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Prysm at 12 Jan 2006: 08:29

hey there, anybody notice that theres a decided lack of real movie based furry erotica...the closested ive ever seen was an old flick called 'fritz the cat' the charicters were old school anthromorphs, and while they did 'do it' tehy never showed anything realy 'good' no spoog, no female 'anatomy' close ups, the only, a few breasts and dicks that was it

my point is, there has to be a movie, a hentai, a film of some kind [other then fursuiters...there are a few of those hard to get at though] out there, i meen come on furrys have been around long enough...and im not talking furs playing side parts here, like as the rape and run type things, but actualy being the focuse of the film

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at 12 Jan 2006: 11:22

The reason you don't see much of that sort of thing is because a feature film, or even a half-hour anime, requires a lot of time, money, and personnel to make, and no studio is going to invest that kind of effort unless they think they have a reasonable chance to turn a profit on it.  "Furry" is still too much of a niche market to even guarantee that they'd break even on the project, much less make money on it.

("Fritz the Cat" was a somewhat specialized case, in that it was based on a then-popular "underground" comic that was well-known outside of "furry" circles -- if, indeed, any such thing even existed as a distinct genre back in the 60's and early 70's.  The only other "furry" property I can think of that would have that kind of well-known appeal today would be "Omaha the Cat Dancer".)

Any "furry erotica" movies will therefore have to come out of our fandom's own artistic base -- and until recently, the tools to do that kind of thing have been far too time-consuming, too expensive, and have had too much of a learning curve to be within reach of the average artist or hobbyist.  The fan-produced CGI "Kaze: Ghost Warrior" shows that this is starting to change, though...

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at 13 Jan 2006: 06:14

It would make next to no money and like >> 2 said, no studio is going to focus on it, just to gives furries new wank stuff. Animation is still costly.

And while you can point to something like Kaze as a bit of a break though, the low production values would harm any profit.

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Prysm at 13 Jan 2006: 08:26

way to kill the dream guys, *sigh* oh well someday.

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at 13 Jan 2006: 10:54

Another older comic that holds some 'furry' characters is Sokal.

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at 13 Jan 2006: 14:38

>>3 -- I guess it depends on what kind of profit you're hoping for.  I think the guy who did Kaze has made a reasonable bit of money selling copies of Kaze at conventions and via mail order...

>>4 -- Sorry, mate, just calling it as I see it.  If you don't want to hear the answer, don't ask the question. :)

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at 14 Jan 2006: 13:41

Almost no pornographic animation is produced in the U.S., even with humans in it. Stripperella? That just pretends to be pornographic. You have to go back a whole decade just to find Spicy City and Cool World, but both of those were more R-rated than X-rated.

The only pornographic animation being produced is from Japan, and I’m not going to hold my breath waiting for a furry-hentai movie. Sure, there are some cat-eared humans, and some furry demon creatures raping humans, but there are extremely few proper furries as main characters in any kind of anime.

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at 16 Jan 2006: 15:43

i think production of an independent furry animation (not flash, actual animation) is possible given the current state of pc technology.  the tools and processing power are available.  check the credits of old tom and jerry cartoons.  one person did the music, several did the sfx/vox, one person did the backgrounds, five people did the animation, and they were using much more primitive tools than were available today.  it's just a matter of getting people to do it.

if i win the lottery, i swear i will produce adult furry flicks...

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at 16 Jan 2006: 20:01

Hand drawn animation is a time consuming process. It doesn't really have much todo with computer power because you still gotta draw at least 12 (if not 24) different images for a single second of animation. The more animators the better, so you can have some working on the keyframes and others working on inbetweens (cuts the production time significantly).

There's also much more that goes into movie making than simply making the drawings. Story and character creation, as well as finalization, are imperative. You also need to story board so you can see a rough "preview" of the movie and make sure it flows well. You need to make sure that, when animated, this scene won't be too long or too short, and that this scene properly gets across the intended message, etc.

*Then* you can think about starting the animation. After that, then you get to worry about sound effects, voices, and making sure any music you may have had still fits.

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at 17 Jan 2006: 08:35

A couple of artists are creating their own 2D “real animation”:

1) Fred Perry’s Gold Digger. He’s animated two 20 minute episodes, and you’ll pay $20 per episode on DVD. In terms of quality, it’s not horrible, but it doesn’t stand up to other anime.

2) Noogy’s Elysian Tail. This professional animator and his wife had been working full time on his feature-length film for at least two years, and there still isn’t a finished movie. However there are some clips that look very well animated.

Noogy’s example shows the dedication and time required to create an animation yourself. Very few people can drop their job and their life for a couple of years to animate a movie.

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at 17 Jan 2006: 19:03

Don't forget Adam Wan's as-of-yet-untitled feature-length film. That's been in the works for a couple years and still ain't done either. In fact, I hear it's just finishing the storyboard process. AFAIK, he luckilly already has (some) voice actors and other animators lined up and ready.

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at 17 Jan 2006: 21:19

>>11
Adam Wan is making a film? OMG

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at 18 Jan 2006: 01:02

For like the last 4 years.

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at 19 Jan 2006: 00:44

>>10
Is the project cancelled? The elysian and noogy.com links don't work.

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at 19 Jan 2006: 18:40

>>14
Because Noogy took the project off the Internet. And no, it didn't get cancelled.

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at 20 Jan 2006: 01:17

>>9
You can get by with 8.

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at 21 Jan 2006: 00:43

>>8
I think the general 'snippiness' of the fandom is the only real block, myself. All the current furry films are being done by one or two people, who're burning themselves out tackling the entire thing on their own. Two scripters, 6 animators, and one or two musicians would be able to do it. Any of those can double up as voice. Although I feel the need to point out unlike most media forms, the more scripters the better, in this case. We don't got a good record for coherent single-man literary projects from the fics I've read. (And I've read lots!) 3 of'em, none close friends, critiquing and voting on the writings they put out would work best. Two is okay with a neutral tiebreaker person.

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Foxstar at 21 Jan 2006: 05:08

>>17 The more people in a project, the bigget chance for it to fall apart due to drama. More so in furry.

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at 21 Jan 2006: 09:11

>>17
There's also the matter of money. Many artists are passionate about their own ideas, and are willing to work on their own ideas for free. Few artists are willing to work on someone else's ideas under someone else's direction with only a vague promise of money sometime in the future.

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Foxstar at 22 Jan 2006: 06:59

>>19 That to. And if said flick makes little to no money, said investors are fucked promptly in the ass. We may see side projects, but anything serious is a long time off still, if ever. I don't know of enough furries who pull the cash needed to commission a professional crew, like CLAMP, GONZO, Ganeix, Studio Ghibli, Viz, Studio Pierrot, Vitor Entertainment, Sunrise, Bandai Visual or Production I.G. for such a undertaking and the cost is in the millions, easy, meaning you could have 50% of the fandom pour money into it and still not have enough. Possably more as it's such a specialized topic and there are quite a few of those studios, like Studio Ghibli who wouldn't touch anything coming near to furry smut.

Don't forget the unwelcome attention from outside media too. A undertaking like this would be bound to draw outside people to mock, poke fun and such.

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wayc at 22 Jan 2006: 16:27

Has anybody seen Bagi, the Monster of Mighty Nature?  That movie is really cute and involves the relationship between a guy named Ryo and a genetically altered mountain lion.  So hot.  lol  It was made by Tezuka Osamu in 1984.

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at 23 Jan 2006: 06:14

>>21

Yup, saw "Bagi."
The title character was VERY sexy, however the ending was just a bit too ambiguous for me.

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