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Art critique and advice; beginner artists are welcome to post here; includes an oekaki. (NO FLAMES)

Artists, read before posting!

Before you post your art to ask for critique, please read these tutorials. They explain the basic principles of drawing and figure drawing. Most posts where these basics are missing will never get a response, as people are quite frankly sick and bored of explaining over and over that you would have to pretty much learn how to draw first, before you could improve.

Courtesy of Arne Niklas Jansson: Basic and comprehensive drawing and painting tutorial
Courtesy of Bakaneko: Figure Drawing Basics, Further Anatomy, Hands

These were brought to my attention by Aeresque#Artist. Courtesy of Scribd: Drawing the Human head, Drawing Dynamic Hands, Dynamic Figure Drawing
And for those of you who want it a bit easier, we also have the whole thing as one neat rar with all three books in pdf form.

NEW! These were brought to my attention by MajorTom in #fchan. Courtesy of Andrew Loomis: Creative Illustration, Drawing the Head and Hands, Eye Of The Painter, Figure drawing for all it's worth, Fun with a Pencil, Successful Drawing, Drawing Dynamic Hands.

If you think you know a good basic tutorial that would fit in here, feel free to contact me under Xenofur in IRC and I will add the link.





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[-] [+] No.706
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Well, here's something I threw together yesterday. I don't usually draw porn, I guess it shows :P
I'd like to hear how well it reads, what catches your attention, what it makes you think etc. Other critique is also welcome of course, if anything looks or feels annoying please speak out.

No.710 - Link Reply Report 710

>>706
This is damn good.

No.711 - Link Reply Report 711

>>710
Thanks, but that's not really a critique is it? :P

No.712 - Link Reply Report 712

First, the good: you did a nice job on the composition, setting the mood, and on the lighting. The light work on the bedsheets is particularly attractive. Composition is balanced, and the entire piece has a very "lazy Sunday morning" look to it, to me.

The problem, really, is the figure - not his anatomy, but his posing combined with how the light falls on him. Honestly, I wouldn't had been able to tell it was porn if you hadn't mentioned it! Because he's made out of black and gray brushstrokes with none of that nice lighting hitting him like the rest of the room, he ends up looking undefined. It really doesn't "read" as anything other than a dude leaning up against his bedframe on its own. You can get away with compact poses with lineart, but when you're working with what is essentially a silhouette, you need to pose things differently, possibly a bit more exaggerated, so it is immediately clear what is going on to the viewer.

I do, however, like the silhouette look, it makes the piece much more dramatic - the problem is making sure the silhouette is obvious without explanation. Your art should speak for itself, after all!

No.713 - Link Reply Report 713

>>712
Thank you!
You're actually not the first one to point out that I should work on my poses. I need to do more life drawing, too bad I can't get on any classes right now :/
Anyway, I took some notes based on your critique:

-think of the viewers, they won't see it like you do.
-The picture must speak for itself
-exaggerate the form when needed

No.714 - Link Reply Report 714

>>713

You're welcome! That's just about what I was rambling about, yeah.

Thing is, though, you really don't need classes to work on posing and anatomy. I personally like to people-watch and use posemaniacs (listed above) since I'm studying in a medical field and really don't have time for extra math classes. The issue isn't where you study, just that you do, in general. As long as you're constantly turning a critical eye towards your artwork, you will eventually learn and understand anatomy on its own. However, it does take more discipline to do this on your own.

For an example of good silhouetting, you may want to look at old Warner Brothers animation - just look up some old Bugs Bunny cartoons on Youtube or something, and pause through the more expressive actions. These old cartoons are really, really good at clear poses, albeit very, very exaggerated ones. Obviously you wouldn't make such exaggerated, cartoony poses with what looks to be your semi-realistic style, but I do find that drawing very loose, fast, silly sketches before hitting the "real" drawing helps keep my work from looking stiff.

Then again, in a masturbation pic, maybe that's the point. :V