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at 21 Jul 2007: 06:58

Is anyone else tired of all the obviously low quality pictures that get posted? I mean...because of those pictures I probably have to spend upwards of an extra 5-10 minutes just to find the good stuff. Now, high quality can be argued and I understand this but just because a picture displays content that someone likes and isn't available elsewhere in a higher quality....that doesn't suddenly make a shitty picture a good one.

I noticed this problem a lot on all imageboards across the net, people will post and save crappy quality pictures just because it's "rare". I don't think we've had this discussion before so what are your thoughts on it and how do you think the problem can be solved?(if you want it solved)

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Bizzle at 21 Jul 2007: 07:55

Personally, I would prefer to have the ability to choose what I think is quality as opposed to having someone else decide it for me.  Less polished pictures are like the tracks on an album that aren't sold as singles.  Some people find some of them to be really good.

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at 21 Jul 2007: 08:03

>>2
At Fchan...that's reasonable. If you mass download from 4chan on the other hand...going through all the duplicates, the low quality junk, etc etc can take upwards of 100+ hours every month.

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at 21 Jul 2007: 09:38

I've found that some poorly-drawn pics can have awesome story lines. ...Conversely, some artsy stuff is plain boring and predictable.

I can fap to a good storyline too :3

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at 21 Jul 2007: 10:29

Uhm... I dunno if I'm all alone with this view but imho 90% of all furry content is more or less crap. The best artists in furdom are maybe mediocre artists at best when compared to the real fantasy artists. It's sad really. Dark natasha is the only exception really.

But how to fix this.... I think time will take care of it. I mean if you look back like 5 years, the quality has improved dramatically since then. There's more and more talented artists joining the fandom every day. Only thing to worry about is the general lack of interest to non-porn. I don't think people who are serious about art and fantasy art are interested in doing free porn for people, and if their general images don't get attention they most likely start doing something else.

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at 21 Jul 2007: 14:07

>>1
You are correct! And I think it does get tiresome, but if there's a solution it's beyond me. Probably a first step to making improvements is doing what you're doing, though, which is saying something bothers you and asking for ideas. That at least gives people the chance to share input on things and might spark someone more innovative than myself to have a great idea.

>>4
I couldn't agree with THIS more. I yawn at the endless parade of slickly-produced pin-ups showing the same soulless crap time and again, and a lot of my all-time favorites are pencil sketches that had a marvelous concept.

>>5
You are not alone, but I wouldn't single out furry! I don't say that in defense of furry, but because I *wish* the crap percentage on content in general would be as low as 90%. If 10% of 'net content was good I'd be in heaven.

Sorry for the spam-ness but it's an interesting post OP made and the responses were nice to read. I'd say keep poster 4's point in mind though, because getting rid of the pictures that excel on their concept just because their quality isn't slick would be a shame. But getting rid of the dross would be wondrous.

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at 21 Jul 2007: 14:29

I'll agree with the OP here.  One of my biggest pains in surfing for stuff is when I find a thread dedicated to... a certain topic I like *cough, kink, cough*, there tends to be very, very little worth looking at; really, no matter what the topic is, there's never much worth the two seconds I'll have to spend to look and dismiss the crap.  The only thing that saves it usually is an artist who's style I like who spreads himself out over different areas of work.

What can you do about it?  Ignore the crap and keep looking; we can't round these people up and cut off their hands you know.  :)  Life in this overflooded age of information is more about sifitng for what we want, rather than being able to find it all in one place.

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at 21 Jul 2007: 14:36

>>7
Also from a masochistic standpoint, sifting through all the bad stuff makes finding the good stuff extra-special! It's like being Indiana Jones crawling through miles of spider-and-snake infested tombs and finding the golden statue that gives you an instant kink-aneurysm when you see it's glowing light.

But then of course, after you grab it, the giant boulder of crappy content tries to crush you, and you have to run back in a panic, and Belloq is waiting outside to take your precious porn, and then sics his hordes of screaming minions on you and you barely make it to the plane and take off, but then just as you're about to fap to the mere memory of the glorious porn there's a snake in the cockpit!!! ... But it's your snake, so it's all good.

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at 21 Jul 2007: 20:09

>>1
Personally, I think you're being far too fussy.  Please tell me you *have* taken the time to consider that your views aren't necessarily representative of everyone else's.  Sure, there's generally a pretty clear dividing line between high-quality and low, but there's plenty of room to work in individual tastes as well.

Aside from that an imageboard is far from a good place to expect to see high-quality images.  Most stuff like that is pay material.  The stuff you see here is (mostly) free, right?

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at 21 Jul 2007: 23:08

>>8
I love this post.

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at 21 Jul 2007: 23:51

>>10
Seconded.

>>8
Metaphor of the century.

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at 22 Jul 2007: 10:32

>>1
Complaining about this is rather like having a pound of gold wrapped in ten pounds of mud fall from the sky onto your front lawn, and then bitching about how it damaged the grass, then  whining that now you have to spend all that time cleaning the mud off and it's soooo heavy. Why couldn't it have been cash instead and  just  deposited itself in the bank?

Not to be too snide about this, but you get what you pay for. If that 5-10 minutes is too dear, then better to spend your precious time elsewhere.

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at 22 Jul 2007: 10:47

>>12
I feel sometimes though as if I'm having to dig through ten pounds of mud for about fifty cents worth of gold.  Maybe I am too picky, who knows.

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at 22 Jul 2007: 11:41

>>12
It's more like digging through two tons of mud to find a single nugget of gold worth less than a dollar. Yeah, it's free...so what? It doesn't change the fact that there is other free sources of art that offer a much more fulfilling experience simply because crap art isn't glorified simply for containing some rare kink.

4chan is probably the most popular imageboard and this problem is magnified there. It's like having to scour the entire earth for a single treasure. My point is...i'd like to see SOMETHING, maybe a feature of some kind added to imageboards that makes it possible to skip over crappy art. I'd say user voting system but that would most likely be abused.

The best idea I can really think of is some kind of tag system where people who post pics can rate the art then users can rate the art. As a result the good art will get 5/5 straight across the board and you can click some button on the page to "hide" all the art not of 5/5 quality. Of course if the board gets raided and a-holes vote down good pictures then it could be a problem but in ideal situations it would save people SOME time.

As for possibly missing out on good art...well if you don't know about it who cares? I know i'm missing out on millions of pictures of good art I haven't yet stumbled across, so long as I don't know about it it doesn't bother me.

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Raven//Puck at 22 Jul 2007: 18:21

>>14

We've considered some form of user voting, and it seems that it will not be happening. I do not like the idea. I think that, as you so astutely put it, it would be abused and cause a large amount of drama.

If you want to visit a chan site, you just have to be prepared for this sort of thing. It is, however, part of the reason why /artist is treated the way it is. But that's where I'm going to draw the line.

Unless the art is obviously put on the site to cause drama, breaks some rule, or causes some kind of problem, I don't see the point of removing it. After all, "crappy art" is very subjective, and since the amount of complaints are actually very few, I don't see a justifiable reason to keep things you personally dislike from being posted.

The one thing I will consider is expanding the collapsible thread feature to include each post, so if there is something each individual user finds to be unappealing or offensive within a thread, they can just make it disappear. But no voting. Bad idea.

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at 23 Jul 2007: 02:17

>>15
Oh god.

The drama caused by that idea would be immense. I'm glad you didn't go through with it.

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at 23 Jul 2007: 03:35

Hey if you don't like someone's art,then draw it yourself. And if you can't draw it yourself,then shut tha hell up,they're obviously doing better then you.. crybaby

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at 23 Jul 2007: 07:11

>>17
If someone doesn't like something, they have the right to say so, regardless of their ability in the field.

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Raven//Puck at 23 Jul 2007: 08:25

>>17

Now you're just being ignorant and bordering on violation of Rule 0. Please refrain from that. It's bad for your health.

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Anon at 23 Jul 2007: 18:54

>>18

I bet >>17 flames movies and videogames, too, even though he's not a movie- or game-maker.

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