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GrapeTang#90uMe5dJAk at 29 Jun 2006: 04:15
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milking, semen gathering, butchering, and simaler activities
are no more nessisary than zoophilia - they are all activities that bring pleasure to man in one manner or another.
am I worng in that statement?
Yes an no dude. If zoophiles have to give up sex with animals, that's it. It won't hurt them any more than giving up porn would hurt me. Annoying, but not damaging, unless I'm WAY too into it (and them, etc.) Semen gathering I can't speak for... I imagine a lot of people would lose their jobs, and animal breeding would become a bunch less efficient... but the other two:
Millions of people are employed by the meat and milking industry, and trillions of dollars are tied up in it. To this end, yes, it has become necessary. It's part of our lives, it's part of our heritage, and it runs so deep that it can't be given up without literally ruining more lives than I think anyone can justify just because they want people to concede to their opinion.
On the other hand, with a proper diet of soy, beans, nuts, and some vegetable high in lipids, humans "could" survive on an entirely vegetable diet. So in that respect, they aren't anymore necessary than zoopillia.
Now, I see a lot of people who say "The people who worked making meat could work on vegetable farms instead". I'm not even gonna be polite about it. That's a stupid and juvenile solution that omits reality itself. A nice dream maybe, but while you're at it, throw in immortality and intergalactic travel too, cause they're both far fetched.
First of all, you'd need to somehow come up with the resources to turn all the ranches, plants, and warehouses involved in the meat industry, and turn them into vegetable processing and storage apparatus. That sounds simple, but it would cost so much money that I can't even hazard a guess at the capital you'd need to come up with, and quickly.
Second, you'd need to retrain all those people, or find something for them to do, or reimburse them for the livelihood they just lost. There’s a lot of them, so this means, besides the time and effort involved, more money. Even if this was done gradually over years, you’d need to train people, you’d need to find a place for those who are displaced, and you need the materials to kick start the new industry: money money money.
Thirdly, people don’t want to. They like eating meat, and as such, it’s relevant to their interests to resist any idea that threatens that lifestyle. It doesn’t make them right, but it’s still a hurdle that would need to be dealt with. Meat is easy to get, it tastes good, and it doesn’t require a special course in order to figure out how to avoid starving while eating it. Vegan diets are complicated, and if you don’t swing that way, disgusting as hell. I’ve eaten vegan food before. The goldfish my frat made me swallow are more appealing.
Fourth, the animals you’re trying to protect will suddenly become obsolete, and they’ll largely die off. While cows probably don’t appreciate being slaughtered, they are slaughtered in measure, and protected and sustained by those who farm them. Same with the others. In a manner that is, whether you like it or not, similar to nature’s model, humans use animals to survive. Think about it. Predators cull herds, and defend their territory against other predators so as not to have their stock overdrawn. Humans do something similar, but we exaggerate it: we make it more efficient. In this manner, a small portion of the population can provide food for everyone.
If we aren’t using these animals in this manner, it wouldn’t make any sense to keep them. Releasing them would destroy the ecosystem they were let go in, or it would wipe them out, or every now and then, they would adapt without wiping things out (but not very often). Since it isn’t exactly cool to destroy a natural environment with tampered animals, what you’d probably see is a mass “final” slaughter of almost every domestic food animal, unless you could somehow convince a good chunk of humanity to practically enslave themselves to these animals; sustaining them just for the purposes of sustaining them... but that’d never happen, and it’d cost too much money even if people were willing.
Finally, after all was said and done... it wouldn’t make a difference. There are a lot of people on this planet, and they need to eat. That means a whole lot of vegetables, which means a whole lot of land, which means a whole lot of natural habitat (that animals are living on) would need to be commandeered on behalf of the hungry masses. Any existing preserves or farms with animals would eventually be confiscated toward this end, just as land is taken and used now... but, I guess, it’s easier to slaughter a whole region of wildlife so you can eat zucchini than to slaughter a whole region of wildlife so you can eat beef. I mean, the cow’s dead either way, since that land’s used either to raise and slaughter the cow, or to grow crops... but apparently, one way is more humane or something.
Meanwhile, if zoophiles have to give up having sex with animals: No massive industry is displaced, no livelihoods are lost, no huge amounts of capital are displaced, and no alternative, equally destructive practice needs to pop up in it’s place. They could just look at themselves in the mirror one day, and say “No more”, and their lives would be no less rich: well, except for all the self important angst and melodrama. They would probably suffer as much as someone who had to give up coffee, or maybe, in the extreme cases, as much as someone who broke up with their girlfriend (which just screams freakish obsession to me, but whatever).
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All that aside, even if milking, butchering, and artificial insemination are wrong, or right, whatever: doesn’t mean that bestiality is right or wrong.
I think I covered it all there... thorough, clear, I hope.
OH! For those of you who think I’m bullshitting about how big the meat industry is, just use a little common sense. There’s the ranchers, the butchers, the refrigerator truck drivers, the health inspectors, the people working in the markets selling and preparing meat, the people who make tools for butchering, and preparing meat, the people who build the refrigeration units for the trucks, storage houses, restaurant coolers, etc, and the people who produce, ship, and peddle the condiments used on meat... not to mention the dog food industry (plus shipping and distributing), the leather industry (plus shipping and distributing), and so on.
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