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According to this poll;
http://www.gametrailers.com/viewnews.php?id=5799

Parents feel that a man and woman having sex(37%) and two gay men kissing (27%) is more offensive than multiple use of the f word(10%) and a graphically severed human head(26%). In other words over 50% of parents believe sexuality is more wrong than violence and cursing.

What is with the religious right in this country? It's ok to kill in the most violent and torturous ways but it's not ok to have kissing or sex? Ridiculous.

It has nothing to do with the "religious right"; they are just as incensed by the profanity and violence as by the sex.  Blame *laziness*.  Sex is complicated so parents don't want to deal with explaining it until the last possible moment.  It's also easier because kids probably won't become killers until their early 20's (unless they're already pathological) but they can get themselves or somebody else knocked up or STD infected while they're still too young to kick out of the house.
(Maybe I'm just too cynical today.)

>>4

Killing is considered more natural than sex, I think. Of course, both are equal, whereas I'm pretty sure every living thing will prefer sex over killing, so sex seems to be even more natural.

But watch a random documentary about animals. There will always be scenes in which the preadator kills his prey, and as we know it can be quite a bloody mess. While watching these scenes, I GUESS that most parents wouldn't care if their children are watching. It's interesting to learn about the rough nature, it's possible to explain the children why it's necessary and why theyself need to kill animals and eat meat etc. but I can imagine that many parents, especially in the US, will switch the channel or don't answer their offsprings questions that eagerly when it comes to the mating scenes.

Of course, the US thing is a kind of prejudice. But I live in europe and "over here" sex isn't as demonized as it seems it is in the US, judging by what you percept from "our" point of view. There's censoring of sexual content on TV, curses are beeped-out, even a breast on TV will cause a major scandal in the US, whereas violence is no problem at all. I guess people just don't like to talk about sex in public, me neither. I believe that my sexuality is my own business - I talk quite a lot about, though, but only close friends of mine will hear about. I have no intention on telling strangers about it, but I have no problem considering sex in general, from a objective point of view, because I know it's a good thing and it's also very interesting. Most people in europe seem to share this point of view, since naked people on TV are no problem. Sometimes it's a problem for me because you already see naked people around lunch time, but the television is another topic alltogether. But as a matter of fact, no one is disturbed by sex and nudity.

I don't know why Americans are that much ashamed of their own sexuality (again, that's a prejudice, but you get the point). Maybe someone living in the US could make s statement from his personal point of view?

Before everyone uses this to reaffirm a stereotype, let's look at this. We're talking about a guy with a blog conducting a very informal survey that targets a select demographic using questions we aren't made privy to and offering no raw data.

>>7
True, but the stereotype does seem correct, you need only look at faux passes that differ in the US from Europe.

In the US men handshake with a VERY firm grip (I remember a couple times shaking hands with  Americans and it was like "OW?!"), NEVER come into physical contact unless it's a an equally "manly" slap on the back congratulating them or a handshake. Nudity is NEVER shown before the watershed, and god forbid someone gets their tit out during superbowl, we all remember that farce. (My kid's mind is scarred by a clsoeup view of a breast... nevermind I breastfed him and he's now 15 anyway)

By contrast in Southern Europe it's quite common for close male friends to kiss on each cheek in some instances (or more often a hug), even more so with female friends, while in daytime news (Such as the Euronews network) it's quite common to see full frontal nudity, particulary in the cultural news.

Those arn't misconceptions but "the truth" (tm)


So, yeah I'm intrested in an explanation from someone over the pond ;p

>>10
Video games obviously ;p - and television. "Oh noes my son saw a person horribly maimed in a game, now he'll grow up to be a psychkiller, how can I sleep at night?"

Or maybe religion. "My son's mind is corrupted now and he's condemned to hell because someone dared suggest my holy book was not correct".

At any rate ANYTHING is more constructive to discuss than whether seeing a nipple will destroy someone's mind.

>>9
My mind was scarred by that!  That was Janet Freaking Jackson twenty years past her prime...with Justin Timberlake no less!  I'm all for tits on TV (and in general really), but for God's sake keep it tasteful!  If we aren't careful, Rosie may someday feel empowered to bare all.  Emperor preserve us!

As for stereotypes, the plain and simple fact is that they are often right on the mark.  The problem is that "often" isn't "always."  You are correct that we tend to have a lot of the hand crushers here.  As with all stereotypes, however, there are a great many exceptions.  Amongst the more traditional of the indigenous peoples of the continent, for example, it is generally considered quite rude to exert any pressure while shaking hands or for the gesture to last longer than a brief moment.

I have noticed that they tend to be most prevalent amongst the self-described self-made-men from the Northeast and rural stoics from Fly-Over Country.  While commonly viewed by non-hand-crushers as an act of overcompensation and intimidation, I have begun to suspect that it may also be, surprisingly enough, a genuine sign of affection offered by men who wouldn't otherwise feel comfortable within three feet of another man (I refer you to the American concept of "personal space").

>>1 That's because God loves violence, and if you don't believe me, go to www.evilbible.com, but for some reason Sex doesn't turn him on quite as much as people being burned as offerings, people being stoned to death, or children being mauled by bears.

if parents allowed their kids to be exposed to sex, the kids would likely be curious to try it out/watch parents/talk to others about it -- which means it's the *parents* who'd have to support the resulting baby, explain stuff to appalled teachers and neighbors, or go to jail :3 as if parents don't have enough problems to deal with as it is.

>>17
Yeah, that's the very argument to use against all that sex education stuff. Keep it a mystery so they'll have to figure it out on their own using untrustworthy sources and not have to worry about knowing how to do it safely. And make doubly certain that they don't have access to birth conrtrol, as that will just encourage them when they start experimenting.

I"m also certain that will guarantee that they grow up to have a healthy, normal  view of sex: that it's something you don't talk about and are supposed to be ashamed to acknowledge. You most certainlly never ask you parents questions concerning it, and parents should never expose their children to anything about it beyond, "It's bad, so don't do it, m'kay?"

You did get that part about the parents being the responsible party right, though.

So some of you are genuinely of the opinion that a few cusswords and a black eye are worse than having to support the teenage happy couple that drop out of school because they can't support the baby?

Yeah right.

Researchers say violence on TV is not likely to cause violence on the people who watch it. Sex on the other hand arouses people.

Whenever I watch Chuck Norris do a roundhouse kick, I don't feel like going out and beating the shit out ouf people. Whenever I see pornography or erotica, I usually get a boner and want to have sex.

>>22
Dude. According to you, kids should watch sex on TV instead of Chuck Norris.

Kids don't become violet after watching Chuck. Kids become horny after watching sex. Horny kids have sex, and sex leads to teenage pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases, hearbreaks and all in all in the loss of your childhood naivety.

I'm all for sex-ed in the schools, but sex on TV is a no-no. Don't force kids to grow up too soon.

I really don't get this, why not just look at the numbers, the USA has one of the worse counts of Teenage pregnancies of the developed countries. I can only speculate why.

>>22
Getting the shit kicked out of you by Chuck Norris would be a once-in-a-lifetime event--something to tell your grandkids about.   It would probably be cooler if it were Bruce Lee, though.

>>28
Ewwww!  Would you want to hear about your grandfather's sexual exploits?  That would be as horrifying as 2girls1cup.

O.o oh dear

No, no here's the thing: keep the sex on TV, educate the kids, AND SHUT DOWN THE TABOO ON MASTURBATION.

Fer crissakes, if you get horny watching sex on TV at least you can go wank it in your room. It's not an immediate I MUST GO HAVE SEX NOW, as that requires WORK and having A PARTNER. Well-adjusted kids who are given the option to masturbate and educated on sex--both when to do it and when not to do it, not to mention HOW to do it--are probably more likely to get their rocks off that way then seeking someone else for sex.

Obviously this is not universal, nor applicable to every age.

However, I think we can all agree that being told wanking is a GOOD THING can be very beneficial?

>>34

"The fewer taboos we have, the better"
But lets keep some of those taboos...
like dogf*cking and childraepingz, lol.

>>34

"The fewer taboos we have the better."

What does that even mean? A taboo is simply something society as a whole (or at least a significant majority) has decided they don't wish to participate in and/or talk about (possibly openly and/or in private).

In fact, most of the time things considered really "taboo" are illegal in some ways.  For example, the FCC rules regarding broadcast television and standard public decency laws.

What kinds of things that currently are "taboo" do you think should be "mainstream"?

^And incest is fine so long as there are no babies, lol.