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Juberu#3LrT5NRVks at 20 May 2006: 11:53
Why are so many bringing up all the old posts from the start of the thread?
>>458
Conclusion: Animals are capable of informed consent because sex is a very basic part of life, which means that it isn’t difficult to figure out.
How does that follow? It looks like you just leaped from one point to another. Yes, sex is a basic, *biological* part of life. What does that have to do with the *mental* act of informed consent?
The syntax for a conclusion is
[conclusion] is true because of [premise/facts], therefore [logic linking the two]
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[conclusion] is true because of [premise/facts]. The link is obvious.
>>459
But if you really want to protect animals against people who treat animals bad, zoophiles are in general not the ones to attack, since zoophiles usually treat their animals with respect and give their animals good lives.
And my side maintains that sex with an animal is rape, regardless of how the animal is treated outside of sex. Rape is "treating animals bad".
That's it.
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