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at 10 Oct 2007: 10:32

>>21
I agree with you there. I mean if they don't want to say anything then fine. But personally I couldn't give a crap on here.  Even if I gave out my most personal info here no one knows who it's connected to. We could walk down the same street tommorow and you would never know.

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Shaitan at 10 Oct 2007: 11:07

>>21 >>23 Ah, the illusion of anonymity...

Just because you omit your name on a forum doesn't mean that it's not connected to you. Between wherever you live and the Fchan site, your data (including what you type, what websites you go to, and your IP address) are being potentially cached and/or logged by every machine along the "tube."

The Internet is much less anonymous than telling a complete stranger face to face in a bar, and if you don't believe me, you're fooling yourself. Check out news websites about cyber-monitoring sometime.

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Hellfire at 10 Oct 2007: 12:13

>>24 Okay, here's your complimentary tinfoil hat and matching Faraday-cage wallet.

Lets set some things straight here:
While not taking any precautions it's possible to be tracked back on the internet, it would take quite a bit.  You could give out personal information on a site where you shouldn't, or your personal information could be leaked from a supposedly secure system (online banking, retailer, etc.).  You could have no business being anywhere near a computer and simply hand that information out to whoever asks.  You could be using a system that requires personal information be made public (buying a domain name for example, without using the registrar's registrant privacy services).

Short of that,  if you don't give out personally-identifying data, the most someone is going to easily obtain is an IP address.  There is simply no way (unless you happen to be the owner of that IP range, see the domain name  notes above) to connect an IP to a name legally without going through the court or asking the ISP.  Simply asking the ISP is not likely to work even if you are a member of a law-enforcement agency.

There are ways (that range from legal to completely illegal) to find out who someone really is, if they have supplied personally-identifying data somewhere as most of us have.  They could have put their information on a forum somewhere, or posted their name somewhere with their email address to a webpage somewhere (google will find it!).

So, in a way, you're also right - if the data is out there, it can be found.  However, if someone wants to be completely anonymous:

Tor (http://tor.eff.org) in addition to privoxy (which is shipped with tor) will hide your ip and mostly protect from badly configured software.
Services such as hushmail (http://www.hushmail.com) will give you completely anonymous email.
Tools like these plus some good common sense (a rarity these days, I know) can and will keep you completely anonymous online.

While you're out looking out all the breaches of privacy online, look up some information on the subject, will ya? ;)

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at 10 Oct 2007: 13:22

>>24

That's not news to me, pal. Like >>25 said, an IP will give your general location, but only your general location if you've not provided info elsewhere to link IP and name. And ONLY if someone goes through the trouble of intercepting your data transfers. And mods, but whoever doesn't trust them probably shouldn't be posting here.

I don't know about you, but I've NEVER put my personal contact info on the 'net; in fact, I've been overly paranoid about it. So I CAN remain anonymous. I HAVE. And so can you if you're careful. Your bar analogy doesn't work, sorry :\.

But hey, what I can say, no one's going to force you to reply to the thread if you don't want to. But please, don't discourage people who would otherwise gladly contribute with groundless fears.

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Miles_T3h_R4t #yYFPQMH/Lw at 10 Oct 2007: 15:12

>>26
Actualy, If an individual is skilled enough to hack a website, to get what IP the post is from, there skilled enough to track it to an ISP,
hack the ISP, find out who that specific IP is registered from, and get credit card info, SS, and home address and phone number, with full name, and what there income is.

the thing is noone actualy does that, because what's the point of doing all that, just to go "hah hah your not annon!"

also, most importantly here, 24, 25 and 26 WAY off topic,
not to mention why would you both post all that info AND sage.

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Miles_T3h_R4t #yYFPQMH/Lw at 10 Oct 2007: 15:14

okay, not 24 that is kind of on topic, but 25 what where you thinking, we're here to talk about furry related stuff, not have a nerdy version of a macho pissing contest.

and again, was ANYONE on fchan at anthrocon "07

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at 10 Oct 2007: 15:44

Drama strikes again!

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at 10 Oct 2007: 16:00

>>29
this isn't drama, its people talking to much about computers, instead of furrys. its off-topic. thats it.

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at 10 Oct 2007: 16:07

>>30

Well, I now argue that it is Drama; therefore, it has inevitably become Drama in the process of debating whether it is Drama or not.

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Hellfire at 10 Oct 2007: 17:25

Get this thread back on topic before I have to ban myself for going off topic  >:(

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Steel Froggy, aka Wild Fox at 10 Oct 2007: 17:34

Ok, this got wwaaayyyyy off topic.

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FurryFox at 11 Oct 2007: 19:21

yea were deff. off topic..lets go back
>>16
yes..i would die to have a furry tail..like a fox tail..Mmmmm :p
o..ahm.yea..so lets try to get this thread back on topic
haha

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Nick at 12 Oct 2007: 00:25

>>34

Tails are one thing humans got the shaft on I think.  A prehensile tail would be pretty handy, but even a less practical tail like a fox's would be neat.

On the other hand a human tail would probably be kinda gross.  In reality it would likely be similar to a monkey's tail, but with less hair.  If I had a tail I think I would want it to be at least a little furry.

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Miles_T3h_R4t #yYFPQMH/Lw at 12 Oct 2007: 13:08

>>35
funny.
I would have pictures one of those 'demon tails'
you know, long, skinney prehensile, hairless, and comes to a arrowhead point or something. picture the uses for sex, or holding things, or being very expressive.

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Steel Froggy at 12 Oct 2007: 23:25

>>35
Yeah, it'd have to be furry for SURE.

Practical use... I could care less. haha

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at 12 Oct 2007: 23:37

Genetic engineering, stem cells, injections and such... People grow tails... And sell tail sleeves that look really cool. Fashiony. Everyone would get 'em!

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Miles_T3h_R4t #yYFPQMH/Lw at 13 Oct 2007: 13:31

great...
so Furrys in real life become a large buyer market, and are targeted left and right, the only people who would be free of advertising are non-furrys. wow that sucks.

you just had to invent tail-sleeves didn't you >>38

and you just know there's gonna be some dumbass at a con with a realy big sock full of cotton calling it a tail sleeve so he can have a really cheep tail and noone gets to see that its not really a tail.

40ReportI'm 17, and only have ever had thoughts about furry sex.
I love this site, the images, and the discussion boards, but I dont think I would be one to have sex in a furry suit. But then again, I do have quite a few years ahead of me ;)
I'm interested in anthrocon lol.

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at 14 Oct 2007: 16:47

>>40
Underage b&?

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at 14 Oct 2007: 19:28

>>41
pwnt XD

FChan index page:Do not enter if you are under 18 or it is illegal for you to view such material.

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at 16 Oct 2007: 23:35

Okay, this recent discussion made me remember something I heard about on the news. The British government has just given aproval for research to be done in combining human DNA with animal DNA. It is indeed true. The reason was never mentioned, but I'm guessing it's for biochemical and immunological research. Is anyone besides me thinking Sci-Fi story?

Getting back on the original topic:

I'm a closet Furry. I only really feel safe talking about my preference in art to my closest friends and other furries. I do not own a fursuit but I see nothing wrong with it. As for the fursuit as a fetish, I've seen weirder stuff, including a girl who likes to be literally seasoned with food spices before sex. I do indeed find furries attractive, right alongside humans. I have not yet gone to any Furry convention, but am going to try to get to Midwest FurFest this year. I feel a certain connection with REAL animals, but not sexually; I am a Native American Shamanist.

As for Lifestyle or hobby, I'd go with Hobby. I think the only way Furry could become a lifestyle would be if furries really existed. Then it would be another sexual orientation, like homosexual, heterosexual, or bisexual; but compounded so you'd have to say Hetero, Homo, or Bi, then follow up with your species preference of Human, Furry, or Anthro (for both). But again, they'd have to exist to make it a lifestyle in the first place.

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at 17 Oct 2007: 01:17

I'm not anticipating biological furries anytime soon. But once we figure out how to put a human consciousness onto electronic substrate, it won't be that hard to just build one exactly to your liking and then plug yourself into it. It really doesn't seem all that far off, considering where computers were 50 years ago, and where they are now, it's not that extreme a prediction that, 50 years from now, we'll be able to do that kind of thing. And once we get a way to copy human consciousness to chips, you'll be immune to biological aging, and essentially immortal, so if designer bodies are impractical in the near future, you're almost guaranteed to be around when they do appear.

That's what I'm looking forward to.

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Mr Swede at 17 Oct 2007: 11:06

>>44
The problem is that even if they put your brainwave patterns or whatever on a chip, it won't be you, just a copy of you.

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at 17 Oct 2007: 13:34

>>45
Yeah, they need to figure out how to do a cut-paste instead of copy paste. LOL



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at 17 Oct 2007: 18:48

>>45

You won't know the difference. And if you were 70 years old and about to die anyways, I don't think you'd really care that much. It's still you on the chip. It's a separate instance of you, but it is, nonetheless, you.

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at 17 Oct 2007: 22:42

Furry porn is only erotic if deep fisting is involved, and I can clearly see her uterus and ovaries from a mile away.

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at 18 Oct 2007: 04:18

>>47
No, the individual would know the difference between them and that other individual that's now living it up in RAM. It's the observer that couldn't tell the difference.

Whether the person is Live Or Memorex might not be important to the observer, but you can be it would be of paramount consideration to those more initmately involved in deciding whether it's Me or Them.

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at 18 Oct 2007: 06:17

>>49
Then kill bio-yourself. Then there's no "them", just a "me", and you still get to stick yourself in whatever kind of body you want.

There's also the possibility of a more progressive type of conversion. For instance, nanomachines or chips that interface directly with the brain and supplant most of it's functions, until ultimately, your whole brain has been slowly replaced by silicon that does the exact same thing. Problem solved.

2. Build a body just like you want to to be
3. ????
4. Profit

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at 18 Oct 2007: 08:52

>>50
It's not very ethical to kill yourself. Think about how the other you feels like about the idea that he's about to get snuffed and the electro-you gets to live on.

From the biological person's perspective, he doesn't get to live on forever, so the whole conversion is rather pointless to him.

And then there's the whole problem of whether or not you can really be you without your body and all the spesific types of sensory data and other input it gives you. There are no hormones in a silicon chip. You'd probably become something completely different from a human mind.

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at 18 Oct 2007: 09:16

And remember, the "you" is the biological person. When you make a copy of yourself, you gain nothing because it will be the other person that gets all the advantages and not you.

You would still remain in the bag of flesh, jealous of the new digital you that gets to experience it all. Maybe he'll come back to tell you about it, if you're lucky.

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Sono_hito at 18 Oct 2007: 13:13

As Sig Freud said, "the only bizar sex is not having any".

Im not terribly deep in "furry-dom", but consider myself a furry. I consider it completely a hobby. Using "the lingo" is just kinda stupid to me. Like previous posters have said, using internet lingo just makes you look like a jackass in RL. Ive fap'ed to f-porn enough to consider it a 70% part of my porn. The last 30% an even breakup of anime and RL porn.

While ive looked at suits and sometimes thought "damn that things silly" and other times "wow, that would be cool to have". Ive eventualy ended up with the opinion that while it might be interesting to have a high quality suit, i wouldnt wear one unless it looked exactly as i wanted it to with fit and everything. Sorry people, but the really baggy ones just look comical/mascoty to me.

While i could understand the whole "sex in a fur-suit", personaly it wouldnt be my cup of tea. (well...i have seen 2 suits that might convince me. do exceptions count?)

As far as the detractors of furrys go, i think most are just either missinformed and think its an offshoot of beastiality. Or B they denounce any form of sex that appears abhorrent to them. Such is the life of a christian owned world in which the idea that people want sex, even "different" sex, is shunned or repressed.

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at 18 Oct 2007: 20:19

>>51
>>52

See

>>50
>There's also the possibility of a more progressive type of conversion. For instance, nanomachines or chips that interface directly with the brain and supplant most of it's functions, until ultimately, your whole brain has been slowly replaced by silicon that does the exact same thing. Problem solved.

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at 19 Oct 2007: 11:37

>>54
Right, but that's a different thing than copying yourself to a chip. The whole issue was about copying - not transforming yourself into a machine.

And even then, when your brain is completely silicon, you'd have to make a copy of yourself to move anywhere from the same physical body. Same problem occurs: the copy is not the original.

Eventually you just have to modify your existing body to accomplish anything useful, which is exactly what we try to avoid because it's so damn complicated.

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at 19 Oct 2007: 13:49

What was this thread originally about, anyway?

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at 19 Oct 2007: 17:12

>>55
I don't think >>44's idea was necessarily copying, a progressive conversion would give the same effect he's talking about.

And no, once your brain was completely silicon you could just take it out and stick it in another body. Why would you have to make a copy of yourself? Do you have to make a copy of a CPU in order to take it out of one socket and put it in another?

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Sparks at 19 Oct 2007: 18:27

You could put your brain inside a robot's body, but it could only be five feet tall.

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Nick at 20 Oct 2007: 00:56

As long as I can be a BarbeauBot WITH chainsaw hands!

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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at 20 Oct 2007: 02:46

I am a fur aswell, I try to avoid changing my words like that but it happens every so often. Fapping? Yes all furrys do it, if you say you dont then your lieing -.- as for a suit I dont own one and being furry a lifestyle? Definitely, its always incorperated into everyday life, either in ya head or outloud.

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FurryFox at 20 Oct 2007: 21:14

>>50
haha..the prestiege..killing his copy
for those who may not know its a movie, a good and bit confusing one at that
>>52 well..it would be weird, but u could "fool around" with ur furry self at least.
also, instead of just copying ur brain waves onto a chip for the furry, or w/e, y not make it a connection, like a direct wave connection so u can know everything going on in your other head, the furry one, it would be quite confusing at first, but u could eventually learn how to use both, or just have ur human body like a vegetable or on life support, or w/e its the future, while you go around living it up as a furry.
possibly just have ur brain alive in a jar sending and recieving the constant brain waves to and from ur furry body..
making any sense?

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at 21 Oct 2007: 18:24

Meh. I dunno if I'd consider myself furry TBH, but by everyone else's standards I certainly am.

The biggest extent I go to in real life is being a little furry-flamboyant, if you get me. If the subject comes up I treat it jokingly, etc.

I'm basically a closet furry. I wouldn't deny it if somebody asked me, but I don't go around saying "HAY I LIEK TEH YIFFS!!!". Frankly that annoys me, the same way it does when gay guys pretend they are female.

Basically I'm open minded about it, but I try to keep it from being an overt aspect of my personality. Mostly for the sake of others around me, it's just what I see as right. You shouldn't rub your personality in other's faces without them wanting, IMO.

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