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Furry = Pedophilia and Bestiality

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at 28 Jun 2010: 15:57

Accurate or no?
Discuss!

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at 28 Jun 2010: 17:26

Furry is an animal transformation fetish. Whether or not it is bestiality depends on if the person indulging in this fetish is fantasizing about having sex LIKE an animal or WITH an animal. Calling someone "an animal in bed", is just a complimentary metaphor for their sexual prowess -- on the other hand, being WITH an animal in bed is something entirely different.

Agree with it or not, many human beings sexualize animal language. Sexuality is closely associated with the base instincts, carnality, and impulses -- thus sexual behavior is closely associated with the animalistic nature of human beings. Jocks and military men howl like dogs at attractive young women. Playboy models dress up in bunny or leather cat costumes. A good portion of ticket sales for the movie "Batman Returns" was the sex appeal of Catwoman.

Some people dress up to express their carnal instincts. We've all seen the naughty nurse costumes. The nasty housemaid roleplay. Since sexuality and sexual desire is strongly associated with animal instinct, it was inevitable that someone would dress up in an animal skin and roleplay a horny beast.

In fact, human beings roleplaying the horny virile sexual beast was probably the first form of sexual roleplay. For thousands of years, humanity as made fertility gods out of animal idols and attributing virility to some strong beast. War gods, often anthropomorphic (such as Ares the RAM) may have been seen as potent for their animal attributes. Sports mascots accompanying teams of athlete warriors onto the battlefield of the stadium are the watered-down symbology of ancient shamanism and power animals flown on the flags of conquering armies of old.

Even the Bible is guilty of anthropomorphizing sexuality: "Ezekiel 23:20 ~~ For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses." http://bible.cc/ezekiel/23-20.htm This passage of scripture is not referring to bestiality (sex with a literal animal), but rather this verse of scripture refers to sex with BEASTLIKE MEN of incredible virility by comparing their sexual drives and abilities to those of large animals. Of course, lest I be taken out of context, as most people are when they quote scripture, yes, this passage of scripture is condemnatory of the sexual behavior in question -- even though it is with sex with another human being. See, the book of Ezekiel is a codex for the ancient Jews to live by and condemns the act of Israeli females sleeping with males outside of the tribe. Note how Ezekiel 23:20 demonizes the men of Gentile tribes by condemning their monstrous-sized genitalia? That's funny; what an unique way of unintentionally depreciating one's own tribe, by proxy.

So, to wrap this all up, an animal transformation fetish in not necessarily bestiality, though it can be, if the fetishist in question lusts after actual literal non-sapient animals. A fetish of anthropomorphic beast/human creatures with human-like body structures as their base essentially capitalize on the "virile/fertile beast-human" concept. With sexualized children's cartoons, plushophilia, vore, adult baby, cub porn, feral artwork and the like mixed into the animal transformation fetish extends outward into darker sexual territory. So the animal transformation fetish acts as a sort of train station to all the other fetishes because human sexuality is so closely associated with animal instinct. That is why it is soooooo easy to anthropomorphize all these sexual kinks and attach them to the fandom -- it's all "bestial behavior".

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at 28 Jun 2010: 23:04

>>2

If this is the best response furries can come up with to the title's accusation they deserve the reputation they have.

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at 28 Jun 2010: 23:27

>>2

You win everything forever.

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at 28 Jun 2010: 23:59

Pedophilia and bestiality are ultimately about seeking sexual pleasure in a being that is mentally and physically weaker. They are rape, but because an animal cannot say no and a child can be coerced, the cowards who commit these crimes often believe that the animal or child consents.

Furry characters are not weaker - they are portrayed with the same intelligence as an adult human, and often even greater physical strength. Most furry porn lacks the themes of control, inequality, submission, and rape that are central to the reality of pedophilia and bestiality. So no, they are different.

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at 29 Jun 2010: 10:36

>>5

But isn't it true that most of you want pedophilia and bestiality to be a part of your fandom?

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Sen at 29 Jun 2010: 10:52

>>6
Sure smells like Fox News in here.

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at 29 Jun 2010: 11:07

>>6

It is more accurate to say, "A small percentage of highly vocal and extremely annoying members of the furry fandom, also known as parasites, get the greatest percentage of media coverage and are what are seen by the majority of non-members as a representative population."
That small portion is much less mature than the larger portion. They are the ones who you, and others, tend to remember.

For example, if you have ever been on an international, or cross country, flight. You do not remember the average looking, quiet, mild mannered people sitting three rows around you. Instead, you remember the child on the other end of the plane who screamed the entire trip.

The fault of the fandom is in tolerating these people. Instead of standing up and fighting them as they should, low self esteem, personal value, self worth, lack of confidence and conviction, and of course, fear of being the next target keeps them quiet. The side effect is a fandom with a small percentage of insane pedophiles and beastialists are seen as a a representative cross section of a greater portion of average people, and are rarely opposed by an even smaller segment of leaders.

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at 29 Jun 2010: 11:27

One of the more recent (and more professional) sociology surveys of the furry fandom- http://www.furrysociology.net/report.htm

Found that only two years ago, 16% of us identified as zoophiles. That is almost one in five- not exactly a small percentage. This is up from the 2001 survey by Rust that found 2%. It is reasonable to assume that one out of every six furries you meet want to have sex with animals.

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at 29 Jun 2010: 11:42

>>8

The leadership and pedophile segments overlap now, did you know? The guys who launched inkbunny are the same ones who published the softpaw mag.

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at 29 Jun 2010: 11:53

>>9

16% of 276 participants is not enough to form any relevant data.

>>10

Inkbunny is a website, just as any other website. It grants no power, leadership, or authority, and garners no respect just by existing.

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at 29 Jun 2010: 23:21

>>8
bulls eye,
that's why you see furrys in the media portrayed as some super alien,perverted,freaky,sexual deviant,ect,ect group of people.
The most recent example that i can recall is an old rerun of a CSI episode (don't care to remember the title of the episode) every cliche that you can think of was used.

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at 30 Jun 2010: 00:33

>>10

People who run and maintain the furry websites have a degree of control over what content is encouraged, and what is discouraged. They in effect have the ability to say, in a very subtle way, what is included in the meaning of the term "furry."

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at 30 Jun 2010: 08:49

>>9
My university newspaper conducted a survey about sexual kinks. It concluded that the majority of the student population were into BDSM!!! This is obviously not true. The only students who took the time to answer the survey were students with an interest in the subject and at least one box to check off.

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at 30 Jun 2010: 11:10

>>14
Perfect example of selection bias. That's why you don't say "Take this test about sexual kinks!" you say "Take this test!" and don't say anything else.

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at 30 Jun 2010: 11:44

>>9

That survey wasn't just about fetishes. In fact, zoophilia was the only one mentioned on it- click the link and read it.

>>11
We're not talking about the population of the country, only the furry fandom. 276 people is quite a good number.

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at 30 Jun 2010: 14:33

>>16

We're not talking about the population of the country, only the furry fandom. 276 people is quite a good number.

True, but the number is low enough that I would be very hesitant to take the results to heart. The furry fandom is more then 276 people

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at 30 Jun 2010: 15:26

>>17

That's why it was called a sociological survey, and not a sociological census.

I don't mean to be rude but it's really annoying how furries try to do all these mental gymnastics to avoid confronting the fact that their fandom really does have a lot of darkness in it.

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Name_Name_Name_Name_Name at 30 Jun 2010: 15:54

There's nothing wrong with having sex with animals as long as you're not hurting them. Every culture on Earth used to do it before the major religions outlawed everything that's fun. The Romans used to fuck dogs on the city streets and they ruled the civilized world for 500 years. The Greeks did it, the Egyptians did it, the Chinese probably did it even though they had small dicks. Everyone did it and we turned out fine. Now excuse me, I'm going to go fuck my pet ferret. He loves the cock.

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at 30 Jun 2010: 18:15

>>19

Here is a statement where it is difficult to perceive the intention of the poster.

Quite wrong on all counts, by the way, -- if you are being literal. I can only hope that you are making parody of this thread, rather than actually championing bestiality.

This is the furry fandom, after all, and 15%-17% of us want to fuck animals -- according to the surveys. It is hard to tell those who are joking from the sick fucks that are not.

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ナディア at 30 Jun 2010: 19:14

276 is a dismal number. Deal with it. Topic ends now.

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