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I guess that was all people were waiting for was the answer to all of this XD

Good to know :3

>>1
In other words....no actual "incest" threads. There is no way of knowing if it's incest or not because it will basically be a regular ol picture posted in other topics such as "anal sex", "blowjobs", "paws" etc etc.

Yeah. So in other words incest IS banned because unless someone specifically mentions it's an incest picture there is no way people are going to know.

>>4
Does it make a difference (in terms of recognition) if one posts in an incest thread, or if one mentions in a topic in m/f/s/h? How does posting in an "incest thread" make a picture depict incest?

>>5
Wat

>>6
I don't even like incest but people who do won't know what images are incest now and thus it's effectively been banned from the site.

>>7
Doesn't work that way brah

>>8
I'd think situation and image titles (assuming the artist bothered with one) is more capable of properly denoting incest images than a clump of images in a thread named incest. (which may as well be simply images of critters with similar colouring)

Examples include Skunkwork sisters, "family" comics, and similar.

>>11

from what I'm interpreting, not fun at all.

And context is not important on image boards? It's all about context. In tiered layers. "Furry" probably being the top and branching out from there. The fact that "Incest" is a branch that has a mental appeal rather than a direct visual stimulus doesn't make it any less of a contextual thing than Anal, Vore, or, lemme think, choking furs. I guess I could pretend they're all choking....

>>14
What I find funny is that, after this has been posted, after these rules have been modified into their current status, there have only been, what, 2 people complaining about it?

As opposed to the consistent reposting of bitching threads and the torrent of people crying foul over the deletion of incest threads last time?

Odds are, you're one of the only people who's making this into too big a deal. By your logic of "pretending they're all choking" you can also pretend they're all related. Simple enough, sexual stimulation from an image stems from the imagination in some form anyway.

>>16
Yeah! How dare he "complain" about it right? Excellent popular opinion thinking from a group that's been ostracized by popular opinion.

>>19
You can't tell by looking if someone is related or not? And if we can't see it, then it must be restricted? Hey, if they can't see incest, then wtf is the problem eh? If "it isn't", then you shouldn't be retricted, because there is nothing to restrict, apparently.

What if you have two established characters from some source of popular media, who are related, and banging? You can see that, and it's incest.

>>1

"lol". The only proper response is this rule.

The context of an image -is- important. (Think of all those "anal" pictures where you never actually -see- which hole the cock is in)
Therefore, context is very important to the incest fetish. Banning incest is not the goal of The Powers That Be in this case, but is unfortunately a side-effect of incest threads. However, as was explained, it is intended to be a solution to child/cub, which -is- intended to be banned.
Consider the incest fetish as collateral damage in the witch-hunt for underaged characters.

Now either propose an alternative method of extracting cub from incest threads, accept that it is the best solution, or have a go at getting cub back altogether. Also, I have no idea why I ended up ranting about this. The discussions here are always pretty civil.

The legal issue is comprehensible. The most sensible response is active moderation. People going "Oh this image is unsuitable for a legally operating Fchan. It appears to convey clearly underaged individuals for the sexual gratification of those who find appeal in children." and flag it for a mod to deal with.

Cub porn doesn't need to hang out at Incest's house, but that's where it keeps its stash.

If you guys really want to count hairs here...

Sonic the Hedgehog a blue-furred 15-year-old anthropomorphic African pygmy hedgehog,

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_(character)
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Rose

The name "Miles Prower" is a pun on "miles per hour", a reference to the famed speed of the Sonic the Hedgehog series. He is a 8-year-old orange-golden yellow, anthropomorphic fox with two tails

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_%22Tails%22_Prower

Knuckles is a red 16-year-old anthropomorphic echidna,

this means that any and all sonic and sonic friends are thus underage... Waht now?

second, are you really going to ban people that ask you questions? seriously, thouse of us capable of arguing like this are the only reason you have that many visits... the rest are under the age of 16 and violate many more laws than a few younger looking furs.

If They Ban me just google my name.

>>32
Even though the imagery's based on said characters it doesn't necessitate them to be equilivant. Not to mention that Sonic as a character has been in more than 10 years, and there's future-existances of Sonic (and relevant characters) from the Archie comic line (Mobius: 25 Years Later).

>>33
"logical extension" doesn't mean anything unless there's a precedent set specifically for illustrated depictions of bestiality.

>>37
Why not? What's wrong with the discussion aspect of this thread, out of honest and legitimate curiosity? To the best of my knowledge parsing the whole descent of this conversation is undertaken on a voluntary basis, and so there's really no harm in having a topical discourse on your posting. And anyways, it keeps your post relevant and on the charts.

"If we didn't, there would be an endless regurgitation of the same conjectures, assumptions, accusations, etc. etc. etc"

So -the fuck- what? Is it just so horrible for a thread to be repeated that it needs to be set into rules that it can't be asked about again? Do you really need to cause MORE drama by demanding that people not discuss a topic? You don't see the pattern? You make a rule, people bitch about it. If you make a rule telling them not to bitch about that topic, they'll bitch about THAT rule.

http://fchan.me/read.php/dis/1204764192/1-40

The thread is still there. It's accessible to anyone who wants to read it. Several topics in /faq speak directly to the issue as well.

We have very few rules here, and most visitors don't have an issue abiding by them. Nobody said the topic wasn't open for discussion, we only asked that it not be discussed further here. It was the best way to separate those who bitch for the sake of bitching and those with legitimate arguments. The latter will gladly write an email or visit the IRC channel.

"grow up,"

Oh, sorry, I was unaware that being an adult meant never disagreeing and arguing with people. I guess that the rest of the world is just misinformed.

"get over it,"

How about this: No.

"get over yourself"

Looks like the only person here that needs to get over their self is you. I was arguing with something said. Falcon responded in what I consider an intelligent and thoughtful way, and you came in with so much chest beating and threats. How mature of you. I understand that I am not entitled to anything on this site. But that doesn't mean you aren't being an asshole for acting the way you are.

"and have a nice day."

I am, but last I checked, I didn't need your permission to do so.

"I do not argue with people who do not treat my Moderators with respect. I remove them."

Oh, and I suppose that the "disrespect" was me putting the "-the fuck-" part in my comment eh? Or was it just the fact that I talked back? I mean, I could see if I had just been flaming and a nasty troll, but that comment up there warranted the threat of a ban? And I'm the one that needs to grow up and get over myself... well, I've argued with you, better go ahead and ban me now. "Ask and you shall receive."

>>45
No, I believe that that was Falcon's point, brown-noser, and >>44 was engaging in a completely different argument with Nadia. Try to keep up, and try not to brown nose so much.

>>46
And on that note, >>44 claims he can't disagree and argue, which is relevant to my point, which is that you can disagree/argue on this topic, in the irc channels and email. How am I off-topic?

>>49
>>44
Fine, if you insist, I'll just go over your points.

-Oh, sorry, I was unaware that being an adult meant never disagreeing and arguing with people. I guess that the rest of the world is just misinformed.
--Answered in >>42 : "Nobody said the topic wasn't open for discussion, we only asked that it not be discussed further here."

-How about this: No.
--Answered in >>47, key phrase "respecting the rules (unless there's no alternative)" : "There's a difference between brown nosing and respecting the rules of the site and moderators. You don't brown nose the law, you respect them. (unless there's no alternative, but that is not the case here)"

-Looks like the only person here that needs to get over their self is you. I was arguing with something said. Falcon responded in what I consider an intelligent and thoughtful way, and you came in with so much chest beating and threats. How mature of you. I understand that I am not entitled to anything on this site. But that doesn't mean you aren't being an asshole for acting the way you are.
--The fact is that you posted (or continue to contribute) to a thread that should never have existed here. There are alternatives available, see first point.

-I am, but last I checked, I didn't need your permission to do so.
--I believe that's a form of courtesy. Most company -based automatic email contains that message.

-Oh, and I suppose that the "disrespect" was me putting the "-the fuck-" part in my comment eh? Or was it just the fact that I talked back? I mean, I could see if I had just been flaming and a nasty troll, but that comment up there warranted the threat of a ban? And I'm the one that needs to grow up and get over myself... well, I've argued with you, better go ahead and ban me now. "Ask and you shall receive."
--The fact is that you posted (or continue to contribute) to a thread that should never have existed here. There are alternatives available, see first point.

To sum it up basically, they've asked that we not discuss the cub/incest topic here, not that we couldn't discuss any other topic here. I never discussed the cub topic here, so what you're telling me isn't really relevant to anything.

Let's a huddle around the fireplace for a moment of candid honesty with the resident raptor, shall we? Maybe grab some cocoa, a little Bailey's...

I might come across as eloquent but trust me, it's not always easy. The deleted post before mine was written by me and wasn't so well thought-out. The line 'Do you really need to cause more drama...' is hard to read without feeling as though it were an accusation.

It's a rare occasion when Nadia posts these days, but her word is the one that carries the most weight. She might not have established Fchan, but she established the Fchan we know today.

I try my best to communicate with people and answer their questions. Sometimes it feels I do more harm than good by doing it. Every poster is an individual: some have legitimate queries, others try to goad us into arguing because they like the sound of their own voice. It takes a lot of experience and a good sense of politics to be an effective moderator. I've been trying to learn on the fly, so please bare with me.

There are only a few more points I'd like to make. The discussion of cub is banned. Period. There has been enough drama over this one subject to meet the quota for the next decade. Nobody complains to the city because they can't smoke in restaurants anymore. Nobody complains to YouTube because they can't post hardcore porn on the site. It's simple accepted as the way it is. This is the way it is here.

As for calling those who are equally tired of seeing this thread stay way off-topic 'brown-nosers', keep this in mind. It's kind of hard to gain anyone's favour by making an unsigned post.

Now let's all take a deep breath, think before we write (I know.. but I deleted it) and try to get along. This is one of the few places where a person can say 'sexy dragon cock' and not draw a bunch of disgusted, confused stares. I like to think of this place as a community. The less quarreling amongst ourselves, the better it is for everyone.

Once again, thank you if you took the time to read this. This place might make a bird want to pull his feathers out at times, but I wouldn't give it up for anything.

>>55 And this is why you have no friends...