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I've known people who "know" that trees have feelings, souls, and a voice that we've apparently just trained ourselves not to hear.  Trees.  They think trees can talk, and they swear by it.  They won't take it back, and every time I try to explain things to them, they just repeat over and over that I'm just not listening right, or that I'm in denial.  They're saying that trees can talk, and I'M the one in denial.

You... you're saying that you can understand your cow's body language.  Physically, they don't have a sophisticated enough brain to come up with a language at all, so no, they aren't smart enough to communicate beyond simple emotion.  You want to see consent, and so you see consent.  I see animals that have been bred so docile that they put up with that kind of abuse.

As for your continued dodging of the comparison to pedophilia, dude, it's not considered wrong just because they're young, it's their state of mind.  Children aren't considered intelligent enough to consent to sex, and animal never get to be as intelligent as children.  The only reason people don't make a big deal out of bestiality is because they don't give a damn about your cows as long as they don't see what you're doing.  You could fuck them, you could torture them, you could kill them, whatewver, as long as nobody knows.  If people find out, legally, you'd face some consequences if animals are seen as having any sort of rights where you live... and socially, you'd be an outcast, and probably activaly persecuted.

Have you ever stopped to think that maybe... maybe YOU are the one who's wrong?  That it isn't the ignorant masses, but perhaps an ignorant few this time?  Maybe you aren't some sort of enlightened underground, but simply what a large number of people have labled you... someone who molests animals, and, it would seem, thinks himself as doing the animal a big favor.

Just curious though, do you know what would happen to cows if people quit exploiting them?  Do you think people would set aside the time, space, and resourses to keep a useless animal alive and abundant?  If cows aren't used, they would be killed, and the fields that kept them would be used to grow crops of beans and such to take their place.  A few cows would live in zoos and such, and maybe people would eventually feel bad about eradicating them... but you have to know that cows only survive because people want their meat and milk.

Sheesh, unrealistic dreams are nice and all, but yes... in order to survive, we humans need to make things very miserable for animals, because we're a part of this world.  We need space to live in, food to eat, and resources to use to keep our lives up to par.  There's billions of us, so we need a lot, and unless the population is slashed tenfold and we give up technology, that's not going to change.  Since you're not even going to consider not messing with your cows, I'm guessing you're way too "selfish" to volunteer for the mass suicide it would require to cull enough humans to exists on this world in a non-exploitive manner (if that's even possible), so don't start on the whole "we can all live in harmony" crap.  For every drop of gas, every volt of electricity, every piece of paper that you use, something had to die or be displaced in order for it to get to you.  As a species, we slaughter animals without thought or mercy.  You happen to molest them as well as play your part in their slaughter.

A farmer too at that.  How many wild animals were exterminated to free up those acres so you can have those domesticated concubines of yours?