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GrapeTang#90uMe5dJAk at 24 Jun 2006: 17:41
>>899
Sorry dude. I use caps for emphasis, not net shouting. I would have used italics, but I can't. I can see the mix-up though.
>>906
Oh Noes, an internet tough guy.
What kind of asshole are you to tell me what I can and cannot say?
Legality is a mater of fact, but disgust is a mater of opinion, so quit stating it as fact.
Seriously? And you call me thick? That's awesome!
Okay, buddy, prove it. Show me, point by point, how the profiles of zoophiles and pedophiles are in lock step.
Uh... pedophiles? Them too I guess, but I said sexual predators, including the asshole that you wouldn't let near your sister. I'm not going to prove it, because it's common sense, and if you don't see it, nothing I say will make you see it... especially since I did go through it step by step.
"Lack of dissent is lack of dissent, dissent is dissent, and consent is consent."
Next time quote the whole thing. Makes you sound ignorant when you bring things up out of context.
You’re so hell-bent on proving that bestiality is immoral that you can't even see past your own bias and how it distorts your view of reality and how you see this discussion.
Go back and read all the posts by GrapeTang. I think bestiality is probably wrong, and I do think it's gross, but ultimately I'm a fence sitter. I think eating boogers is gross too, but I don't think people should go to jail for it. Jesus, what are you, 14? Respond to what people say, not what you trhink they say.
But my analogy between the meat industry and zoosexuality is pertinent because consent isn't the issue I care about, nor do I care about human behavior or standards of practice. The issue that is relevant to me is animal cruelty, since cruel things are often immoral.
Well, that's fine I guess, but most of the people here are arguing consent, so... you know... what's your point then? Humans are mean to animals? Uh, DUH! Is it right? Probably not. There you go, you win, people are immoral etc etc. Welcome aboard.
What's really anoying is how thick and biased you are.
Yeah yeah, I'm a total savage. You may call me grug. Now go practice reading, and maybe do something about some of that self important angst. You're coming off as immature, and it's hard to take your arguments seriously.
>>913
Cool man, I think I get it. Insanity means that you aren't able to see your duty, and you divide actions and intentions. That actually works. Actions can be moral or immoral, and as rational people, we're obligated to ensure the moral actions and prevent the immoral actions, otherwise we become immoral people.
Course, we still need to work out what IS moral and immoral. Closest I can figure is a complex system of putting yourself in the other's shoes, but by the time people become mature enough to handle this kind of thing, they're too burried in their possessions and lifestyle to risk jeopardizing it on behalf of "mere morals". Kind of a downer really.
>>916
Okay, then I'm sticking to the computer analogy. As far as I can tell, by using a computer, you're saying that it's okay for animals and habitat to be obliterated so that you can have the luxury of a computer, with which to argue on the internet, and other important things like that. My reasoning for you advocating all those animals being killed: you have a computer, and you haven't gotten rid of it.
Don't worry though. I'm with you on that one... but I will point out the irony that you're so gung-ho about, oh, not eating meat because it's unnecessary (we can do without it, and it causes undo harm tot he animals etc), yet you have a computer, and likely, all the other modern conviniences that come at a price of mass animal death, among other things.
Of course, by this reasoning, finger fucking your cows is a relatively minor point, no where near the scale of suffering and depravity towards animals that results just by being a modern human... but you aren't saying bestiality is a lesser evil, you're saying it's good, and I don't buy that.
>>919 Yeah... bigger than I thought too among the furries. Just don't spread it around too much. The 4Channers are already annoying enough; we don't need to prove them right about something.
>>918 Dude, Xenofur's totally going to get post 1000. If I were him, I'd have this thing set to autolock at 999, just so I could get the 1000 get. :p
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