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Hello GrapeTang.

I am not meaning that I am better than people who don't bring their animals this kind of pleasure.  No one should be asked to do things they do not feel comfortable with.  I am not asking anyone to change their personal opinions wheter zoophilia is wrong or not.  What I am asking is that people who are against zoophilia stop telling others that they are wrong for doing it.

In post 608 you say "So what, I jay walk and litter, so it's okay for you to vandalize?"  Am I interpreting you correctly, if I think you're comparing slaughtering and mistreatment of animals to littering, and giving sexual stimulation to animals to vandalism?

So pleasure is wrong...  and cruelty is less wrong?

Back to post 609, you say:  "You want to think it's okay to have sex with animals because I kill and eat them? I don't think anyone needs to have the flaw in that logic spelled out for them."

I am sorry, but I do need to have the flaw in that logic spelled out for me.  Please spell it out for me, so that I can understand what you mean.

Yes, I seriously think it is okay for me to have sex with animals, because I know that the animals enjoy it, and that they are not harmed by it.   It's not okay BECAUSE you kill and eat animals, it is okay DESPITE you killing and eating animals.

But in killing and eating animals you are causing mental stress, physical pain and obvious harm to the animals.   And at the same time you are criticising someone who are doing the exact opposite.

So, in short: The fact that you are causing pain and harm to animals does not justify that I give harmless pleasure to the animals.  BUT: It does lessen your own credibility to critise those who have sex with animals.

There was a guy in the beginning of this thread, Anonymous#ns1dgrrSJ.  He is a vegan, and I feel he has full credibility in criticising what I do.  I am sad that he is not participating in this debate right now.  But wheter anyone is criticising me or not, I know that the animals enjoy to spend their time with me, and I know that I am not harming them.  I know that I am not wrong for giving them pleasure.