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Art critique and advice; beginner artists are welcome to post here; includes an oekaki. (NO FLAMES)

Artists, read before posting!

Before you post your art to ask for critique, please read these tutorials. They explain the basic principles of drawing and figure drawing. Most posts where these basics are missing will never get a response, as people are quite frankly sick and bored of explaining over and over that you would have to pretty much learn how to draw first, before you could improve.

Courtesy of Arne Niklas Jansson: Basic and comprehensive drawing and painting tutorial
Courtesy of Bakaneko: Figure Drawing Basics, Further Anatomy, Hands

These were brought to my attention by Aeresque#Artist. Courtesy of Scribd: Drawing the Human head, Drawing Dynamic Hands, Dynamic Figure Drawing
And for those of you who want it a bit easier, we also have the whole thing as one neat rar with all three books in pdf form.

NEW! These were brought to my attention by MajorTom in #fchan. Courtesy of Andrew Loomis: Creative Illustration, Drawing the Head and Hands, Eye Of The Painter, Figure drawing for all it's worth, Fun with a Pencil, Successful Drawing, Drawing Dynamic Hands.

If you think you know a good basic tutorial that would fit in here, feel free to contact me under Xenofur in IRC and I will add the link.





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I just recently started using a digital tablet, and I've quickly fallen in love with it. It's like the missing piece of what I've been wanting to do. I -want- to color, but don't want to sink hundreds of dollars into markers.

Anyway, moving on.

Tell me what I'm doing right and wrong.

Here is a progression of my first four works with the tablet. I model my style after american comics and strive for similar looks. I don't want to be some deviantart photo realistic uber-fantasy guru. I want my stuff to look like a really well done comic. Examples here: http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/3300000/Justice-League-of-America-Wallpaper-justice-league-3330526-1024-780.jpg http://www.titanstower.com/assets/recroom/posters/batmannightwingposter.jpg and http://comicculturewarrior.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/double-boot-to-the-face.jpg

First one was as simple as I could go.

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Next up, playing with some effects.

There are alot of mistakes in this one.

Also, insight. I -much- prefer drawing something sexy as opposed to outright pornographic, hence my lack of hits on my FA page, to which I try not to care, but sex sells. Page hits based on skill would be nice, but...eh.

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Next up, a drastic improvement in anatomy and a big oops.

I -LOVE- the body on this one. It screams tension. Unfortunately, I accidentally saved it as a .jpg and lost all the layers and work I was doing on it.

Also, the process I use. I either sketch something by hand or in OC, then a new layer for the inking/linework, then a flat layer of color, then new layers for darks and lights.

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Finally, my latest piece.

I'm very happy with how it turned out.

Now, have at it.

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You're not bad, but you definitely need to work on your anatomy and body proportions. Your calves and feet are consistently too big, as are your arms and shoulders. And no, you cannot explain that way with "but they're muscular", if you're thinking of that. Look at some actual human photos and compare to your stuff.

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>>222
You can go one of two ways about this:
1) Forego any studying of anatomy, draw what you think you see, add muscles and ridiculous proportions, and VOILA, LIEFELD!
2) Study anatomy like a bat out of hell, apply the dynamics of comic book characters, make modern comic art.

I suggest the latter, which does require outside sources. Your intentions may not be to have perfectly anatomically and/or proportionally correct characters (clearly, superheroes go above and beyond out expectations anyway, especially the giantass beastlike monstrosities), but you should still study anatomy hard first.
In Loomis's "Figure Drawing for all it's Worth" there's a nice little chart with a couple different head heights of male characters. 7.5 being the art school accepted 'normal' height (which he explains is dumpy then draws an intentionally dumpy character in there... 7.5 =/= dumpy), 8 being artistic normal, 8.5 being model proportions, 9 being heroic... I'd suggest brushing up on that, drawing various characters at different proportions, and taking note of how they're built at those proportions.
Also what >>230 said.

That out of the way...
Your characters are simply not dynamic enough in pretty much all ways. Poses, exaggerations of anatomy, excessive shadows/highlights, they're lacking it.
The Fury of Air picture is the best you've got in dynamic posing, and the musculature is all kinds of jacked over on it.
The torso of Fire is good, but the legs are very weak. They are static, and don't portray any sort of tension. All parts of the body are important in portraying tension, as we use so much more to show our emotion than just our hands, biceps, and face. The musculature is also very weak on his legs, and the curve of his far thigh and close calf are distractingly unnatural.
Fury of Earth is the best in tone dynamics. Your range of dark to light in it is fairly decent, although I would dare say it's just not enough. If you'll notice in every picture you linked there are areas of black ink. The last has the least on the character emphasized in the middle, but it still does exist. Shadows otherwise in all linked images are generally rather mild, but much use is made of ambient lighting.

At this very moment I wouldn't be so concerned with the shadow, were I you, as anatomy should be fixed and understood first, but you should keep it in mind.

The quality of your images is also somewhat irritating. You have them all saved as lower quality JPGs. Higher quality, or even PNG filetypes are acceptable. If you're worried about immense file size, shrink the image a little or save the JPG at (on a photoshop level) a ranking of 10 or 11, instead of 12. Don't go below 10, it just looks like shit. (Don't have Photoshop, the funds to get it, nor the stupid balls to pirate it? Get the GIMP. Do not rely on openCanvas to save your files, since its JPG compression is shit.)
Aside from that, the line work varies. In the earlier pictures there seems to be a lot of artifacts around the lines, and the lines themselves have very hard edges, which doesn't work for this style. The newer ones aren't such an issue with it. You do need to be careful with finished linework, though. You've got a lot of sketch lines as well as breaks in a line that shouldn't have breaks. How big is your tablet? Unless it's small, you shouldn't be having so much of an issue with this, and even if it is small you need to learn to adapt in any way possible.

Answering any statements or questions you have, because I want to:

>I just recently started using a digital tablet, and I've quickly fallen in love with it. It's like the missing piece of what I've been wanting to do. I -want- to color, but don't want to sink hundreds of dollars into markers.

Quite convenient, yes. Ink washes are by far superior to markers anyway. That's an opinion, but I stand strong by it. I've personally found it helpful to think of the stylus as a brush, rather than pen. Linework with a small tablet is a pain in the ass.

>I -much- prefer drawing something sexy as opposed to outright pornographic,

Fantastic. Erotic work is clearly superior. Haha, that's also an opinion, but erotic generally has subtle imagery involved, whereas a lot of pornographic material, especially on Furaffinity, is just a plain picture of a dude jerking his HARD-AS-CEMENT and COMPLETELY-IMMOVABLE dick. How boring.

>hence my lack of hits on my FA page, to which I try not to care, but sex sells. Page hits based on skill would be nice, but...eh.

Don't care about it. Don't get distraught by lack of pageviews. It's not what you should be concerned about, except in the case of needing help, in which case you need to actively find who to go to for it.
Also, there are cases of popular people being popular solely because of skill level, not by having drawn porn. You know of Silverone?
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/silverone
Now you do. You can even see improvement in her work if you go back a year in her gallery. Persistence sure gets people places.

>Also, the process I use. I either sketch something by hand or in OC, then a new layer for the inking/linework, then a flat layer of color, then new layers for darks and lights.

I'd suggest doing more of the sketching and lineart onto actual paper. Also getting some program that's not oC and adjusting your line work that way so you don't necessarily need to redraw it above another layer.
As for your process, I would tell you, "Man up and put all the coloring on one layer," but 'painting' is largely different than a drawing consisting of lineart and blocks of color. I would suggest keeping mild shading and multiple lighting patterns on the same layer, then creating a separate for the pure black shadows.

Curiosity's still got me asking: What's your FA alias?

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>>231

Ah, what the hell. Why not.

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/silvermoonwolf/

Go take a look if you like. I'll be working on my reference and figure drawing for about a month.

I'd appreciate it if you singled out some things you like, don't like and things that you think I could improve upon beyond what you already said.

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Lol wow, so I've been watching you for a really long time, I'm actually pretty surprised that I didn't see this when you uploaded these a couple weeks ago.

>singled out some things you like,

Beard. :>

>don't like and things that you think I could improve upon beyond what you already said.

Dunno, will think about for the weekend, for srs.