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at 27 Jun 2007: 21:04

I hear from a lot of furries that they would love for science to make it feasible for people to be genetically transformed into real life anthropomorphic animals.  From what I understand, most of the furries who want this want it for aesthetic reasons, not so much for the ability to actually be an humanoid-animal creature.  So take a look at this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMJwURqpFWs

It talks about a rather interesting technology called Augmented Reality which blends virtual reality with the real world, and has great potential for becoming a common thing in the near future.  Just go to youtube and search for Augmented Reality.  Imagine what you could do with that stuff.

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stevefarfan at 27 Jun 2007: 22:19

HOLY FUCK

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at 27 Jun 2007: 22:50

awesome...

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M'aiq the Liar at 27 Jun 2007: 22:59

Crazy.

But I'd still like the improved night vision, keener sense of smell and more sensitive hearing genetic manipulation promises.

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at 27 Jun 2007: 23:09

Oh god.


I can imagine two idiots fucking each other while wearring huge VR helmets which costed way mroe than a fursuit would. Not to mention the time/money it would take to get a realistic full body model.


oh god i lol'd

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at 27 Jun 2007: 23:09

They've been talking about this for years (I believe the first I read of it was in the mid nineties) - I find it funny it only becomes noticeable once it makes it onto you tube.

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M'aiq the Liar at 27 Jun 2007: 23:15

>>6
YouTube's got a knack for that.  I didn't know about Coke + Mentos until I stumbled across a Coke + Mentos vid on YouTube.  You could post a vid of yourself whittling on your front porch and you'd be guaranteed a few hundred hits, FFS... you want to get noticed, YouTube's probably one of the better ways.

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at 27 Jun 2007: 23:28

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Two idiots could fuck each other right now, with big VR helmets on, if they had the money to make it happen.  I think you misunderstand the levels of technology that people will be using in a relatively short time from now.  'Subtle' and 'seamless' won't even begin to describe it - Quite literally, if you want to live your life without ever seeing a woman (or a black guy, or even any one over X number of pounds) you'll potentially be able to edit your perceptions to make it so. 

From a metaphysical stand point, there's been little to contradict the idea that personal perception is the limit to a person's reality - If all your senses tell you something does or doesn't exist, then for you, it will be as if it were so.  And short of being some sort of divinity with omnipotent control over every aspect of everyone's reality, having complete control of your own is the next best thing. 

Then again, I think the possibilities are lost on most people, much like the possibilities of nanotech are still vastly underestimated - When the limits of a culture's take on a new technology is how it impacts the worlds current (and outdated) paradigm (mostly economics/manufacturing) it's a sad day for human potential. 

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nlat at 28 Jun 2007: 02:59

Awesome.  The only thing I have to wonder is how much such a thing would cost, but then again, I didn't have the sound on when I watched the movie, so maybe it was mentioned in there.  Of course, there's nothing quite like actually being able to *feel* the fur on your body, but that's easily remedied.

The possibilities though... :3

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Bizzle at 28 Jun 2007: 08:28

I want a little monkey guy on a plastic square!

...Doesn't this look a little like the virtual world in Shadowrun?

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stevefarfan at 29 Jun 2007: 10:39

The possibilities are on another freaking level. Of course they need to make the technology much smaller, so it could be like glasses connected to an pda size device in your pocket.

Then you can summon a keyboard, and type on it.  You can bring the internet with you.  Have a nice conversation with somebody next to you, and send messages to people in Japan.  Or summon a porn comic, and read it in plain view... since nobody can see it.

Of course, there would be downloadable video games that are interactible or even seek to look like a handheld console.

Then you know, silly special effects like raining cats and dogs, or flocks of birds flying.  Then doing magic tricks like making clones, shooting fireballs, and other things.

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at 29 Jun 2007: 10:55

This sounds like it would be alot more useful for improving society than it would be for having sex. Just because you can use this for that purpose doesn't mean you should.

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M'aiq the Liar at 29 Jun 2007: 11:13

>>11 "Or summon a porn comic, and read it in plain view... since nobody can see it."

Just make sure you remain seated - pitching a tent in public is generally considered to be bad form.

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Foxon at 29 Jun 2007: 22:46

>>13
Best idea yet!
This is the coolest thing, she said 2008...thats not that far away and thats a creepy thought! Future isnt that far...

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Gesundheit at 30 Jun 2007: 01:37

We've been living with augmented reality since we invented the signpost and the map, but *personally* augmented reality is a bit new.  A story in Analog SF&F addressed this particular implementation around 1992 or '93 -- I think it was Arlan Andrews' "Interfaces," but I'm going from a title index with no context here.

Basically, while fun, being a game/fantasy 'addict' in 'AR' is not going to pan out any better than it does with our current 'VR' implementations, the differences being that, with the availability of extreme fantasy 'AR,' you'd be interacting with people experiencing an entirely different subjective reality, possibly including actual reality.  Imagine, you can let your whole house rot, pour yourself a bowl of roach-infested cereal, and your rose-colored glasses will happily paint out all of it except the crunch (and perhaps the smell, though technology is advancing on that).  Imagine what will happen when people strap on their Virtual Boy 2.0s and *drive.*

So... Choose-Your-Own-Hallucination *would* be damn cool, but when you're getting to the point of painting over reality rather than 'augmenting' it [with information that would actually *enhances* your ability to navigate through it], you'd really want to limit that to the equivalent of bars, laser-tag arenas and The Privacy of Your Own Home -- for some heavily obvious reasons.

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Hammer at 30 Jun 2007: 23:58

This is disturbing...

You people (who are entitled to your own opinions and I have no room to judge) do realize what you are saying when you type "awesome.." or "Best idea yet!" right? Can you imagine the entire human population going through out their lives with these virtual goggles and seeing the world as their own little world? I can not even describe how horrific that would be... the entire 'real' world would decay because everyone's 'own' world is so much better.

If one would take his/her self out of their world you would see a world with out any beauty or care, never cleaned or payed any attention to. And worst of all would be the people. Walking around, dirty, naked, just grotesque... nobody would care what they're 'real' self looked like as long as 'their' self looked good. And the 'real' world would be so repulsive nobody would bother to turn off 'their' world to fix it.

I may be taking this out of context but it seems to me like this would turn every one into addicts who don't give a $*** about anything and drift off into their little fantasy lives and shut out every thing else.

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at 1 Jul 2007: 00:51

>>16
"Can you imagine the entire human population going through out their lives with these virtual goggles and seeing the world as their own little world?"

Worse yet: "The Goggles... They do nothing!"

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stevefarfan at 1 Jul 2007: 12:27

I sort of just see it as a really portable computer.  These worst case scenarios being imagined are very real, but I don't really see the difference between the few amount of people who do it now, to the same few of people who will merely do the same thing in a different way.

It won't affect intelligent people in negative ways, other than by accident.  Which a firmware update would fix anyways.  I think the REAL thing we have to worry about is worms, viruses, spy ware, and pop-ups.

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at 1 Jul 2007: 22:01

>>16

Sounds like a good plot for a sci-fi movie.

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at 2 Jul 2007: 14:12

With this stuff, I don't need to buy yet another $600 monitor. All I need is a piece of cardboard with those symbols printed on - and it's in 3D.

Suck that, crappy no-good LCD monitors.

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Bizzle at 2 Jul 2007: 19:55

Now that I think about it, what's really scary about this is that cellphone driver assholes will have something seriously distracting to play with while they drive.  Hopefully, they will build a safeguard into them that deactivates the device when the user takes it into a vehicle.

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M'aiq the Liar at 2 Jul 2007: 20:03

>>21
Amen.  Fucking cellphone drivers >.<

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