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...when you say you have the soul of an animal or something like that? I myself am not furry. I just view these pictures as any other porn, essentially a neutral view. But when I hear people say things about the 'horrors' of humankind and they claim that they're actually an animal in a human body, that sets me off.

I just want to know if some of you guys actually believe that, or if you just say it for that very purpose. To set people off. I'm willing to have a mature discussion about this and will not flame.

I agree with 'one of many.' Really, how are we so different from any other animal? We're all of the same origin, no matter what you believe in. The only real difference is that we're at the top of the food chain. And for anyone who thinks that it's 'cruel' or unusual to eat/keep/destroy an animal's habitat, just remember that an animal in the wild would have no trouble eating you, destroying your home, or anything else it's capable of.
For someone to say humankind if horrible, is not thinking clearly. For one, what is humankind? Because last time I checked, every person was different. There is good, and there is bad, just like any animal. Yes, animals do have emotions, and empathy, just like humans. And some humans will go out of their way to save an animal. In the end, I think some people get too lost in this role-playing...in the end, they are nothing more than another human, and even they were raised in human conditions, therefore they think like a human would. Do you really think an animal thinks of the 'horrors' or humanity? I think it's thinking mainly about it's survival, and it's next meal, without consequence of what or who it affects. Isn't that the same as any one of us? All are animal.
J.R.P.

I learned a long time ago not to discuss my personal beliefs with others.  Sadly, they challenge peoples beliefs and they become hostile.  I do not desire this end.  I just express my views, my beliefs, and they don't like them.

That being said, I will answer your question.  I do not possess the soul of an animal, and I possess the soul of an animal.  Human beings are animals, and so to say that I have the soul of an animal is the same as saying I have the soul of a human.  Neither is completely accurate, and neither is a falsehood.  Even if we are human, we are still animals.  That being said, I believe myself to possess more in common with my draconic persona than with the humans around me.  Moreover, I feel less and less in common with the rest of humanity as humanity drifts more and more towards the brink of destruction, chaos, and Armageddon.  When I listen to the news, stop to think about the way things are going, or even just happen to glance as the paper, I realize that even if I were human, what a wretched existence have I been born into that should there be a God, how can anyone from this time even think they could bare to look upon the disappointment on his face.  We have truly screwed this world up.  As its appointed guardians, stewards of the Earth, we have failed.  Our leaders have failed.  And none of us deserve salvation.  But he will give it to us, if we ask.  So what does that say about God?  Human Soul?  Animal Soul?  Human, wolf or dragon.  I know that whatever I believe, God loves me as I am.  All I have to do is love him.

Peace be with you.

Actually, the idea is Called 'Otherkin'.  Its basically an advanced form of reincarnation that doesn't deal with humans.


Here are the Basics:

We have the Awakening:

An Awakening is were, say you, has some kind of experience (More often then not in dream, but can also be vision (memories) or just pure realization) that makes the realize that their soul isn't normal (no such thing, but never mind).  After some research upon ones innerself, you would figure out that you have a strong connection with a certain animal.  Even further you could/will realize that you are a reincarnation of that animal and from a certain life.

Thats the barebones of an Awakening.  When you experience one, you 'Awaken'.  And when you Awaken, all kinds of things could happen.  You could get a flood of memories with it, you could suddenly have this name stuck into your head, and so on.  And After you awaken, you could (and this is often so, but not always) start to have memories from that life come to you.

But Awakenings are not just limited to animals found on our planet.  People have been known to be Dragon Kin There is evidence that Dragons did exist), Angelic Kin, Dinosaur Kin, and so on. 

I hope that clears that up.

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>>7 "(no such thing, but never mind)"

That's YOUR personal belief, not necessarily fact.  I pride myself on being agnostic/atheistic, and I still hold the belief that there is more to a living creature than flesh and bone.  Perhaps it's because I hate waste, and the thought of all the knowledge and experience accumulated by one "soul" being permanently and irretrievably discarded upon death seems terribly wasteful.  The continuity of "reincarnation" and a "soul" appeals to me mainly for the purposes of preservation of knowledge and experience.

(I hit Add Reply prematurely on previous post >.< )

The ones who seriously believe they are an animal/have the spirit/whatever are normally also the batshit insane ones.

Like that retard on FA who actually seriously seems to think he's a BLUE St.Bernard. And he rants on about how evil humans are. ON the internet. A human thing. You know. The inbred fuckwits who couldn't even talk to a real person.

Either that, or they are a breed of mutant uber-trolls doing it for the lulz.

Most of the ones who were "Otherkin" back when I got on the Internet have realised by now that it's nonsense - that they were young and/or idealistic and/or deluded.

We all do stupid things when we're young. I was into magic and astrology and all that when I was a teen - but I certainly don't believe that nonsense anymore.

http//www.nytimes.com/...
interesting read, its not complete and it references other works regarding brain research without giving sources, but it seems to be spot on analytically.
I am one of those weird cases I fairly clearly remember a lot of things I shouldn't and i clearly remember one stretch with paws claws and tail.

>>18
Isn't White Wolf the company behind Vampire: the Masquerade? They have something called Vampire: the Requiem in the index bar, which I've never heard of.

I think furry “spirituality” is just an excuse by those who don’t want to take responsibility for their failings in life. They feel that they don’t fit in, or that they are somehow unsuccessful, but instead of acknowledging that they have control over their lives, they find a way to blame it on something they don’t control. So, some furries convince themselves that the reason they don’t fit into human society must be because of they have an animal soul instead of a human soul.

hmm..this is a very interesting thread...all have their views, and urs is urs, but its good to have others share their ideas..whether u agree or not..its knowledge...im sure some ppl base their "animal past" on either a favorite animal or a special skill they have that they can do better then anything else, its all mind over matter to me, what u believe is what u get, whether it be present life, past life, or after life(if u believe in it)
you see, people go to "heaven" and "hell" because the secretly went through life believing hat they would, thus they created their "heaven" or "hell"
people see "ghost" because those people went through their life believing they would be trapped to an area after life and not move on.
so for people believing that they were an animal in a past life..migh have been, or they just want attention..its all what u want to believe, if u believe through ur life that u will be an animal in ur next life, then by all means..go ahead and be one, ur choice

>>23
I don't want to be an animal in my next life, if there is one.  I'm rather fond of opposable thumbs, and advanced technology and medicine, and that whole sapience thing, y'know?

i think i would like to be an animal tho b/c of true freedom..
we humans say we are "free" but we really are not...there are so many things we arnt allowed to do, which disturbs our "freedom"
animals do not have to worry about freedom, they worry about survival, their whoile life is truly free, they can go whgere they want and basically do what they want..others may try to stop them b/c that is their freedom to do, but both are still free.
jusat watching animals around my house, they walk around, sit ther, and just do as they please, they dont have to worry about a job, or buying anything, they find everything, they actually work for the goods, not for a source to try to get the goods.
well..thats just my view..i wouldnt mind being an animal in a next life, besides, animal lives dont last long, usually, so you could always do something else in the life after that, if thats what u believe

>>28
I agree. When you look at certain societies, you often see elders being held in high regard and honored. When you're a wolf or a lion, the elderly get driven out by younger competitors: the venerable old male lion gets killed or forced out of the pride by a young lion, and the same with the alpha male. Even females who are no longer capable of having cubs or pups get the boot. Rarely do you ever see "free" animals live to old age, and I gotta say I enjoy the longer life of humans in comparison to most other animals...

>>26  ...Irrigation.  Medicine.  Education.  And the wine!  Obviously, the roads go without saying.

I wouldn't want to be any other species, even discounting the whole higher reasoning thing.  Like the last dude said, we don't have a mating season.  We have all kinds of fun, and sometimes disturbing, fetishes and sexual acts to choose from.  Just climbing on and pumping until your done would no doubt get boring.  We're relatively tall, we see the white light spectrum,    we're singularly dextrous, we can thrive in widely varrying climates, we're gifted predators yet we're also capable of surviving on vegetable matter alone, our bodies have all the flexability of our simian cousins, we're naturally social creatures, and our lifespan can be tremendous by animal standards.  Besides, Charlize Theron is human, and that's reason enough to be one.

All in all, it's acutally a fairly decent time to be human.  Sure, it's not the Clinton era anymore, but we're still awesomely advanced, technologicly and socially speaking as compared to any other time in our species' history.  Sure we have a ways to go before we all can live in some happy-sappy utopia (I'd settle for a yellow submarine).  But hey, we're as far along as any other person or species has been.  So cheer up emo kids!

Dolphins and many other critters have to undergo the slow and boring process of natural evolution.  Humans can say "Fuck this" and artificially accelerate the improvement of the human form through science.  A hundred years from now, humans will be able to run faster, jump higher, see better, and hear more clearly (and hopefully we will be able to modify our appearances in certain ways :3 ).  It would take possibly millennia for the animal kingdom to see that level of advancement.

I believe I have the soul of a dragon. I have for a good deal of my life, before I even knew what a furry was. But eventually I came to realize that I was in a human shell now and Id just have to live with that. Maybe next life, I'll be a little luckier and at least have wings. But for now, I'll just have to cope.

>>35

7/10

Well let's see...I'm curious, playful, sleep a lot (in short periods of time too), clean, solitary, and affectionate.

All the key traits of a housecat.

So I guess I COULD say it, but I doubt I'd really go as far as to claim it seriously.