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at 19 Mar 2006: 10:29

A troll, if determined, WILL register.
A troll, if determined, WILL re-register after he/she is deleted.
A troll, if determined (and have some sense of IT), CAN penetrate forums.
A troll, if determined (and have some sense of IT), CAN "Knock off" pictures.

That is all.

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Xenofur at 19 Mar 2006: 10:30

Becuase you are not a forum, you are a board. Lets recap.
http://opera.answers.com/forum

A troll does not want to register.
Why?

A troll does not want to Re-register after you delete him.
So why would he want to go to the trouble of getting a new IP once we've banned him?

A troll does not get very far on a forum.
A troll does not get very far here either.

A troll cannot "Knock off" pictures from the board with the ones he spamed himself.
A troll can't do that here either.

It is More fun to laugh at a troll on a forum when his attempts to "Troll" fall flat.
So it's cool to become a troll?

Your "Open" board is literal cannon foddor for trolls.
In the contrary.

Except this fact and change. Evolve beyond this mess and become a forum...
Right, i'll get right now to installing phpbb and a gallery system and moderator-approved accounts and watch the ten remaining users post there.

or continue to fail.
At what?

Those are you options.
Cool.

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at 19 Mar 2006: 10:39

Of cause, it does depend on your defination of knocking off pictures. :o

But the main advantage of places like FChan is, there's no incentive (or at least, not enough justification of incentive) of trolling here.

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at 19 Mar 2006: 12:36

>>1
You, of course, assume we give a damn about trolls.

Going to a 'forum' would be a downgrade, I think.  Anonymous posting is superior to trying to attatch your name to something, even though most people here do it anyway.  Plus we wouldn't have the right to call ourselves 'fchan' if we didn't use wakaba-based software.

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Lord Vos at 19 Mar 2006: 13:55

never mind i just like demanding things on the internet because it makes me feel like i actually matter hurr hurr hurr

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Xenofur at 19 Mar 2006: 15:25

it's ok, the regular "oh noes, you're doing it wrong!" post was long overdue anyways. :>

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Lehanna at 19 Mar 2006: 16:25

Forum-based image sharing sites are always hard as hell to browse, which is why I perfer Fchan's style.

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at 19 Mar 2006: 17:01

LOL good point - of course your doing it wrong *duh* everyoner does everything wrong so far as someone else is concerned .
that applies equally to all.

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at 19 Mar 2006: 20:10

>>5 if oyu don't care about trolls than why do you go all out to stop them? also you aren realy using wakaba anymor thanks to xeno...

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Wolfblade at 19 Mar 2006: 20:39

Anonymous posting is not superior. Its easier. More convenient for people who don't actually stand behind what they say. Personally, I don't like it. If you don't stand behind what you're saying enough to even have your name attached to it, you probably shouldn't bother speaking up. It comes across as cowardly to me for someone to try and act like their opinion is some huge and enlightening point, while at the same time hiding behind anonymity so they can pretend they never said it if people don't rally behind them. The simple process of registering for an account takes little to no effort at all, but even that little effort is enough to deter some ignorant people whose posts would only drag the boards further down anyway.

I've heard the argument that when posts are anonymous, supposedly they should carry more weight because people look at the statement itself rather than the name of the person saying it. I say if you would base your decision on who is talking rather than what is being said, your opinion shouldn't even matter to begin with. Thats trying to justify a system with many faults just to avoid a single fault that only applies to people so ignorant that they shouldn't even be considered in the decision. Straining your water to avoid swallowing a gnat, then going out and swallowing a camel.

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Min at 19 Mar 2006: 20:47

On the other hand, anonymous posting allows people to say what they think without fear of repurcussions just because they have an unpopular opinion.  If you'll recall, that's one of the principles that the USA was founded upon.  In addition, you're really as good as anonymous on the internet, anyway -- so what if you have a pseudonym?  Nobody will know your real name, address, or other personal information unless you tell them.  There's nothing tying you to a particular name, so it's really no different from being anonymous.

Besides, as many people have proven, just because you put a name to your statements doesn't mean that you're not a moron.

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kai#oYghx6mQzU at 19 Mar 2006: 21:39

>>12 lack of repercussions is a very bad thing, that is the attitude that 90% of the us has (they think they are the most powerful be all end all in the fucking universe) and do what they please... sage Nadia and the rest take advantage of this too, they take no accountability for there actions as real individuals (don’t like my opinion? Call me personally to bitch 905 939 4568 … come on I dare you to call me!)

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction- Einstein, or at least it should…

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at 19 Mar 2006: 22:00

>>12 one cannot voice their full opinions on certain subjects that run counter to the mods beliefs here anyway - (totally unrelated to copyrite) so that is a majour moot point - we are not annon to the mods - who make it clear they are more than willing to turn over details to the athorities ( we can hope they hold true to the claim that it would only be in relation to illeagle things ) the real question is how can we be sure of that being a truth? - usefull things to ponder.

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kai#oYghx6mQzU at 19 Mar 2006: 22:20

>>14 let the mods post my details i dont care... like i have said befor i take responsibility for all my actions...

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Wolfblade at 19 Mar 2006: 22:56

"you aren realy using wakaba anymor thanks to xeno..."
Hence 'wakaba-based.'

>>11
Anonymous posting has its pros and cons.  As was stated, the words themselves will be judged fairly, rather than be biased by the stance the reader has on the author.  Also, if a really bad argument breaks out, and both people are anonymous, there's no bad blood that will carry through later on.  Person A won't go out of their way to discredit Person B because they have no idea it was that person they were fighting to begin with.  If there's no risk of personal backlash, or further consequences by stating your opinion, you're not going to hold back or sugar-coat it.

Some people think it cowardly to not put your identity on a post you make.  Good for them.  That's not how I think.  You don't stress over weither or not your post will piss people off because they don't know you're the one making it, assuming you don't use any identifying ways of typing or phrases.

Let's assume I'd used a name in my previous post.  I am >>5.  Let's call me that, Five.  Let's say I made a post later that really angered you, or otherwise hurt your reputation.  Let's say you make a counter-post that angers me, or otherwise hurts my reputation.  You'll expect a counter from me.  What if I don't give you what you're expecting, and don't post at all?  You'll call me a coward for not trying to defend what I posted.  I, Five, now have a negative impression in your mind, and this will influence how you react to later, unrelated posts by Five.

I could have chosen not to reply.  In fact, I usually don't unless I feel I need to.  You would've never known I had moved on, and you would have never known who to call a coward for not trying to defend what I write.

Oh, and FYI I do post ocassionally with my handle.  I just don't see a point to unless it's something my name will either help to enforce, or is needed for some reason.

BTW, if you do insist on posting with your name, learn to use a tripcode ; )

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Sage Nadia at 20 Mar 2006: 01:52

>>13 I hate to be the one to whack you with a bit of reality, but you really don't sound very bright when you credit to the wrong individuals.

What you have there is Sir Isaac Newton's Third Law of Motion:
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

The other two, which I shouldn't have to post as they are quite common knowlege to everyone I know are:
1. An object at rest or traveling in uniform motion will remain at rest or traveling in uniform motion unless acted upon by a net force.
2. The rate of change of momentum of a body is equal to the resultant force acting on the body and is in the same direction. (The relationship between an object's mass m, its acceleration a, and the applied force F is F = ma.)










Just thought you might like to know.

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Xenofur at 20 Mar 2006: 02:39

just a point: "lack of repercussions"

what >>12 is talking about is the above when aplied to messages based on their content.

what >>13 is talking about is the above when aplied to messages based on them being insults or troll attempts.

the first does not exist on fchan(excempting the rules put forth on the front page) and the second is being enforced here.

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