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Theoretical Questions Regarding Fursonas (3)

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Guan at 16 Jun 2006: 11:21

This relates to an earlier question presented here, so hey.

1. If you were to find out that your fursona existed somewhere in this or another world and that you had the opportunity to meet up with him/her/hir/etc., what would be the first thing you two would do together? Before any of you start, saying you'd have sex is just cheap, so think a little harder.  ;}~

2. Same as the first question, only this time I want you to think of your furry mate or best friend and imagine that he or she were to become transformed into HIS or HER fursona, you being the first to know and meet with him/her/hir/etc about it.  How would you react?  Sex is not the answer...well okay, it is AN answer, but try and move past that if you please.  :P

3. What if you were to wake up and discover that YOU were your fursona?  This may be more difficult for some than others (Here I'm thinking of macros and other massive furs), but what would be the first thing you'd do?  Once again, masturbation/sex seems too easy to be considered an option, though you're free to mention it in passing.  :}

My answers (Besides doing yiff stuff):
1. I would have a long conversation about my character's history, background, life as an iguanko, etc. while taking notes vigorously.  This would be done on a forest cliff, watching the red sun set into the ocean in a way that only countless adjectives and prose can describe.  Call me idealistic or whatever.
2. My mate's fursona is a Blackfoot and the spirit of a wolf, so I get the feeling we would be going on a LONG and very spiritual journey together. 
3. Being a 7'0" iguanagecko morph, I'd probably panic and resort to friends for help while trying to get used to not being 5'6" anymore by bumping my head on many doorframes and ceiling fans.  Also, I'd be VERY discreet.  Call me crazy, but I don't wanna be locked up in a cage and prodded with science things.  o..o

I answered briefly, but feel free to give long answers to your heart's content.  You don't have to answer them all.  ^..^

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at 16 Jun 2006: 16:00

1) I'd ask him (me?) to convert me into a copy of him. (My fursona can do this. Nanites are handy.) Then we'd do Kinky Stuff.

2) I would say "hi," and they would probably eat me.

3) I'd probably go back to sleep for another hour or two. Then I'd get up and eat breakfast, and play video games until I have to do something more important. I'd then wander out nekkid until I got arrested for indecent exposure, because it's hot enough being human and wearing pants in the summer, I ain't gonna do it with fur.

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at 17 Jun 2006: 00:52

1. I'd be creeped out. That's all I'm gonna say.
2. I'd be happy, because his fursona is incredibly cute :D
3. Again, I'd be happy, because my fursona is incredibly cute :D

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Bizzle at 17 Jun 2006: 01:09

Does anyone have a fursona that isn't cute?  Dude I swear, if I ever decide to make one up, he'll be the furry equivilant of Carl from Aqua Teen Hunger Force.

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at 17 Jun 2006: 16:24

>>4  Well, it's a hard thing to manage in furry, as our baseline for attractiveness is already fucked up - Remember to 'normal' people, being a 'dog' or 'horse faced' means you're ugly as sin, but what happens when folks find dog and horse features aesthetically pleasing? 

Hell, half the things 'normal' folks find horrifying, we find sexy - werewolves and demons and half-human things of all sorts.

It'd take quite the effort to create a character that was still 'furry' and considered ugly - Trust me, I've even drawn things that are scared and maimed and people think it's 'cute' and adds the the appeal.  :P

On topic:  Studying anatomy and 'doing kinky shit' rates pretty high on things I'd be wanting to do, though for number 1, I'd be curious what his life as a furry was like compared to my own (since we essentially are the same, personality wise).  And if I woke up as my 'fursona', I'd get well armed and probably head up into the rockies as quickly and quietly as possible...  I think the world sucks already, and it'd be twice as unpleasant if I was a literal 'furry freak'.  No illusions here.  :P

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Mantisfur at 17 Jun 2006: 16:39

1) My fursona is an anthropomorphic mantis. So he's really small. He's also telepathic, and very friendly. All of this combined, I'd probably be very careful not to hurt him when I picked him up or took him places and talk to him alot. I'd probably keep him in my pocket and always wear shirts with a front pocket. It wouldn't really be possible for us to have sex, so I'd probably tease him into masturbating for me. He's a shameless horny little thing, and a furvert. He'd probably want to read all the time, so I'd read books to him. We'd probably fall in love after a few weeks or a month and I'd cry alot and wish I was his size. He'd hop up on my shoulder and lick my cheek or my ear and try to give me a tiny little hug.

2) I'm new to the furry scene, and I dont have any close friends who are furrys. I wish I did, and that's why I got started posting here on these forums. I was hoping to meet people and make new friends that were furrys like me. :)

3) If I became Wintermute (my mantis fursona) the first thing I'd do is be very afraid and confused about what had just happened to me. Then I'd be extremely excited about no longer having to live the same dull, boring and drab life of a human being. I'd probably be bothered about my size. Although, as a natural telepath, I could probably find someone in my house and communicate with them what had happened. I would probably turn on my webcam and tell all my internet friends too. I would get my grandmother to take me to my work and I'd quit. Then I'd try to figure out a way to avoid any publicity. I'd try very hard -not- to get noticed by the media, because if I became a celebrity, I'd have to worry about getting captured and experimented on and all kinds of terrible things like that. Human beings are really sick and evil that way. I'd probably be depressed after awhile that I was immortal. Wintermute doesn't age. I'm not sure what I'd do to pass the time except try to convince one of my best friends to let me live with them so I could have someone to help me move heavy objects - which would be almost everything around me.

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Bizzle at 17 Jun 2006: 16:52

>>5  That is an outstanding point.  Perhaps a better question for me to have asked wouold have been, "why does just about every furry make their character after their own aesthetic ideal?".  That may be better as the subjet of a seperate topic, though.

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Guan at 17 Jun 2006: 18:10

>>7 Much appreciated.  You'd probably get more of a response that way besides, considering how semi-serious to silly this thread kinda is.  Hell, I might even respond to a thread like that if I don't get too busy/lazy at the time.

Oh, and it's spelled "separate".  A surprising number of people forget that, I find, thus my unhealthy compulsion to correct that particular word.  Plz not to rant on me kthx.  o..o

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at 17 Jun 2006: 18:57

Most fursona's personalities don’t match that of their player - the fursona tends to be more confident, assertive, and have higher social status. If someone was physically transformed, they might look like their fursona, but they still wouldn’t be their fursona. Transforming into a wolf (or whatever species) won’t automatically transform your life (if you have a menial job as a human, you’ll have the same menial job as a wolf). So, anyone who is transformed would probably feel disappointed.

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Guan at 17 Jun 2006: 20:20

>>9 Really?  Let me get this right: if I were to come into work a foot and a half longer with a tail the length of my body and lots of green scales with a lot of teeth and stuff, there wouldn't be any change in public perception.  Yeah, most people where I'm from wouldn't notice either.  :P

Emotion-wise, to elaborate on 3...my character already has a lot of the same traits that I do IRL, so I wouldn't feel too disappointed, with the exception that I've written Guan to speak Chinese and Hindu fluently and that I would have to get used to the feeling of being very large in a short amount of time.  Plus, the whole tail thing.  I'm expecting that most people would, after careful consideration, not really have a large desire to be their fursona, given how difficult it would be to get accustomed to, some more than others...

Now if the entire world were to be in a furry kind of state...but that's a bit too large a subject even for this thread.  :P

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Mantisfur at 17 Jun 2006: 20:49

In answer to your question reguarding aesthetics, and to save everyone the trouble of making another thread, I'll offer an answer here.


Some people make fursonas that appeal to their own ideals because many of us are unsatisfied with our own lives, and we feel like we did not have the choice about the events that formed much of our psyches as children. We feel we were not given the choice of what creature we wished to be born as, and we feel were not did not choose the painful series of experiences that have brought us into who we have become.

I say "we feel" because nobody has proven that we don't actually choose our own lives before we are born. It is a matter of opinion. And many of us feel a disparity in our lives between what we have become and what we wish to be. Thus, we seek ways of expressing who we want to be that will not bring exessive ridicule and pain from the oppressive capitalist-consumer ethos of modern society. The furry sub-culture provides some of us with acceptance by our peers, and the opportunity to behave and identify ourselves in the ways we wish to be seen and appreciated for.

I fall into a category of furry fan called "Otherkin." For me, the liberation of roleplaying or even simply meditating on my chosen furry species grants me feelings of transcendent awareness of self, which I can only describe as silent empowering bliss that carries me through my day. When I make any statement beginning with the words, "I am, " I am declaring my existence and defining how I exist. Most people make this statement casually and do not consider what they are saying on a deeper level than the immediate entertaining value of what they read or hear.

I am a creator. And I created Wintermute, my alter-self and anthropomorphic mantis fursona. Wintermute exists, to be experienced by every method of consciousness available to those who are aware of him. I do not concern myself with objective values such as "alive" or "tangible." The value of what I have created carries an impression that words alone cannot communicate. Those of us who create fursonas that others label as "cute" are often not concerned with their cuteness, as our creation is meant to serve us and not the world. We feel praised when they are called such, but the praise is not nessecary. Those of us who intentionally create a fursona to be cute in order to appeal to the world and require that praise to feel confident about what we have made likely do so out of a feeling of insecurity within themselves.

I hope my long answer provides a complete one, and sheds insight into your curiosity.

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at 17 Jun 2006: 22:03

>>7  Because who really wants to be ugly to themselves?  My 'character' has evolved over time from an idealized fantasy to more of a 'me with fur' not because I don't have any lingering desire to be more attractive than I am (I'm not that enlightened yet) but just because my definition of 'attractive' has broadened since my youth, and having a more realistic character serves my purposes now better than a fantasy would (details of which would be wandering even more way off topic...) 

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Bizzle at 18 Jun 2006: 00:41

*drunk*

>>8  Oh, I don't mind the correction.  I know full well that my spelling is for shit.  It always has been.

>>9  Yeah, I've noticed that too.  To me it seems akin to the Mary Sue phenominon.

>>10  Well, if you happen to be from North Florida, you would probably be able blend into a Wal-Mart fairly well.  If not, yeah, people would certainly notice.

You are absolutely right--it would be profoundly difficult to get accostomed to being one's persona.  With all the negative ramafications involved, I would imagine that one would decide rather quickly that they want to go back.

>>11  In all seriousness, get help, please.  All the best to you, buddy.

>>12  Yes, nobody want's to be ugly.  It is difficult to have a wish-fulfillment fantasy where you repulse those around you, but why then do we see no characters who are merely plain?  Does that reflect a shallowness in us all?  Certainly, ordinary-looking people can do extraordinary things.  Why, in our minds, must their appearances match their deeds as though they were the driving force behind those deeds?  This is not the case in other creative mediums, or at least it is not so prevalent.  Maybe the answer is as simple as a general lack of creative ability, although I am fairly certain that the issue is far deeper than that.

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Southpaw at 18 Jun 2006: 06:48

Lets get some realistic answers here.

If you saw your own personality .. you'd not freak out. But you would do a doubletake. No one and I don't give a crap out much you  think it. No one could or would have a long conversation. It would be a "Hey.. whats up?" kind of thing. Well being very envious and excited. Also note that your personality doesn't have to be the same gender as you. Human beings like company its an ego booster and makes you react to the enviroment differently. Easy enough. Next!


...Now I can see the possibility of people hugging. But do you think your personality would want to do that. Considering it is you after all just different aestetics.

Now if you became your personality- again you'd not freak out. second glance in the mirror as you wake up and go.. "the hell?"
 And glance at your body and all its attributes. Obviously checking the sexual organs within the first 5 seconds.
Also MAY I POINT OUT. That even though what you see with your eyes is what you'd like to look like. Your brain does not quite interpret the same. So in definition you'd look as you would in your head not in your eyes. Which could be quite different then what you wanted. If I became my personality I'd become something my brian wants ME to. Not what "I" want to be.

Your self projection is something you'll never know of. But we can dream can't we?

If someone else transformed into there desire.. it'd be the same as my first answer.

People just want to be hugged and kissed and have company. To feel comfortably numb and excepted. That is what it means to be a primate. Human beings rock! Alot of you furries take for granted that we can make up and think thoughts like this. Our brain is a powerful and wonderous tool. But it is dangerous and very demanding.

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at 18 Jun 2006: 09:43

>>10
You're right: people would notice a giant talking lizard. The government would probably quarantine and study you.

But, let's assume that furry creatures were common and accepted into our society, so that being a tall green lizard would be no more unusual that being a tall black man. Well, becoming a tall black man does not automatically make someone into a professional basketball player (South Park created an episode about this exact subject). Black people can be nerds too. And, in a furry world, so can giant green lizards. If you exhibit introverted body language, you'll be perceived as a nerd, regardless of what species' skin you wear.

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Guan at 18 Jun 2006: 14:51

>>14 Okay, first of all, I do not like the overdone notion of grouping all people in one category and then extrapolating from there.  While your rationale is acceptable in some cases, there's a big problem with applying it to everyone else, namely that it, well, sorta doesn't apply to everyone.  There's a reason I'm asking individuals to share their own thoughts on what THEY as individuals would do in these situations, not what people as a whole would do.  Frankly, there will be different reactions to this and different ways of handling, considering that everyone is unique in how they perceive and react to their environment.  I'm sorry, but applied to all three questions I presented, some people WOULD freak out  Some wouldn't.  Some would be incredibly joyous.  Some would be distraught beyond measure.  Some--and this is more to question 1 and 2, would hold long conversations.  Some would be absolutely apathetic.  Most will have a mix of various degrees of these feelings and more.  And so on.  Also remember, little in our personalities is hardly ever constant.  While I am incredibly affectionate most of the time, there are days when I actually have personal space and don't want it invaded by anyone, much less hugged or kissed. 

I do agree that we should detach the idea that a character will appear to us and behave according to our wishes and perceptions.  That would be asking too much.  However, do not assume that all furs create their characters based on their own idealized version of themselves.  My character is not a good example, although I consider Guan to be less an extension of my self (which he is to a degree) and more a separate entity, much like a major character to an author of a novel.  I admit that very few people, from what I've seen, can altogether escape putting themselves into their fursonas.  Still, keep in mind Even I haven't written Guan's entire story.  I've left it open-ended.  If I were to meet my character, IN MY CASE I'd want the blanks filled in because they would not be in my realm of knowledge.  I don't want my character to be entirely my creation.  Lazy?  Yes, but that's just me.  Not everyone else.

Well, hopefully a little of that made sense.  I don't like coming off as attacking or condescending (and I can't really do a great deal about coming off as rambling or scatterbrained), so if it feels like I'm telling you things you already know...well, apply it to someone out there who doesn't, if you must.  :P

>>15 And that's why I didn't incorporate that into the third question.  Once the idea of a furry society enters the equation, you suddenly open all sorts of doors in the process such as the possible chaos that would ensure, conflicting individual perceptions of what that society would entail, whether humans would be in the equation too or just furs, the definiton of furry itself, etc.  See what I mean?  Way too theoretical.  I'm not interested in opening that strong of a can of worms, at least not in this thread. 

Oh, and don't get me wrong, I try hard not to buy into stereotypes; I'm a more-homo-then-hetero, Midwestern, more-Irish-than-not male who drinks very rarely, doesn't know jack about farming, and registers a very low score on gaydar. As for Guan, while he may indeed be perceived as berdy, he's probably less at risk of getting beaten around for it, perhaps?  I hate to say it, but size does matter to a degree.  ;}

Boy, is this going in a direction I half expected it to.  Not that I'm preventing much.  o..o

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at 18 Jun 2006: 16:41

I'm probably repeating a point here(infact I know I am), but I'm pretty sure thatatleast partly why 99.999999% of furries[with fursonas] became furries[with fursonas], was to reinvent themselves around people who don't know how they act in real life. So, most furries probably have atleast semi-underdeveloped social skills, I'm not meaning that as an insult, I'm the first to admit that I have this problem in real life. This usually stems because they're different in some way than most people they know in real life. So, they turn to the internet, and find people who are like them. They feel like they belong there, so they stay. Because they're around people who are like-minded and don't feel threatened, they freely share ideas and talk more openly about things that interest them.

This can be mistakeningly perceived as a gain in self-confidence in the mind of the actual person, but it's not. It just serves to further socially isolate them while reinforcing whatever negative thing they felt isolated them from real society. When they lose that support structure(none of the RP froups I've experienced have stayed together forever), the cycle starts over, each time it gets worse and worse, until the person absolutely can't talk with anyone in real life and relies on their internet support group for all supprot and socialization.

Either this happens, or the person starts to view whatever they felt ostracized them from society as totally normal. This can be good, as it can help them remeld back into real life society, but it can be bad if thing is something that isn't accepted in real society, and this can actually be worse than the first scenario mentioned in terms of social avoidance.

So that was a whole lotta wasted breath.



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Southpaw at 18 Jun 2006: 19:35

>>16 I was just stating the general reaction basis. Most people would be in the same mood they are when for instance the day before they go over to a friends house but know they are gonna go there. You get all juxtaposed and worked up and excited as heck. But then when you get there, you get all quiet for a little bit and think it over.

If furries existed, human knowledge would indeed want to study and do test upon test on them. You'd be hunted down to be learned about. Racism would be a whole new ballgame- ironcly though skin color would no longer be the border line, now humans would actually have a reason to judge instead of judge upon previous accounts of history. Furries probally wouldn't be accepted in human society. Since we populate most of physical land on this planet.. it would be difficult to start a civilization of outcasts successfully. They would be enslaved for "dangerous jobs".. lab rats >:X

 As for your own character. May I point out regardless of the story you wrote. Realize you wrote the story that is written down becomes the past. What lies around the bend is the future, uncharted unwritten and inevitable. The present is just living the moment. No condensending or propetual thoughts. Just being. Therefore what you written cannot in the future/present happen and is just an account of the present which you decided to write down for it becomes the past. -I hope that made sense it sounds a bit out of the park. It is just information stored unto paper, this is what history is all about!

I have a quote for this. Although grammaricly it is very uncorrect I still use it, "I am your god of your own world." It means you control everything that affects you. You make your own problems and cause your own stress,joy,happiness-etc. I have a serious problem with my imagination.

You see- I'll create lucious planets, gorgeous characters, awesome cultures. But then I'll just pitch it in the trash can because I got bored of it I want something fresh and new. Something DIFFERENT. Even if I do things that haven't been done before.. I'll change it up again. Why I could never keep a "fursona" why I will never be able too. It's just too damn much of a hassle. What seems to be older from when I started this furry thing comes from the early 2000-2001 period. It's kinda locked in my head which sucks because some of it I don't really want.
I just can never decide what I want to be.. so screw that. I'll just say myself( although I try.. drawing this and that!.. pfft). If I could have any wish I'd want the earth to be richened with mana. That'd be freaking awesome.

>>17 Your right. Furries are just a sociological mental attachment. Just on another basis. The furry fandom is another victim of the lovely process of miosis thats all it is. The brain can become attached and addicted to bad feelings such as depression and anguish. Especially the feeling of guilt and stress. Alot of people never encorporate addictions with negative thoughts.

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Mantisfur at 19 Jun 2006: 01:06

Why people make cute furs is a question so easy to answer, you almost want to ask the snakes on this plane what they think just for some random originality.

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at 19 Jun 2006: 01:25

the real question is, would your fursona even want to look at you? probably not, furries are on a whole other level of hotness. we would look like those starving ethiopians to them, just ugly greesey and unwashed.

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Bizzle at 19 Jun 2006: 01:55

>>18  "You see- I'll create lucious planets, gorgeous characters, awesome cultures. But then I'll just pitch it in the trash can because I got bored of it I want something fresh and new. Something DIFFERENT."

I feel ya.  If I ever complete anything of consequence, I will be surprised.  Maybe we're ADD?  I'm kidding, of course.

>>19  Yes, wish-fulfillment is the obvious answer to why they do so.  Essentially, it is intellectual masturbation.  My question is, why is it so rare that any of us moves beyond that embryonic stage of creativity?  Why do we cling so exclusively to our simplest fantasies?  I'm not knocking it.  That kind of thing makes for good porn!  (see the Zig Zag thread)  Whatever gets you off, so to speak.  It's just a phenominon that I have noticed that I have no good explaination for.

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Guan at 19 Jun 2006: 02:18

>>20 Does this mean an anthropomorphic character can't embody those traits as well?  I'm not especially aesthetically fond of Chimera Synx's rather creepily anatomied character myself, but hey.  Eye of the beholder and jazz.  As for the greasy and unwashed part, rumor has it there is a magical device called a "shower" that employs a mystical combination of agents commonly referred to "soap and water" that one can theoretically use on the body as taught by experience and family tradition.  Amazingly, I own of these items, have been using it for a long time now, and--even more amazing--STILL use it every day to this day.  Try it and witness your life change overnight!  PRAISE!

Or just take a bath.  Seriously dude.  :P

>>21 Yeah, I tend to hold more respect en principle toward furs who actually attempt to put a complex personality into their character rather than cast them off as one-dimensional toys and single purpose idealizations.  It's another reason I've asked these questions: to try and encourage creative thought from those willing to respond, to break free of the puppet strings in a way. 

Also--I will admit--I was interested in how many people shape their fursonas based on their spirit guides (I don't, but I like to hear from people like my mate who do), but it doesn't look like I'll be generating much of a response there.  However, while to me it's a shame that more people aren't answering the questions I originally posted, I'm sort of enjoying the direction this is going.  Seeing how I don't really have any new ideas to contribute here, I think I'll stay involved very passively in the debatings until this runs out of steam...which may take a while.  T..T

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Robby Seabird at 19 Jun 2006: 03:16

Answer to all three.

I'd give up LSD. For good this time.

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at 19 Jun 2006: 03:48

>>23
  That's what they always say.  It's always 'for good this time'...  ;)

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Southpaw at 19 Jun 2006: 06:32

>>22 People shape their fursonas out of things which at the time they liked or have interest in. Attributes which people notice about you becomes essentially what you become. Alot of furries are second or third generation forms of fan-characters which they saw in media(comics/TV/books..etc). Within a couple weeks mod them and make them their own creation. Some of them are creations of outer extensions from video games. For instance people who make thouse taurens. Its not their idea, but they embrace it and make it their own to produce lore all of its own.

Some of them are just random creations. Most of which mine are. You just take in some information and make it unto paper. I try to get people to talk to me. I like listening because I want to see what THEY think of me. What should "I" be? Can you help me?.. too many people say "your a wolf" well your just saying that because YOU like wolves. This is always a dead end.( I still want to know what other people have to say about me!)

Alot of them our products of depression and negative thoughts. A way to release themselves from the real-world and get lost in a fictional world that is considered "a utopia."

Well I never understood this. I personally don't get guys that make hermaphrodite characters. Does this tell you alot about their sexuality or rather some sort of inner sanctum? I've always found it somewhat strange for herms become superficial on paper. They'll have extreme feminine figure but the male attribute of a penis/testicles. Could this be a sign of penis envy? Who knows. Maybe its just a double standard?
 What about guys that have female anatomy? You rarely see any of those. They all make these giant breasted large dicked chicks.

The brain is truely still a vast mystery to all of us.


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Guan at 19 Jun 2006: 13:50

>>25 Actually, I have some of those ladies with male figures in my FA gallery, if you'd like to check.  Then again, considering they are reptiles, you might consider that cheating, applying more a particular species' qualities to further anthromorphize and thus distance a character from its originally human qualities.  I just thought it'd be more anatomically sensible.  I dunno.  I quite enjoy how the questions you present don't have one solid answer, no sarcasm intended.

As far as whatever "What you are" means...well, frankly dude, no one can really answer that for you.  My mate never really needed anyone to tell him what he wanted his fursona to be; according to his totemistic belief background, it's been in him all along.  But that's a different situation.  My character really came about from the fact that when I decided to get a little more involved with the fandom, I didn't take my character too seriously.  As a result, I've been evolving Guan gradually over the years, putting in various small factors and refining his traits to be either more aesthetically pleasing or more accurate to his nature...I'm sure this could be analyzed as a man updating a prize possession or something, but no big.  I'm doing it mostly for the fun, and while I identify with Guan, I realize that it's ultimately the fursona I have created and that taking it too seriously would be rather silly. 

My point--and I do have one--is that the whole random character thing isn't really too big of a deal.  I'd advise you to make your character some sort of shape-changing organism that reacts to its environment and mood to determine its form on a daily basis if it weren't an easy way out.  Alternatively, my ex-girlfriend liked anthromorphics, but could never fit into a consistent character herself.  It seems you're the same way.  In that case, I say instead of worrying about the option of creating a character, just enjoy the fandom and what it's about.  Difficult?  Annoying?  Reason to leave the fandom and decide that you dislike furry (A shame, but it happens)?  Of course it is, considering the pressure you can get put on you to have a solid species, but not impossible.  I know I'm getting EXTREMELY off topic here, but I'm sure more people would be a part of the fandom if it gave more leeway to the idea of a fursona as optional.  An answer of or similar to "Well, I'm into furry, but I don't really have a character" to these questions should not require further justification...well, except for the second one, because then I'll just respond with "That's...not what I asked."

Oh, a quick note: Personally--and no offense--I find it amusing when we try to analyze things that we ourselves consciously utilize to a very limited capacity.  Not that I'm knocking the act; curiosity is a rather pleasant trait, unless you're a feline maybe.  :}

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Juberu#3LrT5NRVks at 19 Jun 2006: 20:24

Well I never understood this. I personally don't get guys that make hermaphrodite characters.

My personal theory is that it makes women capable of emasculation by giving them a penis. Since they are now empowered, *and* vulnerable, that somehow makes them "sexy". A fetish not only a Freudian psychologist could love.

By converse, those who endow effeminate "bois" with vaginas are those who wish to be the one empowered in a sexual relationship. I figure.

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An Anonymous Dragon at 19 Jun 2006: 23:07

1) Assuming you mean that the character I created had assumed a natural life of his own and had developed away from how I imagined him to begin with?  I probably wouldn't feel sexual at all about it, in person I'm very shy and don't like to talk about personal things like emotions and sexual desires/relationships.  Were I to meet the character I created the first thing I would probably do is, provided he was in a good mood, ask him details about his existence.  I'd want to know everything I could about him so I could compare it to what I'd come up with and see how my imaginings of him and how the character himself stack up.

2) Again, I wouldn't be interested in any sexual aspects at all. 
Were it the person I love/my 'mate' I'd probably be very happy for them, and then bug them for days with annoying questions.

3) Waking up as my character would be fairly destructive.  I don't consider my character 'macro' because he's a full-sized dragon and is naturally large.  I consider macro to mean characters that grow unnaturally large.  However before anyone argues the point, I also don't argue if someone calls my character a macro because I'm aware most people just go "Big character - Macro!" and I'm not self-centered enough to think that my definition outranks theirs.  By all definitions BUT mine, my character is a macro character.  Which means mine is outweighed.
But the first thing I'd do is probably get really, really hungry.  Big stomach and all that.  Then I'd be worrying about human reaction because a quadrupedal winged reptile that's fifty feet from nose to tip of tail and twenty-five feet tall at the shoulders is gonna draw the WRONG kind of attention, I don't care WHERE you are on the planet.  The last thing I need is military mooks and morons shooting things at me.  :\
After that I dunno, depends on what happens then.

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at 20 Jun 2006: 05:08

1)I dont have a fursona as I see myself as human...I just want some furry action as a human.
2)Sex...lots of it...my interest in the fandom is strictly limited to sexual pleasure =P
3)I always wake up as me.

Sorry for not being very insightful..its late.

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Guan at 20 Jun 2006: 12:16

>>29 Well, there's no problem with not having a fursona, but in my opinion, if you believe what you just said in 2, you got into furry for the wrong reason.  Still, it can be argued as a valid one, so it's fine if you want to have it, although I truly think you're kidding yourself by taking hedonism as an approach unaccompanied with a backup interest.  If that's really the case...well, that's kind of sad but at the same time silly.  :}

Thanks for the responses so far.  There's a reason--well, quite a few actually--that I'm not really looking for yiff answers here, apart from the sexual stigma already surrounding the fandom.  Frankly, it's way too easy to provide such a answer, considering the majority of the fandom tends to already uphold a rather strong (and free) sexual aspect of their interest in furry to accompany other ones.  Would I desire and probably get hardcore action between my character and/or my mate's character and myself?  Hell yes I would, and quite a bit of it at that!  But what if that were impossible for some reason or another?  I wouldn't shrug off my interest completely as a result, although I would be affectionate in other ways while taking thoughtful conversation and an offer to shelter and provide for him as the first and thus my--note, MY--most important thing on the list.  Besides, these questions are less about "what would you do" and more about "How would you function?" I think.  One transformed suddenly is likely to explore themselves and other people (and vice versa) at some point, I imagine, but I highly doubt it would be a prime focus compared to what lies ahead for them in the real world. 

Yarr.  It seems I'm typing myself into a hole here, so I'll go ahead and stop while I can.  I guess my point is that while the yiff rocks, it's pretty much overemphasized, not to mention an act of choice.  I'm more interested in responses that address things which aren't choices...you know, like...what I...typed.  Or not.  God dammit.  -..- 

Eh screw it.  Perhaps it doesn't matter.  You wanna say sex, you can say sex (Or yiff, whatever you prefer).  It may be a a dull answer, but at least it's an answer.  After all, no one response is right or wrong...except when I say so, of course, for I am the ultimate authority in all things and cannot be challenged BWAAHAHA.  ;}

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straydog#3pCIhha3Cw at 20 Jun 2006: 13:38

1. Considering my fursona has roughly the same personality as I do, I can't imagine there being much interaction at first, save for a greeting of some sort. Of course, after a while of silence, either of us would probably engage in some questioning due to curiosity. If my fursona was unfamiliar with humans (if he's from a world where there are none and it's all just furries), I'm sure he'd be curious about life, ect., among humans, just as I would be curious about life as a furry. However, both of us being anti-social and stand-offish in nature, I can't imagine there being much interaction beyond a few questions. No...no long philosophical discussions happening between my furry and I.

2. Considering my mate's fursona isn't much like he is, I'd imagine there'd be a whole lot of conflict. While I like his fursona, his fursona's personality and what-not, and my personality, would definitely clash. There'd probably be a lot of bickering, and a whole lot of me being sad over having lost my mate (he'd be his fursona, which is not him, and thus I'd have lost him).

3. Hmm...this is a toughie. Given I'd be in a world where furries are non-existant, I can't imagine being welcomed with open arms by the rest of society. So, foremost, I think I'd get as far away from civilization as possible (which is what I want to do anyway). Find a nice piece of land somewhere in the middle of nowhere where I could be self sufficient and not rely on humanity. Of course if society was more welcoming I'd take advantage of my newfound form and become a spokesperson, or what have you, to earn enough money to buy a place in the middle of nowhere and then carry on my life, as I intend to live it presently (as I am now, IRL). Of course that all aside, there'd be plenty of experimentation regarding what I could and couldn't do, and especially some fooling around with my mate with the new furry 'equipment' (a knot...yay). XD

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Yuria Tayde at 21 Jun 2006: 17:08

1. Ha! Oie... I never thought I'd be answering this question. Seriously I never saw it coming! If I found a ME who's the me I wish I was? ... hm, maybe it's better if I never meet Shawn irl after all, because I'ma have to say I'd beat the tar out of my fursona in a jealous rage! .. And have a peak between her/hir legs, because I just havn't figured out which one I am... Wouldn't that be nice? Figure out a tricky point of yourself to an absolute truth just by unzipping your-(misinterpretable!!)

2. I dunno who I'd want to meet... And answering how I'd react to a generic furry in an IRL setting would be boring. I ask myself sometimes, how would we treat our pets if they could speak english and had opposable thumbs? Shawn's alwase been my art slave over AIM, maybe I'd put that in a more litteral sence.

3. Hide, tell somebody I trust to come pick me up, and be a pet =3 OR be spotted, get captured, probed, experimented on, and perhaps stuck in a zoo display if not killed or baptised. Think they'd try breeding me? (boring first furry answer XP yay) But yeah, I'd get somebody I trusted to come pick me up and be a pet. They'd probably keep me in the basement. Or hey, another angle nobody considered, what if this happened to everybody at the same time? Furries all over the place! Hmm... I dunno how to answer then, there's too much room for debate over how the world would react.

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Bizzle at 21 Jun 2006: 17:49

>>30  "if you believe what you just said in 2, you got into furry for the wrong reason."

Do you mean that there's a right reason?  I don't think any of us are quite right, man.

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Guan at 21 Jun 2006: 18:53

>>33 Okay, so maybe "the wrong reason" was a poor choice of words.  Perhaps "an inadequate reason" would be more fitting, although I don't think it has the same ring to it.  :P

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Phoenix/Terika at 22 Jun 2006: 16:51

Interesting thread!

1) I'd probably be very cautious and try not to offend "me", since I wouldn't want to be offensive to a predatory dragon, even one the same size as me :>  And try to figure out if he really -is- me, etc. Would probably start out very awkwardly at first, until it's clear where we stand, then... I'd probably be talking for the next week or so, trying to find out every detail. (And yes, I'm sure sex would come up relatively soon, once we've settled down a little).

2) Oooh... I'd be startled for a little bit, then excited, if a bit nervous (Much making sure it's still him!). But overall, I'd be thrilled, and I'm sure he would be, too. Then a little worried about what kind of problems it would cause him... And sex, of course, but that's nothing new. :>

3) Freak out for a few seconds until I establish that yes, it's me, and yes, I'm not hallucinating, cracked, or otherwise messed up. Then very, very happy! Followed by nervousness about what this means for me. I can't imagine even a human-sized dragon blending into society too well, so I'm sure my life would change dramaticly. Overall, though, quite happy.

Of course, 1 and 3 assume that the persona in question is the one I picture as myself (Phoenix). The only other character I have that would come close to being a "personal" persona is Terika, my nasty herm demon character (And since it was brought up earlier, sie's a very masculine herm, and could possibly be mistaken for male). In that case:

1) Die. Terika would not be happy with either the implication that sie and I are somehow "equal", or even related, nor the possibility that I "created" hir (Or think I did). I just hope it's quick.

3) Initial reaction the same as before; startled, before becoming VERY happy. Then pay a visit to several friends who would be quite happy to see Terika (I've got odd friends ;>  ). Then take over the world, or something else appropriately demonic. *shrugs* :>

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Narkiel at 24 Jun 2006: 18:33

1. There'd probably be alot of talking and some jokes, but there might actually be some jealously...after all, my fursona is all-round better than me, and fuzzy to boot!  I'd probably feel the responsibility to take care of him, so that might harm any potential relationship, unfortunately. I hope that I would be kind enough to just love him like anyone else, but I can't honestly say I know what I would do.
2. My fursona is currently single. (And available ladies! ;)
3. I would be all "w00t!'  I would probably see if I could discreetly get to a con somewhere.  If nessecary, I'd hire the best damn lawyer I could find to protect my freedoms. (I dont want to be prodded without my permission!) If EVERYONE went furry, I'd probably run around huggling random people, starting with my friend Jon, who is the only furry I know IRL.

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Riasiru#SNAVCSFeyc at 24 Jun 2006: 19:31

I actualy found smoe pretty cool stuff out from a past life deal. But, I'll keep what to myself.

If I met Ria, I'd end up talking about stuff that would spark a better understanding of the world, universe, and multiverse. Yet, at the same time, I would be dumb founded becuase the more I understand, the more I realize I don't understand anything...

Makes about as much sense as a striaght in a gay bar huh?

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at 25 Jun 2006: 20:25

If I met my furry self, I'd be disgusted and in love at the same time. Then either me, or him, would propably annoy the hell out of the other.

I don't have a furry mate. If I met some of the people, as furries, who I've been with in the past, they'd propably gouge my eyes out. I have no particular interest in meeting any of them, and they propably don't have any towards meeting me.

If I woke up as my imagined furry self, I would bask in the fame of being a natural freak. I'd get as much publicity as I can, so people just couldn't put me away into some lab. I'd take the bad with the good and.

I have the added advantage of being a border collie morph, so people would propably find me not offensive or threatening, rather cute or tolerable.

If I found myself as the morph I have envisioned, I would have great difficulties in communicating, since I don't think a dog's jaw could produce much human speech. I'd have to write everything, or use sign language.

I wouldn't want to wake up as a dog though. I'd lose my color vision.

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at 25 May 2008: 09:41

New World Awaiting...although it seems every character in those stories was physically impaired or pathetic in some way or another (myopia, handicapped, etc).

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at 25 May 2008: 10:15

N-N-N-NECROPOST!
In b4 ban.

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