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This took about 14 minutes, an attempt at a quick drawing with very few erases. Did a basic skeletal sketch, then built the body on top of it. Not too happy with how the face in particular came out, I usually do a much better job on them.

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s'more, action pose

16 minutes

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How do you generally go about constructing these? Start with a line of action, build skeletal form, then add flesh?

Just curious on that.

Probably gonna throw a redline on the stretching dude in a little while, point some stuff out then.
'KAY?

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I am sorry for this. I apparently like it?

Pointed out the things I'd consider 'issues' with my FANCY BLUE ARROWS.
Deltoids and the way the pec appears to connect to them. The pectorals actually go beneath the deltoids, but flesh typically causes them to look connected. Lulzdrawz lurnd me good on that one.

Side of the stomach: should probably be indicated by a ribcage instead of relatively massive abs. I shaped them... weirdly? I don't know, you can draw abs however you damn well please, they come in a lot of forms. The odd teardrop thing looks appealing, in my opinion.

Also corrected the line down the middle of the stomach, more how it should follow.

Obliques: in this particular body type they would probably be a bit more defined, giving that asinine V shape thing that dudes have.

Am curious though (aside from the aforementioned question I posted), if this took you fourteen minutes, what could you do given more time?

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Oh fuck that's amazing :D

Thanks for taking me seriously and all that, I'm flattered

I'll make a longer, more thought out response once I'm more soberrr, new years and all ya know~

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>How do you generally go about constructing these? Start with a line of action, build skeletal form, then add flesh?

Actually, for these in particular I have started using that very technique. I've recently picked the technique up from the book "How To Draw Comics The Marvel Way." From there I add a circle for the head, a line for the shoulders, and then circles for the joints, followed by connecting them with a line. From there I build on it.

I used to start off with a circle for the head and do a line of action, and just go from there. This new technique seems to be working much better.

>I am sorry for this. I apparently like it?

Sorry? Shit, that's amazing. You've improved it 10 fold.

>Pointed out the things I'd consider 'issues' with my FANCY BLUE ARROWS.Deltoids and the way the pec appears to connect to them. The pectorals actually go beneath the deltoids, but flesh typically causes them to look connected. Lulzdrawz lurnd me good on that one.

I see. I've always noticed the pecs and deltoids always seem to flow together, but I could never get the flow to look right, and that's probably why. The flow to the arms from the chest have always been a challenge for me.

I noticed in your gallery on FA you mention Lulzdrawz. What are those exactly? Are they a term for something specific?

>Side of the stomach: should probably be indicated by a ribcage instead of relatively massive abs. I shaped them... weirdly? I don't know, you can draw abs however you damn well please, they come in a lot of forms. The odd teardrop thing looks appealing, in my opinion.

Abs are indeed very strange. I often see inconsistencies in them from artist to artist. I've based my way of doing them on this picture in particular: http://www.abs-exercise-advice.com/images/Muscle-anatomy.jpg IE three sets of abs that begin directly under the pecs, the naval under the lowest set, followed by the long stomach muscle (not sure of the technical term of that). I'm not sure how accurate that image is. I'll look for more references.

I see what you're saying though, in comparison the abs I drew seem to stick out much more than in your edit.

>Also corrected the line down the middle of the stomach, more how it should follow.

I had no idea you that could be done. I usually do a line down the back, but it never dawned on me I could do one down the stomach too. I'll keep that in mind, it definitely makes it look much better.

>Obliques: in this particular body type they would probably be a bit more defined, giving that asinine V shape thing that dudes have.

I'm not too familiar with those muscles, I definitely need to practice more on those. Where exactly is the V-shaped thing you're mentioning, down by the groin?

>Am curious though (aside from the aforementioned question I posted), if this took you fourteen minutes, what could you do given more time?

The irony is the more time I spend on something, the worse and worse it looks. Whenever I ink something using the pen tool, it always looks really bad, and I can never get it looking good. I have yet to go over the "inking" section of the book I picked up, I should probably do that soon.

My shading is also a bit akward. I can't see myself doing a shading job as good as your edit for at least a good while.

I've always seen myself as very slow when it comes to drawings. In the past I have spent up to 5 or 10 minutes trying to perfect a specific part of the body, never really quite catching what I have in mind. These drawings are very quick, sketchy, effortless. I've been doing drawings like this recently to train myself to be quicker overall.

Aside from that, I appreciate the help you've given me, I'll be sure to study the differences between the two and try to apply what it teaches me to what I draw.

>If you didn't act like an entitled giant douchnozzle like CELLOPHANETAPEMAN, help will come your way.

I'm going to humbly request that you keep your personal grudges out of this thread. Thanks.

>And it's not porn.

I save that stuff for lulz.net.

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>Lulzdrawz

I think... it was suggested by someone on lulz, and cge ended up taking charge of it. ArcheKruz has a list on his page of everyone involved.
The intentions are for people to take a little time out of every day and draw, do studies and whatnot, just try to better themselves. We want to send out the point that people can and will strive to make the community artistically better overall, showing through our own improvement.
There's a lot of inner critique (some people give some really helpful advice - again, I point to Arche - and some just tell you you suck, it's pretty great) too, so it could be helpful.

And I'll stop using 'we'll' because I'm going to puss out of it. Have anxiety issues and I feel that it is an unnecessary stressor. WALL OF SHAME, HERE I COME.
ArcheKruz's page: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/archekruz

>I often see inconsistencies in [abs] from artist to artist

They're actually really inconsistent in real life too. One of my favorite things about their variation is the ones that aren't symmetrical. But yeah, everyone's got their views on them. I think I make mine way too long, actually.
The image you linked should be fairly accurate. There is odd variations in the medical diagrams, which doesn't really make sense. As best as I can figure, the top set is fairly large, and there's a lot of variation as for how the part over the ribcage is shaped or defined. Maybe it's possible that some people don't even have muscle that can be developed there?

>I usually do a line down the back, but it never dawned on me I could do one down the stomach too.

Yup! :>

>I'm not too familiar with those muscles, I definitely need to practice more on those. Where exactly is the V-shaped thing you're mentioning, down by the groin?

http://www.mystomachexercises.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/external-oblique.jpg
http://www.yorku.ca/earmstro/journey/images/extobliques.jpeg
Google image sommat "external oblique," I don't necessarily think those images show it best.
Following are shirtless muscular dudes with visible V SHAPE:
http://www.sensualstation.net/images/man-torso.jpg
http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/82775187.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=16E16DE330C0F3DA69A3915C13F2F2ABE30A760B0D811297
But it occurs on a lot of male body types, as long as fat isn't obscuring it too much, and of course the degree of definition is a variable.
And yes, down by the groin.

Hopefully I didn't miss anything.

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roughly 20-22 minutes on this one, done to basically show my process, hence the lack of.. well, a hand and feet.

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and screens of the process.

Outline sketch
Fineline or "inking" on a new layer (I usually don't have it looking as sketchy)
Colors, shading
Doing away with the sketch

a little torso practice, still a bit wonky

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>>434
You spend too much time thinking about colouring when your lineart is still too awkward. Basics, basics, basics.

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I hear ya. My line art never looks good enough to me, and I always think it'll look better if I just slap some color into it.

I'll practice a bit more. Till then, have one more for the night. 21 minute cap on this one.

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>>437

> I hear ya. My line art never looks good enough to me, and I always think it'll look better if I just slap some color into it.

Keep thinking that and you'll end up like Pinkuh. Stuff that looks nice to look at, but is completely soulless.

One trend i'm noticing though: You draw torsos like a rubbery tube instead of as a solid rib cage. Go look at some anatomy images of torsos. :)

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some animations for a weapon mod I'm working on... I did the gun and animations, FP arms and art aren't mine

Not furry, but I figured I could still post it here and get crit on it. If I'm lucky somebody here knows a thing or two about animation.

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ultra bump. Been sketching out body studies lately.. whipped this out recently.

I still don't have a feel for laying down lines, I'm an undo whore like nothing else... bad habit ;C

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>>893
i'm rather enjoying your drawings, and this most recent post looks like your refining skills are coming along nicely, i'm not gonna say much more because i'm afraid i might point you in the wrong direction lol

the animation is good, it looks kinda odd, rotated 180 deg on it's side as compared to the drawing that is in the background, it's awefullly... simple... without texturing

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>>912 Yes. Thanks, the model is rather incomplete.. it was scrapped, so I used it as a prop for an animation. I really should stop being a lazy douche and pick it up and finish it at some point.

Here's my latest drawing, done for a friend. flat colors, hoping to get it fully shaded soon with a less crap background.. the legs really bother me, I couldn't get them to look right at all. and don't get me started on the hand. Other than that, I'm not sure if I messed anything else up.

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>>893
Dat ass! god that looks tight, I love you m4rkZ

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dumpin shit

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all fan art of bite quest

http://tgchan.org/wiki/Bite_Quest

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posting some newer stuff.

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>>406

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>>406

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Two more I whipped up. Any critique would be appreciated.

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>>1296
I think the problem with these B&W ones is all in the brush.
You seem to be using a small, textured brush, when you should be using a large hard round and toggling opacity to suit.
A large brush to first block out the form and apply basic shading and light should make them a lot cleaner.

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holy pornographic aliens batman

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da

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da-derp

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Personally, I love >>1291 >>1296 >>1297 (oh god hope I did the links right) They aren't clean and precise, but they feel a lot like someone was recording with those old grainy B&W cameras. All fuzzy and awesome...

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okay guys it's BEEN A FUCKING WHILE but here you go, a request I'm working on.

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Also.