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Ryu at 1 Jun 2006: 14:10

I originally raised the question on /crit - here: http://fchan.hentaiplanet.net/crit/res/1294.html - but figured it better to continue it on /dis.

I was thinking (Never a good idea), and had a thought - Why is it, that a cat anthro with 2 human breasts (Albeit with fur) is considered "less freaky" and "sexier" by the wider population, furry or non, than a catgirl who has breasts that are as equally anthropomorphic (ie. multiple breasts, smaller). Lizards are another good example, lizards don't have a penis, they have two small structures called hemipenes, but male lizard scalies virtually always have a human-like penis (Probably just as well hemipenes are not exactly photogenic)

You'd think that having a non human creature, with human sexual organs would freak people out, but it doesn't, or at least, the effect is less than them having "correctly" anthropomorphosied counterparts.

Just wondering if anyone had any theories on the mindset behind that and what your feelings are on it - Think it's more "artistic" to slap human bits, or keep it in line with their overall anthropomorphism (If they're half catlike, so are the breasts)

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at 1 Jun 2006: 14:18

What type of logic is this? Seems pretty reverse to think that seeing human features on anything would weird people out.

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at 1 Jun 2006: 14:30

No it's not that human features weird people out, it's seeing human features where they shouldn't logically belong. If you saw a pig with human hands and feet it'd weird you out. If you saw a cat with human breasts it'd also look "wrong", if you see a human with cat teats it'd look freaky too. But a furry (Half humand, half animal concept) with human breasts looks normal, but a furry with a blended human/cat version looks freaky.

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at 1 Jun 2006: 16:35

Um... 6 breasts is weird looking, the majority of people are attracted to the human form and they only have 2.  And a hemepenes or whatever the fuck it is is just disgusting.  I don't like knots or any other outlandish animal attribute.  Fur and a snout work fine for me.

And your logic is absolutely bizarre by the way. This is PORN, most people don't give a shit about realism.

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at 1 Jun 2006: 17:53

*Points to /c* - I was asking here because I *hoped* that a community of anthro fans might actually be able to discuss anthropomorphism in forms _besides_ porn.

Meh forget it, not going to get a discussion in /dis... bizarrely

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at 1 Jun 2006: 18:30

>>5
HAHAHAHAHAa.  You're complaining about people prefering human sex organs over some bizarre animal sex organs and you WEREN'T talking about porn?  Am i hearing that right? 

When the hell would 6 breasts and a fucking lizards version of a cock be an issue outside of a porn setting?!!?

You failed

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Speet! at 1 Jun 2006: 18:35

>>6
>>You're complaining
Not a complaint, a question.
>>You failed
This is not a contest. It's a discussion. Check your attitude.

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GrapeTang#90uMe5dJAk at 1 Jun 2006: 18:56

>>1

Nah man, not so hard to figure out. We're still humans after all, and even if we find some animal feature attractive (or want something outlandish and what not), a lot of us are still attracted to something that's basically human. Look at scalies for example. A lot of them argue that scaly womens (dragonesses and such) shouldn't have breasts because they're egg laying/cold blooded, etc. Well... yeah, but the other half comes back with "I like boobies".

As for why it's freaky... it isn't so much I don't think. It's just that a lot more people like the two breast variety, while the minority likes the more anatomicaly intuitive stuff... so more people find the six boobs unattractive than find it attractive, so it gets labled as freaky.

I think...

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at 1 Jun 2006: 19:12

If it's got an animal-like head and tail, and it's covered in fur/scales/feathers, but the body is that of a sexy human most of us expect it to have sexy human parts.

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at 2 Jun 2006: 00:42

>>7
I give you a B- for evading the subject!

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Sylern at 2 Jun 2006: 14:57

Its that whole uncanny valley thing, but long before the valley.

The basic ghist is this...as a creature becomes more and more like  a human, humanity as a whole starts to be more and more sympathetic to it.  To this point that is why many prefer anthro's to be as human like (but not too humanlike) as possible.  That is why they want breasts on a female..because human females have breasts.

What most furs and fur fans happen to like...is just a human with fur, tail, ears and a muzzle...sometimes not even that much.

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Speet! at 2 Jun 2006: 14:59

>>10
Oh, I addressed it in >>9 anonymously.

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at 2 Jun 2006: 17:26

>>12
You didn't address jack.  I was trying to get #5 to tell me what relevence 6 boobed freak girls and hemepenored lizards have outside of a porn setting.

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Wolfblade at 3 Jun 2006: 01:10

http://www.arclight.net/~pdb/nonfiction/uncanny-valley.html

This probably explains the uncanny valley best.

Basically, the more human something NOT human gets, the more we can sympathise with it, and find it appealing. To a point. When something gets >too< human, but still no quite there, it's less appealing than something farther away from being human.

Different strokes for different folks of course, so everyone's "uncanny valley" has a different range. And some people don't seem to have one at all, and can just find absolutely anything appealing.

Some people like the "correct" animal anatomical bits more than human anatomy on a fur/scalie. >Usually<, not ALWAYS, this is most common in people with zoo tendencies. They have a bit of interest in animal anatomy anyway, so sticking those traits on an anthro makes it a bit more acceptable to be attracted to them. I'm not saying everyone who likes anthros with dog cocks is a zoo. Just saying that it is usually the case that they're at least a bit more zoo-curious than you standard vanilla fur.

And then some people are just freaks and like weird shit with no real reason behind it. People just like what they like sometimes. ^_^

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at 3 Jun 2006: 20:30

I like humans, i have sex with humans in real life.  Before i got into furry i never new what a dogs penis looked like or a hemepenis because i like human bits.  I agree with >>14 that if you like all that bizarre animal sexual anatomy that you probably are fantasizing about more than humans when you rub one off before bed.  And that makes you the vast majority while the vast minority acctually has attraction to that stuff.

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at 4 Jun 2006: 18:09

"You'd think that having a non human creature, with human sexual organs would freak people out"

Naw, i'm pretty sure only you would think that. 

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