undo, repeat, undo, repeat, etc. until you end up with one individual line that fits that part of your sketch. Zoom out periodically to see how it looks but you'll find you don't really need to very often.

But again, that's just me.

If you want the real answers to your questions I suggest just do art. Like every day if you can. http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/ is going to be your best friend for that going forward. You'll settle into whatever methods you are most comfortable with naturally. You don't have to do anything the same way other people do it.