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at 9 May 2008: 04:09

I've pretty much stopped looking at furry porn because there's no way to filter out what I don't like.  What is it that I don't like?  Animal peenor!  Furry porn with animal penis is almost just as common as furry porn with human penis these days, and don't even get me started on knots!  A lot of the time I'm scrolling through here, I find a picture I like, get excited, scroll down to the next image, and... awww, excitement over!  Then you've got that Zeta stuff, taking things to a whole nother level of blahness.  Seriously, I can't be the only one who's turned off by this stuff.

Uhh... am I?

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at 9 May 2008: 06:03

Congratulations!  You're the least furry furry i've ever heard of!

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SFlanagan at 9 May 2008: 06:23

If you find animal penises offensive, I find it hard to imagine how you you can stand fchan at all. I'd say about 70% of canine and 95% equine charecters would have penises styled after their real-life counterparts.
It's so common in the fandom's artwork that it's difficult to imagine your complaint being backed up by more than one or two other furrys.

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at 9 May 2008: 06:36

Each to their own an all, but to the Op here, as you've no doubt found, the absolute large majority of furry art depicts the male characters with genetalia in the style of the animal after which they are fashioned; it's almost a given that that's how it will be drawn.

If you find that in particular to be a turn off, then you might need to think seriously about what it _is_ that makes you attracted to furry art, and perhaps find another form or style of art that fills that desire instead.

If it really is furry art as a whole that you find appealing, but just can't stand animalistic male genetalia, then you need to udnerstand that you're going to find yourself in an extreme minority.  There are a couple of things you can do:

First up, you can try sticking to the female only sections of Fchan and other such boards... no penis at all means no animalistic penises to turn you off. 

If that won't do, then you could try seeking out or starting up specific threads, offering up your own collection and seeking more, making explicit what you do and do not wish to see in the thread (remember the offering up is as important as the taking, it's how this community should work...)

Aside from that, chances are you aren't going to find overly many sympathetic ears around here, becasue, as you've found, the thing you dislike is, for the most part, part and parcle of most furry art.

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Min at 9 May 2008: 06:57

>>1

Alternately, you can stick to /f/.  No need to worry about penises in there!  Animalistic vaginas are practically unheard of.

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at 9 May 2008: 08:21

I understand how OP feels. Furry porn in general has become a turn off for me, I stick to /c/ now. Sure, those who like human-like cocks may be a minority, but there is a large amount of material out there. Try starting a thread for it.

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LilShock#DomqBXTOlk at 9 May 2008: 08:23

>>1
I whole heartedly agree. There's way too many perfectly good pics that are completely ruined with an animal penis. Some times it's creepy, some times it's just lazy with the pointy red torpedo. Sometimes I just think "Way to go making people thing furries screw animals :/" Luckily most really good artist won't draw it and put it in their commission list they won't (like myself). Luckily it's not a majority that has it, but it is common.

and >>4 & >>5 , No one should have to stick to /f/. Animal cocks are not the majority. Just something tolerated in the fandom. It really should be /a/ material.

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at 9 May 2008: 08:37

It is honestly a shame that dogs have such ugly veiny raw looking cocks. Why can't they have smooth fleshy cocks like people? It would make watching bestiality a lot more appealing. Knots are sort of gross really.

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at 9 May 2008: 09:57

What's worse is females with multiple breasts. That's far too much like a real animal to the point where it gets creepy and unsexy.

The same with long muzzles on canine females, but to a lesser degree.

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at 9 May 2008: 10:01

>>9

I meant multiple pairs of breasts

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at 9 May 2008: 11:35

I generally can't stand animal penises myself, though horse cocks don't bother me. As for females, I can tolerate four breasts, but that's about it.

Peircings and hyper anything are what turn me off, and to a smaller extent, human-like head hair.

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at 9 May 2008: 11:38

>>11

I agree, piercings can ruin a sexy pic. I only hate human-like hair if it's not even close to the same color as the fur. Or on an animal that doesn't even have hair.

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at 9 May 2008: 13:42

>>1  I'm not turned off by it, but I'm not that fond of it over a more human look either.  I draw both as the mood strikes me, or as requested by friends and fans, or some less-disturbing hybrid of animal/human. 

>>8 Incidently, the raw-veiny look is the thing I do away with the most is anthro-cocks.  Anything that looks like an internal organ isn't that sexy too me. 

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>>13 at 9 May 2008: 13:49

>>1  Also, you might want to find artists that do draw human cock often/eexclusively, and show them some appreciation for that fact. 

If everytime I draw dog cock I get dozen of comments proclaiming it the best-thing-EVAH and my human cock pics get only the same folks being naysayers with nary a good comment to be found, guess which one I'm likely to draw when I'm feeling like an attention whore? 

(And many artists really are attention whores, really...  We thrive on feedback, even if it's for all the wrong reasons, or whatnot...)

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at 9 May 2008: 15:44

Heh. I kinda agree with OP in that I don't like animalistic genitalia, though I also think if that's what people want to draw, that's their right.

Reminds me, though, am I seriously the only furry who doesn't like the fact that spooge is such a dominant theme in the vast majority of adult furry pictures? It _is_ possible to have sex without getting it everywhere. :P

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Deatzh at 9 May 2008: 16:04

>>15
I'm not fond with an extensive amount of it, either.  In a big vat of unrealistic things, the amount is one of the many things that I'd like to stay realistic.
Heh.

Also, I'm not too fond of canine genitals... Dunno why.  Everything else seems to be okay.

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at 9 May 2008: 17:27

yes! i completely agree with mr. >>1
<3 human penises

and >>4 is talking shit

>  think seriously about what it _is_ that makes you attracted to furry art, and perhaps find another form or style of art that fills that desire instead.

this bit here just pisses me off no end (as does the rest of the post, come to think of it, but anyway)

people find furry art attractive because theyre attracted to something that's basically human with various animal characteristics. usually the only 100% defining factor of furry is that the character is, well, furry (or scaly, or feathery, or whatever) and probably has the ears and tail of whatever animal they're based on.

other animalistic features are sometimes present, sometimes not, it depends on how the artist chose to depict the character - sometimes you'll have a 100% animal face, sometimes near enough human. sometimes human-esque hands and feet, sometimes animal paws.. sometimes multi-boobs. and so on. the same goes for penises. some people don't like animal cocks - that doesn't make them any less furry.yes! i completely agree with mr. >>1
<3 human penises

and >>4 is talking shit

>  think seriously about what it _is_ that makes you attracted to furry art, and perhaps find another form or style of art that fills that desire instead.

this bit here just pisses me off no end (as does the rest of the post, come to think of it, but anyway)

so some people don't like animal cocks - that doesn't make them any less furry. people find furry art attractive because theyre attracted to something that's basically human with various animal characteristics. the only thing you can say most furry characters are, well, furry (or scaly or feathery or whatever) and probably have the ears and tail of whatever animal they're based on.

other animalistic features are sometimes present, sometimes not, it depends on how the artist chose to depict the character - sometimes you'll have a 100% animal face, sometimes near enough human. sometimes human-esque hands and feet, sometimes animal paws.. sometimes multi-boobs. and so on. the same goes for penises. the only 100% defining factor of a furry is "it's a human with animal characteristics" - which animal characteristics are actually applied is entirely down to the whim of the artist. and after all, you can't have animal -everything-, because then you'd just have an animal.

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at 9 May 2008: 17:28

piss flaps, i didn't mean to do that. if a mod could delete the above i'd be much obliged <3
only the second half was supposed to post, this bit:

yes! i completely agree with mr. >>1
<3 human penises

and >>4 is talking shit

>  think seriously about what it _is_ that makes you attracted to furry art, and perhaps find another form or style of art that fills that desire instead.

this bit here just pisses me off no end (as does the rest of the post, come to think of it, but anyway)

so some people don't like animal cocks - that doesn't make them any less furry. people find furry art attractive because theyre attracted to something that's basically human with various animal characteristics. the only thing you can say most furry characters are, well, furry (or scaly or feathery or whatever) and probably have the ears and tail of whatever animal they're based on.

other animalistic features are sometimes present, sometimes not, it depends on how the artist chose to depict the character - sometimes you'll have a 100% animal face, sometimes near enough human. sometimes human-esque hands and feet, sometimes animal paws.. sometimes multi-boobs. and so on. the same goes for penises. the only 100% defining factor of a furry is "it's a human with animal characteristics" - which animal characteristics are actually applied is entirely down to the whim of the artist. and after all, you can't have animal -everything-, because then you'd just have an animal.

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at 9 May 2008: 17:43

Everyone likes different things, just because things exist that you don't like exist doesn't mean it's the end of the world, get over it.

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at 9 May 2008: 21:33

Not into the male art myself, so I stay away from it, but penises on female characters?. BARRRRRRRF!

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at 9 May 2008: 23:48

>>15
No, you're not alone either - I detest excessive amounts of fluids that the fandom in general seems obsessed with. 

There's a difference between 'cum for me baby, oh yaeh..!' and 'drown me in jizz and make me need a jumbo beach towel as a spoo-rag'. 

Too much just gets gross, but then I'm pretty moderate in most ways compared to a lot of folks in the furry universe.  

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at 9 May 2008: 23:56

Only bothers me that generally most people that draw animal anatomy do not know how it functions. Which slightly agitates me bit by bit inside.

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at 9 May 2008: 23:59

>>21
What's the point of being in a fantasy universe if things aren't exaggerated? That's like saying a videogame or movie can't have someone jumping more than a few feet in the air or OMG its too unrealistic!

Granted, I understand where you are coming from, just a lot of people enjoy porn art because it does things not possible in the real world.

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Sydney at 10 May 2008: 00:00

I personally edit the art with dog-cock (or other animal-style cocks) whenever I'm able. Makes them unsharable, though. :(
I hate to dismiss good yiff because it has a cock or  two I don't like. :x

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at 10 May 2008: 00:21

>>23
I'm not in a fantasy universe.  I'm in reality, and merely partake in the occasional fantasy, and my fantasies don't need excessive exaggeration of anything to be enjoyable. 

In other words, I can happily partake in the rather sedate furry fantasy of anthropomorphic creatures that have reasonably sized genitalia that produce a reasonable amount of fluid when they ejaculate. 

I don't need my fantasies to involve 12 foot tall anthros with freakishly huge, anatomically irrelevant muscles, and a 18 inch cock, that shoots a gallon of jizz each of the 14 times he can achieve orgasm in an hour. If you need that level of exaggeration to enjoy it, that's your issue, not mine.

There's nothing to say a fantasy needs to involve extremes to be arousing/interesting, and honestly this idea that 'fetish-stacking' is part and parcel of what 'furry' has come to be about pisses me off. 

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>>25 at 10 May 2008: 00:23

>>24  Oh, and people who edit art to fit there own ideals suck.  Go hire an artist to draw to your whim if you so desperately need it to be that way. 

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Sydney at 10 May 2008: 00:54

The only editors that suck are those that try to pass the work off as their own or that share suich edits on boards like this. ;) Editor  =/=  Art Thief to anyone with an ounce of logic.

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at 10 May 2008: 05:08

>>27
Seconded. Why should it matter to anyone else if people are editing art and never releasing it to the public? :P

>>25
You are extremely lucky you're not a fatfur. (if you are, good gods, I feel your pain) The exaggeration gets outright ridiculous in a lot of subgroups, and the unfortunate thing is that the more down-to-earth, natural-ish versions are the exception to the general rule.

Oddly enough, this goes especially for the topic at hand. I've come really close to thanking artists profusely for giving their anthro males penises smaller than my forearm, because it's just that rare. :/

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at 10 May 2008: 05:23

fchan: discussing issues that really matter since 2004

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at 10 May 2008: 09:24

>>29  Heh, here here.


>>17 / >>18

I wouldn't say I was talking shit, just expressing an opinion, along with a few suggestions as to what the Op could actually do as possible ways of resolving their problem, rather than just complaining about it.

At no point did I imply that the Op was not a furry, or somehow lesser than others for their personal likes and dislikes; to do that _would_ be talking shit.  I don't know the person, and neither do you, and I'm sure, like the rest of us, they didn't just sit down one day and decided what they do and do not find arousing.

Like it or not, however, human penises on furry males is a minority.  Some like it and draw it one way, fewer like it and draw it the other; big deal.  I'm not fussy either way, but each to their own.

I found it interesting that the person could have gotten into furry artwork without coming up against animalistic penises so quickly as to make them stay away from it from the outset, hence my question about what it was about furry art that they enjoyed, because unless they initially only viewed art from select artists, or got unusually lucky, they would not have initially found mostly humanoid penises.

**shrug**  I merely suggesting some things the Op might try, namely _avoid_ the thing they don't like, and look for/create threads seeking specifically artwork that lacks it.  It doesn't exactly require higher order faculties...

Oh, and to >>7

"There's way too many perfectly good pics that are completely ruined with an animal penis. Some times it's creepy, some times it's just lazy with the pointy red torpedo." 

Ruined, in your opinion, perhaps, and fair enough, but if dislike for animalistic penises were not in the minority, then, plain and simple, this discussion wouldn't be happening, because there'd be more human penis than animal, and there aren't.

"Sometimes I just think 'Way to go making people thing furries screw animals :/' "

Can you explain your thought process there to me?  How exactly does artwork of a humanoid character, but with an animalistic penis, equate to shouting that you screw animals?  That simply doesn’t connect unless you have a pre-conceived dim and narrow view of furries already...  and a part of me wonders what that says that that's how your thought processes run.

"Luckily most really good artist won't draw it and put it in their commission list they won't (like myself). Luckily it's not a majority that has it, but it is common."

This is plain and simply not true.  Setting discussions over what makes a 'really good artist' (and I note from your grammar that you are classing yourself in that territory, or was that accidental?), most artists who do commissions have no such denial of service anywhere.  A few, perhaps, will only draw them one way or the other, but by no means 'most'

"No one should have to stick to /f/. Animal cocks are not the majority. Just something tolerated in the fandom. It really should be /a/ material."

Male furries drawn with animalistic genetalia should be /a/ material, huh?  Interestingly enough, if you applied that rule (and of course, you'd need to apply it to everything across all boards equally or more /a/ than that), you'd probably find that there'd be practically nothing left in /f/, /m/, /h/, or /s/ (though there'd be more in /toon/ as, admittedly, humanoid penises enjoy a slightly larger extent there)

When all said and done, what it comes down to is looking at what you like, and not looking at what you dislike, simple as that...  I prefer 2 breasts, for example, more is fine, and some can still be dead sexy, sure, but for the most part none of them measure up to images with a human breast count for me.

As for the exaggeration thing, I have to fall in with >>25 and company, I know talking about realism when you're looking at an anthropomorphic wolf might seem like a moot point, but for me personally, I can't understand how productiveness/size/length to the point where it becomes silly can remain erotic and appealing for some.  I'm happy to acknowledge that for some it does, but it's not for me, so (and here's the lesson) I don't bother looking at threads entitled "Drowning in cum" or "City-Crushing Inflation"

**breathes**

Now ending Rant/Reply Sequence.  Obtaining Caffeinated Beverage.  System Offline.

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at 11 May 2008: 00:25

>>28
No, I don't classify not a fatfur, but I've seen that whole can of worms spilling all over the 'chubby guys' threads from time to time.  It seems some furries can't even enjoy their not-quite-average stuff without ridiculous levels of exaggeration/excess to push things so far beyond the realm of believability (IE:  Where one can no longer suspend one's disbelief that a thing that isn't possible may actually be under X circumstances/rational).

And I didn't equate folks who edit an artist's work to 'art thieves' (since in my mind, theft still involves actually taking something...  'art fraud' might be more applicable to what passes as a tragedy in the furry community), I merely said they suck.  In other words, I find the activity personally distasteful, and offensive to artists, regardless of whether the results are ever posted (which they often are, even with the best intentions).  I would never do it myself, so I tend to think less of folks who do it, or worse think it's perfectly acceptable. 

Then again, I see putting mustaches on the Mona Lisa or loin clothes on the Sistine Chapel in much the same light, so it's likely just my art-fascist indoctrination from art school influencing my feelings on the subject, which I'm surprisingly okay with. 

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at 11 May 2008: 05:40

I agree with the op.  dog dicks are fricking disgusting.

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Hakar at 11 May 2008: 06:03

Considering the amount of people in this thread acting like dog penis is the end of the world, I'd say the idea that they are somehow a minority is rather silly.

In fact, treating dog cock as anything but a personal preference is silly. Some people like them, some do not.
Me? I like them, as long as they are uncoloured or pink/black. No bundle of veins for me please.

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at 11 May 2008: 10:11

>>21

Spooge-fests aren't just a furry fandom phenomenon/problem. Anyone believing that hasn't got out much. Quoted from "How to Draw Hentai" (Bang Comics):

"A word of Warning: If you go searching for hentai, you will find some TRULY WEIRD SHIT."

"This doesn't mean that every piece of artwork you do has to be a gore-filled semen carnival, but the hentai style affords you the option to go from the utterly absurd to the completely deranged."

"Don't cum as you are--Portraying copious amounts of semen emphasizes two things: the virility of the cock and the desirability of its target."

"With a hentai style, you can throw out that pesky gadfly that stalks us all: REALITY. One might remark that I draw abnormally large dicks, impossible penetrations, multiple orgasms with copious amounts of semen. Thats because they're cartoons!"

Spooge isn't a hallmark of furry porn, if anything, it's mimicking a far larger body of commercialized hentai. Just going by 4chan's /h/, (I look at far more hentai than yiff--it's just far better drawn, sorry) there are more than enough impossible jizzfests posted in a typical week to cast furry porn spooge, as much of a convenient whipping boy as it is, as a distant also-ran.

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at 11 May 2008: 18:23

>>34
There's pretty much nothing that's done in furry porn - with the exception of the anthro-critters themselves - that isn't done by folks in other subcultures and the larger culture as a whole. 

But furries have that whole Aspergers obsession thing going on, that makes any fetish they take an interest in (or an aversion to) into A Really Big Thing for them. 

I think it's that, more than anything else, that makes fucked up extremes in furry seem more overwhelming/prevalent than they really are. 

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at 12 May 2008: 14:54

The one thing I don't get about dog penises (horse and lizard penises to an extent as well, although they aren't *quite* as prevalent), is why they are the one piece of animal anatomy people tend to draw.  You see them an awful lot on canine characters, right down to the veins and knots (some of them so detailed they look like they came right out of a veterinary textbook), but there isn't nearly as much emphasis put on other parts of animal anatomy.  If you ask the same person who draws dog units why they draw Blaziken or Wave with boobs, or why Colleen doesn't have a Y-shaped vag, or why Flamedramon has balls, they just tell you "they're sexier that way".  Obviously, anatomical consistency isn't most artists goal, but for some reason dog penises apparently have some kind of special allure to them.  I mean, why that and nothing else?

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at 12 May 2008: 15:39

>>35

The amount the fucked up extremes in furry seem more overwhelming/prevalent is directly related to the amount people look for/focus on them.

But the same can probably be said about anything in furry, including armchair theories about Aspergers. The more people look for something, the more they'll see it.

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at 13 May 2008: 20:45

>>36
Probably because of the organ itself. Its very exotic and different vibe from the human penis. Even though it functions so much differently, that function itself which apparently doesn't exist in the furry fandom. In fact every penis shape behaves and functions just the same as a humans does, its just the physical representation is just more "animal like."


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anonymous at 14 May 2008: 11:42

>>38
I 2nd this. People like weird looking exotic cocks because, in general, they like weird looking exotic things.

>>35
I wonder how many furries have 'light' schizophrenia. That is: You ask yourself a question, and then you answer yourself in a voice with a British accent that says something like "Who cares what you think."

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at 14 May 2008: 13:41

>>39
"Get outta my head, Mr. Leech!  I never cared about the rich and famous anyway!" 

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