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1 Report	at 27 Aug 2008: 22:59 i feel if it has a ballsack it is a man reguardless if it has titties.
2 Report	at 27 Aug 2008: 23:05 Oh.
3 Report	at 27 Aug 2008: 23:37 >>1 With that kind of logic you could say that every human is a man because every human has a nose--of course we know that females exist therefore your feeling is just a feeling but not a fact.
4 Report	at 27 Aug 2008: 23:58 Are we talking furry or RL here?
5 Report	at 28 Aug 2008: 00:05 yes everybody has a nose but only males have a scrotum.RL and furry
6 Report	at 28 Aug 2008: 00:05 What if it has an _empty_ ballsack? Or how about a ballsack with ovaries inside?
7 Report	at 28 Aug 2008: 00:28 >>5 And only females have breasts, so anything else is not completely man nor woman. Gender, especially fictional genders, is a spectrum. A true typical herm tends towards an equal mix of both male and female so by definition it's not fair to stereotype and only say that balls make the man and leave it at that. Don't overgeneralize.
8 Report	at 28 Aug 2008: 01:27 WHO CARES
9 Report	at 28 Aug 2008: 01:37 all that needs to be said women cannot have a scrotum.
10 Report	LLz at 28 Aug 2008: 02:56 Females have only female reproductive organs. Males have only male reproductive organs. Herms have both reproductive organs. Neuters have neither reproductive organs. (considered non-functional) Asexuals have reproductive organs/systems which enables them to reproduce without impregnation. (for note: being asexual isn't mutually exclusive with being male, female, or herm, the asexual reproductive system is a seperate reproductive system entirely, even though it usuallt but not always functions using the female reproductive system) Any species which has reproductive organs which doesn't fit into any of the above, are simply not classifiable by the conventional system. This includes fictional species with more than two functional genders, or species which doesn't reproduce by egg+sperm and isn't asexual. Breasts are not reproductive organs. Male reproductive organ generally means the scrotum (or sperm bearing organ). Female reproductive organs generally means the ovaries (or egg bearing organ). The penis and vagina, while commonly associated with their respective genders, are not representative of gender by themselves.
11 Report	at 28 Aug 2008: 11:17 >>8 The purpose of discussion boards is to discuss.
12 Report	at 28 Aug 2008: 11:22 >>10 True, breasts aren't reproductive organs but in nature they are found on females and females have female reproductive organs--hence in nature if you have breasts it 'normally' follows by extension that you have female reproductive organs.
13 Report	Hakar at 28 Aug 2008: 12:24 >>11 And what an awesome discussion this is.
14 Report	LLz at 28 Aug 2008: 12:45 >>12 In nature, male mammals generally also have breasts, abeit lesser developed. And non mammals generally don't have breasts at all. - Instance of naturally occuring males with lactating breasts: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyak_fruit_bat - Of male lactation... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_lactation
15 Report	at 28 Aug 2008: 20:51 Hrm, since ovaries and testicles both form from the gonads as an embryo, how exactly would you ever get a herm if the definition of a herm if they present both sets of sexual organs, since they're mutually exclusive, you can either have ovaries (female), testicals (male), or a failed point somewhere between the two (neuter) (And don't say breasts + testicles unless the breasts are capable of lactation, ie. a very much female function. Otherwise breasts are a secondary sexual feature)
16 Report	LLz at 28 Aug 2008: 23:04 >>15 By having multiple gonads develop, and/or gonads which split into multiples somewhere in development, and/or gonads which can alternate between the two. Which is present in other species, and I presume therotically possible in humans. E.g. Plants develope multiple sexual organs during their lifetime, and several species develope male and female parts either at the same time, or on alternating periods. E.g. Several fish species are born as a certain gender, but can later switch to the opposite gender. E.g. Some invertebres and fish species simply has both reproductive organs. Irregardless of how you look at it, herms are present in nature, though currently not proven in humans. Since we are probably including anthros and fantasy, it is entirely possible to depict a true herm human or other creature, whether it exists in real life or not. References: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermaphrodite http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersexuality
17 Report	at 29 Aug 2008: 23:29 >>15 Life will find a way.
18 Report	at 30 Aug 2008: 07:43 >>17 Brilliant!
19 Report	at 31 Aug 2008: 23:08 i agree with this assement>>15
20 Report	at 31 Aug 2008: 23:11 >>16 plants arn't people
21 Report	LLz at 1 Sep 2008: 07:28 >>20 It's an example. Animals aren't people either, but people seems to have fantasies of people/animal hybrids. And not to mention DNA-wise, most living things (as we know it) aren't that different from each other anyway.
22 Report	at 1 Sep 2008: 08:09 >>21 I think you'll find plants are a little way off from humans and animals... Um... an entire kingdom out. Plants occupy the Kingdom of Eukaryotes -> Plantae Most animals that feature as furries are from the branch: Eukaryotes -> Animalia -> Chordata -> Vertebrata -> Mammalia -> Which is the exact same point cats seperate from say dogs, as humans seperate from them also. ie. a human has about as much in common with a cat as a cat does with a dog. (Cats go into Order: Felidae, humans into Order: Primates etc) If it wasn't plants and animals both share the Domain eukaryotes the only tier lower on the chart they have in common is the division between living creatures an inanimate matter xD Alternativly, God said "let it be so" ;) /end biology lesson ^^
23 Report	LLz at 1 Sep 2008: 10:18 >>22 I think you'll find that inanimate matter is not entirely out of the question. (cue cyborgs/robots) But the whole point is that gender is not limited to Animalia, and hence still relevant to a topic asking about gender. So long as there's a similarity, it's conceivable for fantasy characters to take on characteristics on such (see example: plant type pokemon), and for science to somehow screw around with genetics to make a hybrid (and screw around some more to make said hybrid actually fertile).
24 Report	at 4 Sep 2008: 20:28 >>23 why would cyborgs or robots have scrotums,penises,boobs or vaginas.
25 Report	at 11 Sep 2008: 00:23 why to give love to you>>24
26 Report	at 11 Sep 2008: 00:27 boobs, pussy-woman boobs,penis,vagina-herm boobs,penis-man or tranny.
27 Report	at 15 Sep 2008: 21:19 ooh wahhhh
28 Report (sage)	at 16 Sep 2008: 08:20 >>27 Unless you have a point, please don't bump needlessly.
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