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GrapeTang#90uMe5dJAk at 2 Jun 2006: 03:57
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For once, I'm going ot agree with you.
Uh? Anonymous agrees then?
Yeah, babbling the other side's arguments so you can smash them doesn't mean you've beaten them. Read back man, the anti-zoos that bother to explain themselves are a lot more clear than you're pretending.
My argument would be that animals don't have enough rights to be raped, because in my opinion, rape is ingoring someone's right to consent. If animals had those kind of rights, I imagine it would be rape.
Forcing somebody (or some thing) to have sex with you against there will.
Sex without consent dude. What you're describing is Violent Rape, which is a KIND of rape. Sex with minors is considered rape because even though they can technically consent, it's not good enough because it isn't informed. It protects them from agreeing to things (sex, contracts, etc) that they aren't savvy enough to understand yet, and last time I checked, the 18 year mark is there because most people are mature/educated/wise enough by then.
"Who needs evidence when you have common sense!" They would say.
Yeah, cool there buddy. Cause only the anti-zoos are doing this right? Take a look back. The zoophiles do it just as much. "They obviously consent" vs "They obviously don't". Doesn't seem so obvious to me.
We keep going in circles because we are dealing with circular arguments!
No, the circles are because people don't read before they post. They maybe skim, or read the last few, then they come up with some "stunning idea", which has already been gone over before, usually a few times.
No really, go back in the first 300 and read all the posts by Dragonflame, Juberu, Janglur, and that tripcode anon guy. They pretty much covered the basics and identified the point, before a bunch of asshats came in and just started posting the early arguments again. But if you ignore the anti-zoo 4chan /b/tards and the offended "what right do you" and "how can you say" types, you'll see some reasoning.
Well, excpet when the tripcode anon guy got pissed at janglur, and dragonflame got pissed at juberu... things kinda slow down there.
And for the record, I don't think animals are even remotely like children. Children are WAY more intelligent than any animal. They're little people, not animals.
That, and now that meat eating is ebbing out of this thing, I'm leaning back toward neutrality again. I still don't think bestiality is right; I just don't think it's a big deal. It's more humiliating than evil from my perspective... like when Jim was caught fucking the pie type thing. I suppose I might feel different if I ever caught someone with my dog or something though.
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