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Svansfall at 31 May 2006: 04:10

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Okay, I admit it was 15 years ago since I last visited a slaughterhouse.  Not exactly medieval, but still not recent.  I am sure that some slaughterhouses have good routines and heavy regulations, but I think this varies greatly from one place to another.  My country has extremely heavy regulations for how animals are to be treated, but things are still not satisfactory in my opinion.  We had even more harsh rules before, but since my country joined the EU, the EU forced us to change the rules to become less harsh, in order to make the competition more equal between the countries in the EU.  I live in Sweden, and everyone here likes to think we're so extremely humane to the animals here, believing that we're treating the animals better than they are in other countries.  When I speak to people in other countries, everyone believes the same about their own country.  The general opinion in all countries are: "Buy meat from your own country - then you know the animals have been treated better than in your neighbouring country."

I think it is best to buy locally produced meat anyway, not for the above mentioned reason, but because the long transports are really bad for the animals.  And I do believe that the grisly images you portray happen a bit of everywhere, in every country, because there are always companies who manage to slip away from under the authorities' scrutinizing gaze.

QUOTE: "What? I don't get along with people who do things that I think are bad. Hell, I've protested a couple of times, I've fought a bully, I've reported crimes, I've shunned people. If I think what you're doing is bad, I try to stop you. It's sort of the responsible thing to do. I can't imagine just sitting there and looking away if someone was doing something I truly had a problem with.  Maybe if it was just annoying... but even then I tend to say things."

Okay, sure, I have reported crimes also, but as for people who do things I don't agree with, I prefer to have a calm discussion with them, or ignore it and leave them to it.  With all the strange religious cults that exist, there are so many people in this world that would find a reason for finding anything at all bad.  Wouldn't it be horribly annoying if everyone would constantly confront everyone about everything they thought was bad?

If you shared my opinion that eating meat was bad, would you truly confront everyone about it?   Or would you do like me, give up, and resign with the knowledge that it seems a futile attempt to get people to see things the way you do?

But if I would be unable to get along with people who ate meat, then I would be terribly lonely.  Nothing good could come from that.

QUOTE: "For whatever reason, a lot of people think you should go to jail for what you do. That says to me that their convictions are pretty strong. The fact that some of them are animal rights activists can't make things easy either..."

I think a lot of those people's anger towards zoophilia is that they think we don't care about the animals, and they have not seen us interract with our animals.  If they would be able to get to know us in person, and see how the animals are doing, they could see for themselves that the animals are very happy to be in our company.

If I hadn't been a zoophile, and if I didn't know anything about how zoophiles interract with their animals, I think there is a great possibility that I would have been against it also, in the same way that I now am against all the irresponsible people who have sex with their animals without caring of the animal's wellbeing.

So, if I hadn't been a zoophile myself, I might not have known that there were responsible and caring zoophiles.  I might have thought that everyone who had sex with animals were not caring about what the animal wants or needs.

The sad thing is that the caring zoophiles are almost invisible to the public. Few of us put up personal ads to get to know others, most people are happy with their current human friends, and are already living happily with our animals.  Few caring zoophiles are interested in porn, and does not produce pictures or movies of their interraction with animals.  We feel that such things belong in private, not for everyone to see.

The people who put up personal ads on the net, like: "Does anyone have a female dog I can screw?", or "I have a male dog, is there a sexy young girl who wants to visit me, so I can watch my dog screw you?"

I mean, this seriously disgusts me and revolts me, and I think it is utterly wrong.  So, if I believed everyone who were into animals were like this, I would be against it also.

But it compares easily to heterosexual relationships.  There are rape and abuse among heterosexuals.  That doesn't mean that every heterosexual person would feel it is right to rape and abuse their partners.  It's the exact same thing with those who are attracted to animals.

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