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at 8 Oct 2009: 19:35

I have explained this to many people over the years and nobody's seemed to have understood quite what I was trying to say so I thought I'd come here and ask.

I like women. This I know. T&A all the way. Of that I have no doubt.

Now when it comes to guys, I'm only interested in those who are furry. By that I mean I only like gay porn if it's got furs in it. The few m/m experiences I have had are with furs and I have NO interest in trying anything with a non-fur guy.

My question, WTF? Why is this so? It doesn't bother me. I'm actually quite happy with my current girlfriend and could go about my life being a heterosexual male. I'm just curious about this particular area. Any hints?

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at 8 Oct 2009: 20:58

Interesting, I remember a similar post a long while ago on that exact subject. I happen to be identical to you, straight for all intents and purposes, but when it comes to furry guys I am, for some reason, bi. And I am just as confused as you.

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at 8 Oct 2009: 21:45

Well, I've always held the opinion that it's just fantasy art, so it really shouldn't have that big of an impact on your life. I myself like women, but when it comes to scalies in art...anything goes.

I'm sure someone will come in blabbering on about some sort of retarded psychology shit that makes absolutely no sense, because that happened the last time, but honestly, when it comes to something not being real, people will be a little more... "exploring", if you will, with things. I don't know how to phrase that to not make it sound stupid. Lol

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at 9 Oct 2009: 00:36

>>3

yeah, far be it from us to interrupt your little "I'm a total straight normal guy" security jerk

look, the fact is that the reason you don't want to admit that you're gay is because you're AFRAID of what your friends, family, co-workers, and the rest of the world would see you as. Personally this kind of cowardice sickens me as it encourages even more bigotry and violence against gays.

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at 9 Oct 2009: 00:54

Ignore >>4.  Morons like that make _me_ sick.

There's not much "retarded psychology shit" to it. A very, very large majority of people are not completely straight or gay.  Go look up the Kinsey Scale on Wikipedia and come back.

Okay, so you already know you're attracted to certain male physical traits since you like m/m furry stuff.  Even if this is "softened" by many male furs having fairly effeminate physical features, you can't get away from cock, balls, and ass being very male ;)

So basically it comes down to this: you're bisexual.  Just because you prefer furry guys doesn't change that.  Sexuality is not an equal opportunity employer.  Being bi doesn't mean you have to like all guys, just that you find certain male traits attractive. 

Besides, as >>3 pointed out, this is fantasy so you're probably not actually acting on these feelings, which means they're not very strong.  If you ARE actually having real physical intimacy with other males then your bisexuality should be clear.

You're in the same boat as a lot of other people.  It's not something to really worry about or to analyze yourself to death over.

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at 9 Oct 2009: 07:04

>>4

Sorry, but no. Human males are disgusting to me, and I'd smash any guy who tried to touch me sexually into the ground. I'm not gay, nor will I ever be gay. Nothing personal, it just doesn't interest me.

>>5

You can't say someone is bisexual if they don't like human males at all. Furry != real life, I'm sorry to burst your bubbles.
Besides, for me it's not male traits I'm attracted to. I just really like scalies. I still go for the female art of that more, regardless. :V

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at 9 Oct 2009: 07:14

>>6 here,

For clarification, regardless of whether >>1 is talking about actual guys who're a part of the furry fandom or not, I myself talking about the actual anthros. Not people in real life.

Getting that in before someone starts bitching, although I'm sure they will anyway.

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at 9 Oct 2009: 07:48


>>6

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

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at 9 Oct 2009: 07:50

>>8

Quiet, troll. Back to 4chan with you.

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at 9 Oct 2009: 07:58

>>6

but males do interest you, therefore gay. Relax with your hyper masculine bull crap. This is the internet, and nobody cares how much you want to hit gay guys.

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at 9 Oct 2009: 08:04

>>10

lol so accusatory

probably one of the very big reasons people don't like furries.


And you're right, this IS the internet. Which means I don't really give that much of a damn about some nameless anon calling me gay.

Still, go back to 4chan.

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at 9 Oct 2009: 08:09

>>10

also, selective reading, etc, hurpdurp


anthros do not equate to anything in real life, so therefore, typical retort is now going to be "no u".

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at 9 Oct 2009: 08:16

>>12

other than the fact that you're yanking it to images of highly detailed penises, sure I guess not.

I'm not gonna beat your head against the wall here, if you want to be a closet case that's up to you. 8's advice is pretty sound.

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at 9 Oct 2009: 08:25

>>13

Who said it was the penis I was fapping to?
I said "Scalies." and nothing more.


:V


There's really no point in arguing with you, because people like you seem to be unable to understand that if you don't personally know someone in real life, how can you even begin to dare to accuse them of something that they've so explicitly stated that they're not into? That's the issue here.

Frankly, you need to understand that I'm not into the whole "furry" thing. I don't make it part of my life. It isn't a lifestyle for me, like others seem to make it. I look at the art, and I even make critiques against the art so artists can better themselves in drawing. What I do on the internet has no bearing on anything in life. And honestly, I'm pretty happy with staying with nothing but a female human. Breasts > everything else. Sorry, they win.

So... Yeah. "no u", I guess.

in b4 "lol u got trolld" 'cause I know I did, I just can't keep from arguing with people. It's a bad habit. :V

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at 9 Oct 2009: 08:27

>>14

'scuse me, anything in MY life I mean.

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at 9 Oct 2009: 08:42

>>14

I'm not sure I understand. You stated that you enjoyed /m/ yes? "Scalies" or not, that would obviously involve penises, and in case you haven't looked up the definition of homosexual, (which it seems you really haven't, or are IMMENSELY confused about it) it means being attracted to members of the same sex. Matters of things such as "real life" are merely sophistry and not relevant to the main element here.

also, you are not being trolled, sorry to break that to you as you seem to be obsessed with accusing anyone who has a different approach to things than you as such. But based on your behavior so far it seems you're not really emotionally balanced, so I guess that's not surprising.

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at 9 Oct 2009: 08:53

>>16

I spend most of my time on the /clean/ section, actually. If I do go into one of the adult boards, it's /s/ or /f/. I do go into /m/ on occasion, but I don't spend all my time there or even most of it, as I really don't even find that many scalie pictures that I actually like. I never explicitly stated that I enjoy /m/, either.

But whatever floats your own boat, sir. I am done here, I woke up not that long ago and the last thing I need is some anon trying to think they know myself better than I do.

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at 9 Oct 2009: 09:20

And actually, I'll make one last post, then it's back to Dead Rising. Or sleep, because I'm that bored.


Everyone is different. Plain and simple. People view things differently than others. I just happen to be one of the people who view anthros as nothing more than fantasy, etc. Fantasy is... just that, fantasy. That's why, to me, it has no effect on my life. It's obviously different for other people, as evidenced by the..."discussion", here. But it's a different case for me (and for quite a few others.) I suppose what it comes down to is that it's all opinion, I guess.

As stupid as it sounds to do something like this in this kind of thread, I apologize for coming across as an ass in this thread.
Really.

And actually, because of this thread, I think I might have somewhat of a slight case of bipolar disorder. lol. Yeah, that's just what I need. ):

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at 9 Oct 2009: 10:57

how about this

people can have one sexuality or two if they wish



so if someone says they're straight in real life, they're straight, but they can be something else when it comes to the internet/anthros/whatever




seriously people, you shouldn't hound on people for the decisions they make, it's their choice. you aren't their mother/father or anything, it's not in your jurisdiction to criticize them for it, or basically call them a liar, or anything like that.

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at 9 Oct 2009: 14:18

>>19

2, speaking. And I can say with quite a bit of assuredness, that it was not my choice to be bi when it comes to furries. I'm not "Afraid", it has nothing to do with the mentality that this is fantasy or the internet. All it has to do with is that because they're furry guys I like them.

I only like penises if they're attached to a furry body, plain and simple. I'm not afraid of what people think of me, I have very open and accepting friends, most of which already know I'm bi for furries and are fine with it. I'm not secretly gay, I am repulsed by human males. But not by furry males (Well, to be honest I really can't stand the big, muscular types).

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at 9 Oct 2009: 14:56

>>20

it's different for everyone, really.

but a lot of people seem to not understand that, especially by the--well, for lack of a better term--, harassment in this thread.


just like how other people seem to be unable to discern fantasy from reality (this goes with everything, not just furries. games, books, movies, etc.). tbh you don't have to be gay to look at certain furry art. you don't have to be straight/bi to look at other types of furry art that aren't gay. i mean...really. honestly, people sound stupid when they try to say you have to be a certain sexuality to look at certain art, especially when the art is nothing but fantasy--fake, not real.

that's like saying a guy is gay if they like anal-play.... but the only anal-play they do is with their girlfriend/wife; via strap-on.

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at 9 Oct 2009: 19:50

>>6
"Human males are disgusting to me, and I'd smash any guy who tried to touch me sexually into the ground. I'm not gay, nor will I ever be gay. Nothing personal, it just doesn't interest me."

A tad defensive, aren't we? Who sez a gay guy is gonna show the least bit of interest in you to start with? (Boy, I've never been this trollish before in my life.) Even if a gay guy tried to pick you up, a simple 'sorry, I don't swing that way' would take care of things. Or maybe you're afraid a gay posse is gonna kidnap you and violate you horribly in any number of ways, and you won't be able to do anything about it, it's all against your will, oh nooooooooo... (Whoops, time to change the sheets.)

Personally I don't care for any overly explicit porn, gay or straight, but a guy like Zen (on Fur Affinity) does *gorgeous* non-explicit pin-ups of really cute, twinkly-eyed gay furries that I love. And every now and then a picture like this floats my boat:

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/2891836/

Maybe because the idea of being hypnotized and masturbated by an evil reptile holds a certain appeal for me. (Also he doesn't appear to be ramming his cock up the guy's ass - which doesn't hold any particular appeal for me.)



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at 9 Oct 2009: 21:35

>>22

you seem to think that people aren't allowed to talk from their own experiences. i know people who get defensive like that because that shit has ALREADY happened multiple times. and i'll be honest. saying 'sorry, i don't swing that way', really doesn't work a lot of the time, because if they like you a lot, they'll try their damned hardest to keep trying to change your mind.

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at 10 Oct 2009: 00:32

>>23
They sound like Moonies, or Republicans...

I know lots of gay people and that's never happened to me. (I don't know whether to be relieved or insulted...)

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at 10 Oct 2009: 08:43

>>24

I know a furry who is a Moonie.  It's the saddest thing you ever saw.

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at 10 Oct 2009: 20:39

I like rape fantasy. Does this mean in real life I would like to rape? no, because a fantasy and the reality of a situation are two different things.

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at 10 Oct 2009: 22:00

>>26

rape is a state of action and mind, not a state of being.

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at 12 Oct 2009: 07:13

>>1
I'm the same way, and frankly, it's confusing the hell out of me.
But, I think I've got it figured out, it's really complex, so bear with me.
The human mind is capable of amazing things. Thoughts, emotions, comprehension, and so much more. But what differentiates us from a non-sentient being is our personalities. Personalities shape our thoughts and actions in a way not seen anywhere else. Most humans have the ability and the intellect to handle just one personality. But for some, one personality is simply not enough.
I have many, many, many different personalities based on many different people/social groups that help me balance my lack of a natural personality, social comprehension, and emotion. Usually, I'm very careful about how I manage these, and none of them ever interfere with others. But now I'm beginning to doubt my abilities. I think that one personality may be interfering with another, causing unintended changes in both personalities. Thus, my sexual orientation changes. Since I lack a natural personality, I also lack a natural sexual orientation. Therefore there is no permanent, static sexual orientation. And like all other data, it can change.
In my case, it is most likely interference. I'm not sure about you. The key to getting this right is to think different. "Outside the box", if you will. Let us know when you think you've got it figured out.

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at 12 Oct 2009: 15:06

I like women but in the fur world  i consider myself to be bisexual. In the real world im only heterosexual. I may like gay furry porn but am not actually gay. Nuf said.

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at 13 Oct 2009: 18:14

Fantasy homosexual anthropomorphic characters are portrayed as possessing a different social and cultural background that makes male/male sex approachable without condemnation.

You are saying, "I'm not gay. I'm not attracted to males in real life." However, furry characters present themselves in an alien context, which is not weighted down with all our society's social-sexual baggage, gender protocol, and social proceedures.

In other words, you are sexually attracted to other males given a different set of rules that exist only in fantesyland. That's what furry porn brings to you -- males portrayed as having sex in a supportive alien cultural context, which gives you a release from the burden of how you are expected in our society to behave as a man from the other side of the computer monitor glass. Basically, it's the sexual equivilent of looking at a picture of a steak you can't afford and salivating. I submit that if you could abandon your responsibility to this world without guilt and live on a different world where the social rules were set so that you could engage in scenes that sexually arouse you in male/male furry porn without suffering social reprisal for it -- I'd bet you'd think, "Wow. I only live once." You'd totally go for it.

In other words, ultimately, you are not 100% straight. If you could get away from your own mind and its burdensome self-hating conscience, founded in the way males our raised to behave in our culture, you'd wish, secretly, that a genie would appear and give you the option to vanish to another world at will with a different set of rules to indulge in the way YOU want to have emotional and sexual relations with other guys with no strings attached to how you are affected in this reality. Your sexual attraction to fantasy male anthropomorphic characters portrayed as existing in a supportive alien social context indicates your latent repressed homosexual inclinations.

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at 13 Oct 2009: 23:58

>>30

For you, maybe.

But not everyone thinks along those lines, sorry to say.

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at 14 Oct 2009: 00:50

>>28

Anyone who has owned multiple pets knows that animals have distinct personalities.  All dogs do not behave the same way. All cats do not behave the same way.  The same goes for people.  However, if you truly have several real distinct personalities that is a medical condition and I urge you to see counselling before one of your personalities kills a Walmart greeter.

>>30

This drives me nuts.  I can't stand these self-righteous, facetious pricks who think that because they're out of the closet (or pretend to be on the internets) they have the right to look down on everyone else and proclaim to know your very innermost soul.

Here's the deal: Not everyone who has a thing for cock, balls, or ass is gay or in the closet.  Some (or even many) just get off on it the same way that somebody into bondage gets off on being tied up -- as a fetish.  Does this mean they are "straight"?  Of course not, but "gay vs straight" is a false dichotomy.  For a lot of people into furry, gay furs are that hot fetish they enjoy.  They wouldn't touch a real man with a 10' pole (haha, see my pun skillz!) but those male furs just happen to push their buttons.

So that's the rub: just because you've announced to the world that you're gay (or are pretending to have) doesn't make you enlightened.  You have as much right to tell somebody it's because of their "self-hating conscience" as you do to tell them it's because their mom touched them when they were little.  You don't _know_ them. Stop pretending you do.

Other than that you make a valid point, which is that given freedom from consequence most people would act differently than they do in the real world. This is called fantasy for normal people or a dis-associative mental illness commonly seen in among serial killers.  It stops being reality for normal people after about age 8.

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at 14 Oct 2009: 03:24

test

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at 14 Oct 2009: 05:07

>>30
Hey, guess what. You're wrong.

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random wolf lover at 14 Oct 2009: 18:07

no i agree with >>32 i am in the same boat here. i like watching 2 male furs go at it as much as any other pairing, but i would never hit on a real guy. im just not like that. the fact is, for me at least, its just a fetish thing

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at 14 Oct 2009: 19:41

>>32

Hello. I am NOT a furry -- even though I'm posting on a furry message board on a website hosting thousands of erotic furry images. A furry is someone who dresses up in fursuits and has sex. I'm not like that. And yet, even though I like to plunge my throbbing 12" love-rod into steaming pussy, true story, I just can't get enough of the homosexual imagery of anthropomorphic male fantasy characters sucking dick and fucking each other in the ass. After all, I'm on Fchan for a reason -- the /c/ board and only the /c/ board, if any of you dare to imply otherwise.

Yet there is a problem I don't understand. Why am I completely straight yet attracted to furry males? I know that I am straight, and I insist that I have scored with women to prove this fact, and will not put up with being told that I am a sexually repressed bisexual. The more time and attention to detail any of you spend trying to explain why I am a repressed bisexual is just going to make me respond with hostility because accepting your explanation to the contrary would force me to face reality -- and that would tear down my carefully constructed false identity of who I need to think of myself as.

I am straight. Man I sure do like watching homosexuals fucking -- that is, homosexual furries fucking. Not humans. They're gross. I've los... I mean, never has any attraction to other guys. God, you're all such pricks for telling me that, no matter how much I pretend I am straight, that I am bi and not giving me the attention-whoring ego-boost I need to alleviate my homophobia so I can whack off to fantasy homosexual furry characters 'till morning without questioning my sexuality.

I'm a real straight man that fucks real straight women. Not other guys. I'm not gay. I just have this little fetish problem with homo furry characters fucking each other in the ass. It's just a fetish. Fuck you for projecting your sexualities on me and trying to convert me to sexual perversion. I hate you. I'm going to compare your mentality to that a 8 year-old serial killer. Take that. Now I've won.

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at 14 Oct 2009: 22:02

>>36
I'm really starting to wonder if you're serious or kidding. If you're serious, then everybody is just going to laugh at you, but if you're being sarcastic then here's a word to the wise: Stop. Sarcasm doesn't work on the internet, so stop now before you start a flame war.

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at 14 Oct 2009: 23:31

I think I may be able to shed some light on this. I am the same way and have thought about it long and hard, and came to a conclusion of sorts.

I like women, the idea of having a relationship, kissing, or having sex with another male is not horrifying to me, but I just know I wouldn't like it at all.

It's the character that is attractive in somewhat of a female way. A lot of these characters are drawn with a female physique, but the interesting parts of the male, the exciting unexplored, by us straight males. Most people who feel this way, people who are straight and like /m/ enjoy this, because it is exciting and different. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of characters drawn with a very distinctive male physique, but I would put money on the fact that pretty much everyone like us do not like those images of overly masculine characters. Especially the hyper masculine characters.

As for anal sex, well it just simply feels good, for almost any male that is willing to try. The idea and feeling of giving someone pleasure in that way, playing role reversal.

But. the idea is that your not having sex with a man, you are having sex with a character who is endowed with male parts. In most cases it's difficult to tell the difference between an animals gender, especially from just looking at the head.

For people like us we have come far enough to know we aren't pulling any physiological jumping jacks to make ourselves think were not gay. The simple fact is that were not, bi curious maybe, but nothing further.

on a separate note: for those who think that if a guy wants to have sex with another male, but in no way would ever want to get into a relationship with another male. It just wouldn't make sense to call someone like that gay. If you wouldn't want to date another male, I would just call it.. a fetish I suppose

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at 15 Oct 2009: 02:13

news flash: Being gay doesn't strictly mean you want to have sex with other men, as plenty of gay men do not.

it just means you get turned on by things with cocks. There. Mystery solved.

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at 15 Oct 2009: 11:33

>>37
I thought it was pretty funny...
>>38
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