>How do you generally go about constructing these? Start with a line of action, build skeletal form, then add flesh?
Actually, for these in particular I have started using that very technique. I've recently picked the technique up from the book "How To Draw Comics The Marvel Way." From there I add a circle for the head, a line for the shoulders, and then circles for the joints, followed by connecting them with a line. From there I build on it.
I used to start off with a circle for the head and do a line of action, and just go from there. This new technique seems to be working much better.
>I am sorry for this. I apparently like it?
Sorry? Shit, that's amazing. You've improved it 10 fold.
>Pointed out the things I'd consider 'issues' with my FANCY BLUE ARROWS.Deltoids and the way the pec appears to connect to them. The pectorals actually go beneath the deltoids, but flesh typically causes them to look connected. Lulzdrawz lurnd me good on that one.
I see. I've always noticed the pecs and deltoids always seem to flow together, but I could never get the flow to look right, and that's probably why. The flow to the arms from the chest have always been a challenge for me.
I noticed in your gallery on FA you mention Lulzdrawz. What are those exactly? Are they a term for something specific?
>Side of the stomach: should probably be indicated by a ribcage instead of relatively massive abs. I shaped them... weirdly? I don't know, you can draw abs however you damn well please, they come in a lot of forms. The odd teardrop thing looks appealing, in my opinion.
Abs are indeed very strange. I often see inconsistencies in them from artist to artist. I've based my way of doing them on this picture in particular: http://www.abs-exercise-advice.com/images/Muscle-anatomy.jpg IE three sets of abs that begin directly under the pecs, the naval under the lowest set, followed by the long stomach muscle (not sure of the technical term of that). I'm not sure how accurate that image is. I'll look for more references.
I see what you're saying though, in comparison the abs I drew seem to stick out much more than in your edit.
>Also corrected the line down the middle of the stomach, more how it should follow.
I had no idea you that could be done. I usually do a line down the back, but it never dawned on me I could do one down the stomach too. I'll keep that in mind, it definitely makes it look much better.
>Obliques: in this particular body type they would probably be a bit more defined, giving that asinine V shape thing that dudes have.
I'm not too familiar with those muscles, I definitely need to practice more on those. Where exactly is the V-shaped thing you're mentioning, down by the groin?
>Am curious though (aside from the aforementioned question I posted), if this took you fourteen minutes, what could you do given more time?
The irony is the more time I spend on something, the worse and worse it looks. Whenever I ink something using the pen tool, it always looks really bad, and I can never get it looking good. I have yet to go over the "inking" section of the book I picked up, I should probably do that soon.
My shading is also a bit akward. I can't see myself doing a shading job as good as your edit for at least a good while.
I've always seen myself as very slow when it comes to drawings. In the past I have spent up to 5 or 10 minutes trying to perfect a specific part of the body, never really quite catching what I have in mind. These drawings are very quick, sketchy, effortless. I've been doing drawings like this recently to train myself to be quicker overall.
Aside from that, I appreciate the help you've given me, I'll be sure to study the differences between the two and try to apply what it teaches me to what I draw.
>If you didn't act like an entitled giant douchnozzle like CELLOPHANETAPEMAN, help will come your way.
I'm going to humbly request that you keep your personal grudges out of this thread. Thanks.
>And it's not porn.
I save that stuff for lulz.net.