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at 23 Oct 2009: 10:44

So, let me preface this with a request that we attempt not to let this become a heated debate (good now and then, just not here)

Anyway, I'll start this off by saying that I am naturally heterosexual, though when it comes to *the idea of* anthropomorphs, I am pansexual. That holds true if they were real, but I digress. I know for the most part why I am pansexual when it comes to Anthros, the primary reason being the psychological influences I developed. However I'm here to discuss your ideas, and field my own on why we like what we like.

Two things that I think are interesting enough for discussion. the first is the "Exotic is erotic" principle.

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In this its stated that in childhood stages we will develop physiological arousal to that which is different, and it eventually manifests itself as attraction. I propose that if anthros are introduced into the situation (non-cartoons and clean) then it can lead to another unintended manifestation of attraction. Thoughts?

The second idea I've thought about is how I (myself) have an increased tactile stimuli response (means feeling stuff is more pronounced for me). I also like the idea of fur against my skin, just saying that If I woke up one morning with an anthro on either side of me, I'd be irked but I would not mind it one bit. I get the sense that for some of us its also the sensation we'd like to enjoy of just being able to cuddle an anthro pretty much.

I haven't yet found anything to back up the Tactile response theory but hey you might find something!

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at 23 Oct 2009: 18:53

You first point has been thoroughly discussed and debated many a time on this board, the "My Sexuality" and the "I have a problem" threads are only the most recent. The "I have a problem" thread brings up the "Exotic is erotic" idea check that one out. I don't think I under stand your second point. All I can say for it is; yes fur feels nice.

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n20 at 24 Oct 2009: 07:29

Can't you just cut the crap already? Furry is not a sexuality and you don't have to write an scientific essay on why you jerk of to animal people. Just do it if it makes you happy, there's no need to to open this debate over and over again. Why are you guys just so obsessed with your sexuality? <.<

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at 24 Oct 2009: 22:53

>>3
No one ever said it was a sexuality.
And no, there isn't a need to open this debate, but this is /dis/, remember.

Lastly, the reason for our concern may vary, but for the most part, it is about finding out who we are. It's about being introspective and finding self. You see, the key to true happiness is to be content in who you are. But you must first figure out who you are.
A lot of us are unsure about who we are, and what our sexual orientation is, so we seek assistance from our peers. You see, the furry fandom is one of the most accepting communities there is, therefore asking questions such as these will not get you ridiculed, and you won't be thought of as "lesser" because of it.
Now you could pose such a question anywhere, but it's more likely that you'll be ridiculed, laughed at, or met with a mass of trolls and homophobes. But here people are willing to discuss such matters freely.

>>1
Well, for me, anyway, my attraction to male anthros was merely a manifestation of my natural sexual orientation. I know that's a bit ambiguous, so I'll explain more in-depth.

I'd always considered myself heterosexual. My extended family is openly anti-homosexual, and so is my mom. My mom always told me to be heterosexual, and that being homosexual was "bad". Since she told me that constantly, I'd just accepted it, silencing my subconscious.
But I got to thinking, on one of my introspective analysis sessions, while browsing through my mind for things to re-evaluate, I discovered something odd. It seems that when I fantasized about sex, I'd always pictured myself as the female. I thought about this for a while, searching through the memories within my subconscious mind. Then I realized that whenever I was expected to be attracted to a female, the feeling was always artificial. I was really confused at this point.
I continued to think about these things. Not wanting to accept the fact that I wasn't who I thought I was. On accident, I stumbled into a tangent, and began to ponder the concept of happiness. After much more thought, I figured out how to be truly happy: be content in who you are. I applied this concept to my personal philosophy immediately. And then I went back to my previous thoughts, and picked up where I left off, this time with newfound enlightenment.
After a couple of thoughts, I concluded that I wasn't really heterosexual, and that the reason I'd been so depressed was because of that. I'd been trying to be something I wasn't. So, I decided that I would stop pretending.
And you know what? I was perfectly okay with all of this. I'm okay with my sexual orientation, and I'm okay with being different.

I hypothesize that my homosexuality came to pass due to several factors.
-Lack of a father figure during the entirety of my life.
-As you mentioned the "exotic is erotic" priciple.
You see, I was very different than others of my gender. I never really had any friends because of this. I behaved "oddly" in their eyes, and they did not understand. Nor did I understand them. They were different. It intrigued me, but I was young, and my mind had not fully developed. I did not yet comprehend such matters in their entirety.
During puberty those feelings began manifesting themselves, though I did not want to accept it. My conscious mind was fully separate from my subconscious. Only now do I posses the mental capacity to delve into the depths of my subconscious, only to discover that my feelings were misplaced.
Now, I simply accept this as something I cannot change. I am completely content with it, and would not change it if I could. It's just who I am, and I've got no reason to be ashamed of it.

As for the tactile response, this could be a manifestation of a minor psychological disorder. Were you picked up/held frequently during your early years? If not, you may be expressing some anxiety in the form of increased tactile sensitivity.
But yes, fur would feel very nice.

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at 25 Oct 2009: 02:59

>>4
Thanks I appreciate the note, yes this is not a discussion specifically on sexuality. Just an exploration of who we are.

Also (>>3) I don't come here, fap, then leave. there is a /c/ board for a reason mate.

I'm actually not sure about the being picked up held thing... Its possible that I wasn't. I mean, I have a couple other oddities (though who doesn't) so I couldn't say for sure if is this. Something else could have improperly associated itself with tactile sensitivity as well so that's another theory. Anyway, I think of the feeling of having fur is something pleasant that I'd enjoy. Just being able to run my hand across my arm and feel all the hairs move over and back again, I think about it now and then, it'd be really awesome for me.

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at 30 Oct 2009: 02:21

>>3


Because a lot of us aren't getting any and its making us go weird.

An example being the guy who wants to fuck his car.

>>4

I Hear ya

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at 31 Oct 2009: 19:59

Finding out who you are is not going to be solved by spanking the noodle at pics of animal people, nor will it be solved by looking at pictures of product mascots.  Anyone who "finds themselves" by fascinating over the Airwick bunny needs to get kicked in the marble sack.  Hard.

"Furry" is referred to as a sexuality now because there are a lot of sexually-confused individuals (mostly teens and college students) entering the fandom.  And unfortunately, because of the fandom's "tolerance" to everything, no matter how perverse, it has now attracted the sorts of people who are on the soon-to-be-arrested-list for such gems as pedophilia, bestiality, and god knows what else.

As far as I'm concerned, "furry" can have it's little niche of the market.  I suppose those that just think funny animals, or even alien creatures in sci-fi stories, are just fun or imaginative should probably break off from the "furry" bit and refer to themselves as fans of anthropomorphics.  Funny animals, and even cartoons featuring funny animals, are not to be used as a means to define oneself or help mold one's sexuality.  That is absolutely absurd, and if I could, I'd probably reach through this monitor and smack whatever moron came up with that idea.

People who watch Bugs Bunny or Sonic the Motherfucking Hedgehog and imagine grinding pelvises with the characters need serious psycological help, because that is NOT normal.  It is most likely caused by a sense of low self-esteem, a lack of social skills or social networking, a lack of sex (because we all know how horny one gets when they enter their teen years.  If you can't get laid, you turn your attention to ANYTHING that looks like it might be inviting), and more often than not, a decent amount of harassment at school. 

So you're lonely, ugly and get picked on.  What are you to do?  I know!  I bet Sally Acorn would fall madly in love with you (Or Tails, if you happen to swing that way).  But there's a problem, see.  They're not real.  So this constant desire is inevitably denied, because you cannot have what does not exist.  What to do, what to do?

You could waste away the best years of your life playing a make-believe game on the internet, where everyone is a furry creature, and all the guys are hung like horses and built like the Hulk.  All the girls (who are also played by guys) have hourglass figures, huge tits, an insatiable sex drive (just like real women!  oh, wait, no), and the desire to screw you through texting or computer graphics.  This is not sex.  Sex is much better than that.  Take my word for it.

So you can watch your health deteriorate over time as you become more enamored with this "second life", or your desire can get warped and twisted.  Suddenly you start looking at animals or kids in the wrong way.  See where this is going?  Your confusion is caused by a desire for something you can never have, and it has blinded you to reality.  Your moral parameters start getting stretched, and suddenly, things that were once considered taboo are starting to look pretty good.

Stop living in pretend-land and start living your life while it still exists.  You don't want to be a 60-year-old virgin who gets busted for assaulting a dog because you just loved Huckleberry Hound so goddamned much, nobody has to know, right?

Anthropomorphics, and its horribly deformed mutant offspring "Furry", is nothing more than aninterest or a hobby.  Those who treat it otherwise are only fooling themselves.

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klokwrkblu at 1 Nov 2009: 01:16

At least somebody has got there head screwed on right.

Although its a bit hard to live life when its going nowhere.

But you just explained it.


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at 1 Nov 2009: 01:22

Oh, why thank you Dr. >>7

Furry is a fantasy.  What people get from it doesn't matter and doesn't mean they "need serious psychological help".  As long as it doesn't interfere with the ability to lead a more or less normal life it just doesn't matter.  People who have _real_ problems with pedophilia or bestiality would still have those issues regardless of their interest in furry art.

You're over-analyzing it.

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at 1 Nov 2009: 02:38

>>9

When people would rather live a life of make-believe, where they can have all the things they can't get in real life, instead of trying to improve their REAL life, well, then it's most certainly a pfychological issue.  They are using fantasy to escape the harshness of reality.  Rather than man up and deal with the crap life throws at them, they retreat into a safe little haven of snuggly falseness and disillusion.  Just like what they probably do in real life.  Rather than face up to the bully picking on them at school, they retreat and skitter away, but then talk about how they're going to crush the bully to their online furry pals.  And, of course, they never do.  Because real life requires real risk.  And these kinds of people aren't willing to take real risks.

You are correct that furry is a fantasy.  The danger lies in the fact that too many of its members rely on it as their sole means of interaction with other people, most whom are just as socially stunted as they are.  Sooner or later, they will have to step back from their pretend world and realize just how their inaction in real lis not doing them any favors.

There are people who have very real problems with certain fetishes; this, I can agree with.  But there are also those who may have difficulty in dealing with their carnal cravings.  The problem with focusing on a furry character as a love interest (besides the obvious) is that it's a lot like dangling a juicy hamburger in front of a starving man.  He sees it, he wants it, but he can never have it, unless he abandons his sense of decency and ethics and kills the person dangling the food.  Someone with a craving for a furry companion may have a desire to feel the warmth of their partner's body, feel the fur against their skin, maybe even take in the different scents.  But they can't experience this with a picture on a monitor.

So maybe they get a pet.  Maybe they already had one, but now ol' Rex is starting to look kinda sexy.  And hey, what better way to find out about how a real dog's dick tastes?  So this desperate individual crosses the line.  The next thing you know, they're justifying their disgusting habits to all the naysayers online, saying it's a loving relationship, and completely consentual.  I've seen pedos and zoo freaks argue that shit before.  But they weren't born that way.  They were steered that way, and at a particular fork in the road, they decided to cross the line to attain their desire, no matter how warped it was, instead of growing a set and dealing with some very real issues in their actual life.

>>8

If you feel your life is going nowhere, then do something to change it.  Nothing is carved in stone about your life.  Every day, you are given opportunities to change things.  But many people fear stepping outside of their comfort zone, and so their life continues on, unchanged.

You are the ultimate author of your fate.  You can either write the story, or have it written for you.  The choice is yours.  But don't waste it, cuz you only get one life.

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at 1 Nov 2009: 04:31

ITT: Random anon frequents a furry porn site to tell people that they're wasting their lives with furry.

Um, OK.

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at 1 Nov 2009: 20:46

>>11

No, they're wasting their lives when furry becomes all they think about.  When a person only has internet friends, whome they only know by their fursona name, and have little contact with the real world, there's a serious problem going on.  Oftentimes, these individuals cannot hold a job or a real-life relationship because they lack the experience of having to deal with real people face-to-face.  The fact that they retreat to their fantasy life at every opportunity indicates they've taken a fairly harmless niche interest and turned it into a lifestyle.  Anyone who does that most certainly has serious underlying issues.  And that includes those who seek to define themselves by admitting how much they just love dog cock.

I'm just here to enlighten you, my son.  Because it appears there are many who need that enlightenment.  And a nice dose of reality.  Bon appetit!

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at 2 Nov 2009: 00:38

>>12

Of course the default behaviour would be to flame this poster, pointing his own mistakes (why he's here, presumably rambling about furries, zomg fursecution). But a serious advice: Listen to that person. Most people around here simply HAVE TO reduce the influence thi stuff has on their lives massively.

I'd like to add one point myself: Infantilism. Real life is complicated an challenging, especially if you just grew up. Suddenly you have to pay bills, looking for an insurance, rent a place, get a job to make a living, deal with problems you never faced in your childhood. For many of those already socially akward people it's a tempting thought to just curl together with three other sacred "nerds" and imitate animal noises. In this cuddly world there is no serious stuff going on and by pretending to be somewhat like an animal they take away all the responsibillities they have as a person for themselves and for others.

But you have to leave this haven you created, otherwise you'll just end up as a fat, ugly mid-40 sitting in his own filth frequently molesting his three cats. A bit extreme, but you get the image - break the circle as long as you still can.

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at 2 Nov 2009: 09:35

Hah, wow. OP here, just like to say that that went downhill fast. I tl:dr a lot of the stuff written... cause I felt like it. Anyway, Its worth noting that I just felt like discussing some random thing to see what people thought. I never said that I 'Identify only as this' wow that's bull. Also I think I read something about super internet friends, nope didn't bother with Flufferz McFerret, or his ilk.


Just remember, jumping to conclusions is bad for your health if you do it wrong. What you need is a "Jump to Conclusions" mat to practice on. It's a mat that you put on the floor, and it has different conclusions written on it that you can 'jump to'.

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at 3 Nov 2009: 00:11

>>14

Because people didn't write what you had in mind this "went downhill fast"? I like furry discussions XD

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h0td0g at 3 Nov 2009: 00:18

>>14

Sorry to hear about the tl;dr moment, but I think perhaps you, of all people in this thread, may want to read those words.  Unless you don't like hearing the truth.

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at 6 Nov 2009: 09:31

oh my god. I like Dicks. And I'm a guy. WTeff.

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at 7 Nov 2009: 06:02

Well dose sexual orientation really apply with furry stuff? In regards to the fandom there is really nothing gendered, when your looking at furry porn your getting sexual stimulation from a piece of paper, which is neither female or male. Your only dealing with ink on paper or pixels on a computer screen, the gender of the furrys is all in your head. So dose furry art really correspond to sexual orientation the way an attraction to a real person would?

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at 8 Nov 2009: 03:54

>>18
Long answer: Only the higher portions of the brain differentiate "real" from "unreal". The more basic functions -- sexual attraction for example -- react the same regardless of whether the stimulus is real or imagined. Outside of your higher functions, the brain is completely unable to tell the difference between the two.

Short answer: Yes.

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2 cents at 9 Nov 2009: 05:46

>>11

Waisting lives with the fandom?

I think its a little more sinister than that.

Theres a lot of people i know whos lives are going nowhere. Its not because there lazy, but because they just cant. 

Nobody socializes yet aloan screw, no wonder people are so neurotic.

So my guess is that they seek things like furry to fill in that empty void in there lives, and from the way i see it, it really makes me sick.

This is what our lives are, but not what its supposed to be.

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at 24 Mar 2010: 22:51

'sniff,sniff'
OMG I SMELL INTELLIGENCE

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Anonymouse at 24 Mar 2010: 23:39

>>21
'sniff,sniff'
OMG I SMELL A DUMB ASS WHO BUMPED A 5 MONTH OLD DEAD THREAD TO SAY ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL! the intelligence you smell is not coming form you post. Lean to sage.

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at 25 Mar 2010: 01:45

>>22

So wheres is it coming from, your ass?

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